Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) honored By US Supreme Court

[The Irish Ram]

Not one. Not even as late as 705 A.D. Sorry.

 

[The Irish Ram]

There was no Mecca for Mohammad to grow up in let alone a thriving metropolis. No one else on the earth even mentioned this great city. There was just sand. Mohammad and a bunch of sand. That's all.
If it was as the Koran says it was, someone other than a Muslim would have seen it. Archeologist would be finding artifacts to substantiate it.

Do you know that there has not been one case of archeologists ever finding anything that disproved a Biblical account? Not one.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

There was no Mecca for Mohammad to grow up in let alone a thriving metropolis. No one else on the earth even mentioned this great city. There was just sand. Mohammad and a bunch of sand. That's all.
If it was as the Koran says it was, someone other than a Muslim would have seen it. Archeologist would be finding artifacts to substantiate it.

Do you know that there has not been one case of archeologists ever finding anything that disproved a Biblical account? Not one.

There was just sand and Muhamamd? Hahahahaha . I love you Irish so funny

 

[there4eyeM]

Again, belief is choice.

One cannot choose belief for another.

If God were great, God could handle God's problems. God would not need AK-47s.

 

[Avatar4321]

There was no Mecca for Mohammad to grow up in let alone a thriving metropolis. No one else on the earth even mentioned this great city. There was just sand. Mohammad and a bunch of sand. That's all.
If it was as the Koran says it was, someone other than a Muslim would have seen it. Archeologist would be finding artifacts to substantiate it.

Do you know that there has not been one case of archeologists ever finding anything that disproved a Biblical account? Not one.

Not to throw water on this conversation, but looking at archaelogy isnt exact the best argument in the world. Archaelogists have to guess a lot. It's not an exact science like chemistry or physics.

An an argument from silence isn't the best argument either. Archaelogy hasnt found evidence for the Resurrection, does that mean we should just throw out the idea?

It's not wise to base one's faith on archaelogy. Faith needs a firmer foundation than that. Probably why we are told to put our faith in Christ.

 

[Avatar4321]

Again, belief is choice.

One cannot choose belief for another.

If God were great, God could handle God's problems. God would not need AK-47s.

Im pretty sure He does handle His problems.

And no, one cant choose belief for another. But we can discuss, debate, and try to persuade someone that one way is better than another.

If I am wrong about something, I want to know and to be convinced about it. I, in fact, do change positions on something when I see alternative view points from time to time and those viewpoints are persuasive.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No there was a Mecca at his time

Yes, and the Kaaba already was there, holding many idols, including the Phallic Stone. But the warlord ordered the idols destroyed, except for one idol - that idol which you and all Muslims bow to 5 times a day, the Phallic (or black) Stone.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Literally almost all of these verse are made up. They aren't in the Koran at all.

Ah, liars for Allah, you are so absurd.

Of course all of them are in the Koran. Some are out of context, but all are there.

Each one can be referenced by the book and verse supplied.

The Koran

 

[Uncensored2008]

Exodus clearty says it. Christians used to stone women to death who weren't virgins at their marital bed

False, liar for Allah.

Levitical law pertains to Jews, not Christians. Women were never stoned to death.

 

[Hollie]

Literally almost all of these verse are made up. They aren't in the Koran at all.

Ah, liars for Allah, you are so absurd.

Of course all of them are in the Koran. Some are out of context, but all are there.

Each one can be referenced by the book and verse supplied.

The Koran

I agree that some of the posted verses may be out of context but they do "speak" to an identifiable revulsion for the infidel. We need to be honest and acknowledge that Islam is based on the koran AND the Sunnah, not exclusively on one or the other. Therefore, in the study of Islamist history, specifically as it applies to the treatment of the hated non-Muslim, we must use a broad approach. In fact, anyone with an understanding of Islam can clearly make the case that any evaluation of Islam WITHOUT including the Sunnah would be incomplete.

We are certainly NOT left with such a narrow definition of Islam as the Koran in isolation. We have the ahadith, and the biographies of Muhammad (swish). We also have 1400 years of Islamic commentary, theology, law, history and behavior to consider as well.

When we examine ideologies, it is important not to limit the examination to literature and manuals. Ideologies do not exist in a vacuum, but instead in the context of their culture, time, place and their relationships with competing ideologies. Furthermore, ideologies have implications in action that serve to clarify both their foundational literature, and resulting theology. I thing its pretty clear that in the context of islamist history, the verses do depict an overall accurate description of how the infidel is viewed in Islam.

 

[there4eyeM]

If God were as great as God's adherents claim, they would know God does not need nor desire their puny efforts. How is it that this is not apparent to said believers?

 

[Avatar4321]

If God were as great as God's adherents claim, they would know God does not need nor desire their puny efforts. How is it that this is not apparent to said believers?

God does not ask us to do things for His sake, but for our own sake.

 

[there4eyeM]

If God were as great as God's adherents claim, they would know God does not need nor desire their puny efforts. How is it that this is not apparent to said believers?

God does not ask us to do things for His sake, but for our own sake.

So, we can be certain that what is done by man to enforce beliefs does not come from God.

 

[logical4u]

You can't be religious and have pre martial sex at the same time. You're lying to your soul and trying to fool God. And now all those verses you took out of context out them in their original chapters you coward.

I have a better idea, why don't you quote all of the commands in the New Testament that tell us what to do with those that commit unmarried sex.

Exodus clearty says it. Christians used to stone women to death who weren't virgins at their marital bed

You are confusing Israelite and Christians.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

I have a better idea, why don't you quote all of the commands in the New Testament that tell us what to do with those that commit unmarried sex.

Exodus clearty says it. Christians used to stone women to death who weren't virgins at their marital bed

You are confusing Israelite and Christians.

No Christians after that followed that practice

 

[BecauseIKnow]

If God were as great as God's adherents claim, they would know God does not need nor desire their puny efforts. How is it that this is not apparent to said believers?

Because they are lunatic Christians who think they are right and everybody else is wrong. That's why so many Christians become atheists it's because their people are shitty people who disrespect everyone else's belief. The cowards on the Internet.

 

[logical4u]

If God were as great as God's adherents claim, they would know God does not need nor desire their puny efforts. How is it that this is not apparent to said believers?

Because they are lunatic Christians who think they are right and everybody else is wrong. That's why so many Christians become atheists it's because their people are shitty people who disrespect everyone else's belief. The cowards on the Internet.

Another reason why you cannot have a civil discussion with muslims: they make statements that contradict the statement they just made. They offer no evidence or proof there statements have any factual basis. They call names.

It would be wonderful to find muslims that would actually discuss islamic "discrepencies" with a scrap of integrity. All muslims will start out with how great their faith is, as long as they are asked no questions, they will remain pleasant. Once questioned about things that need some serious explanation that muslims do, they retreat, they get arrogant, they call names, they lie, they deny recorded events, they shut down, and then they will immediately return to the calm, pleasant person and tell you that islam is a religion of "peace".

 

[logical4u]

Exodus clearty says it. Christians used to stone women to death who weren't virgins at their marital bed

You are confusing Israelite and Christians.

No Christians after that followed that practice

?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

If God were as great as God's adherents claim, they would know God does not need nor desire their puny efforts. How is it that this is not apparent to said believers?

Because they are lunatic Christians who think they are right and everybody else is wrong. That's why so many Christians become atheists it's because their people are shitty people who disrespect everyone else's belief. The cowards on the Internet.

Another reason why you cannot have a civil discussion with muslims: they make statements that contradict the statement they just made. They offer no evidence or proof there statements have any factual basis. They call names.

It would be wonderful to find muslims that would actually discuss islamic "discrepencies" with a scrap of integrity. All muslims will start out with how great their faith is, as long as they are asked no questions, they will remain pleasant. Once questioned about things that need some serious explanation that muslims do, they retreat, they get arrogant, they call names, they lie, they deny recorded events, they shut down, and then they will immediately return to the calm, pleasant person and tell you that islam is a religion of "peace".

No you hate Muslims and Islam. I'm not having a discussion with cheap junky people like you. Do you go to terry jones church or something? You are the junkiest Christians I've seen. Christians in person are normal people who don't have a double standard against Muslims

 

[there4eyeM]

If one does not believe in God, there is no question of conflict of faith. If one believes in God, one must know that God is too powerful to be dependent on a mere creation. It would be blasphemy to say that God required assistance from something lesser.