Zone1 Proof Judeo-Christian Bible Written by Inspiration of God

[ding]

Just admit that any Gid inspiration in made up and be done with your charade.

You're as bad as the OP. Just the other side of the coin is all. Tell me again how religion is highly detrimental to society and how you would violate first amendment rights and ban religion like the communist regimes of the 20th century.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It's a little more complicated than people make it out to be. For instance, when was it that the Torah became known as "the word of God?" What was it before that? When, where and why were the first eleven chapters of Genesis "written?" Was Abraham, Isaac and Jacob known before the time of Moses?

Because these are the relevant question that should be considered to answer the question the OP is asking. You can't use what was written to answer this question. That's like calibrating climate models using 20th century data to model the 20th century climate.

So, I'm sorry I can't give you a yes or no answer to your question. Because like I said, it's not how I would have gone about it.

Thanks anyway.

 

[DukeU]

Just admit that any Gid inspiration in made up and be done with your charade.

OK.

Gid inspiration is made up.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Proves my point.

Those Bibles are revised.........watered down.

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

DukeU:

Your point is mute in light of the fact the other Bibles could not have discovered that 16 verses in the King James Version were fabricated had they used the KJV as a template.

BTW: Most modern Bibles were translated by Trinitarians and contain, in a few places, language that is meant to promote the Trinity doctrine. However, when one pays attention to context (surrounding words, verses, and chapters), those attempts at inserting the Trinity into scripture can be overcome.

 

[Alter2Ego]

It is only your opinion.

So you claim, John Edgar Slow Horses, while you failed to overcome the scriptural evidence in my OP.

 

[DukeU]

DukeU:

Your point is mute in light of the fact the other Bibles could not have discovered that 16 verses in the King James Version were fabricated had they used the KJV as a template.

BTW: Most modern Bibles were translated by Trinitarians and contain, in a few places, language that is meant to promote the Trinity doctrine. However, when one pays attention to context (surrounding words, verses, and chapters), those attempts at inserting the Trinity into scripture can be overcome.

Not trying to be ugly, I'm really not.

But, you're not going to sell me on a revised and watered down version of the Bible.


Revision is fabrication.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You're as bad as the OP. Just the other side of the coin is all. Tell me again how religion is highly detrimental to society and how you would violate first amendment rights and ban religion like the communist regimes of the 20th century.

Get off your kick of me banning religion because you have nothing else.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

OK.

Gid inspiration is made up.

Thank you.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Just admit that any Gid inspiration in made up and be done with your charade.

Who inspired Moses to tell us about dimensions, when no one had ever heard of dimensions?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Who inspired Moses to tell us about dimensions, when no one had ever heard of dimensions?

Link?

 

[BreezeWood]

Who inspired Moses to tell us about dimensions, when no one had ever heard of dimensions?

there is nothing hidden by the heavens, moses was a liar and murderer disguised by a self promoting book is nothing new.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Link?

Link to what, Moses or dimensions? We know Jesus was in the 4th dimension when He would appear and disappear.

 

[ding]

Get off your kick of me banning religion because you have nothing else.

It's all I need. It says it all.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Paradoxical#1:

How is the Bible to blame for people's disobedience? There are no scriptures in the Bible that support the dogma of a 3-in-1 god aka Christendom's Trinity. Jehovah God gave people free will, and that's what some of them chose to do with it. They dreamed up false doctrines not supported by scripture.

I gave you three examples of so-called Trinitarian verses earlier in this thread (John 1:1, John 10:30, and John 20:27-28) and asked if you wanted me to show you the context. You didn't accept my invitation. Instead, you began attacking my OP.

When I showed ding and a couple other Trinitarians the scriptures that provide context to their cherry-picked verses, thereby contradicting their Trinitarian claims, they were not interested. ding gave me a verse of scripture with fabricated words that doesn't belong in the Bible. Those words don't appear in any Bible translation, except for the King James Version, because they are fabrications. When I provided ding with that information, along with the weblink to the source that confirms this, ding told me, in so many words, that he/she does not care.

When I asked the Trinitarians viewpoint questions to draw them out, they refused to answer the questions. They don't want to be corrected by scripture. So I banished them to my Ignore List to save me the effort of scrolling past their tripe.

2 Timothy 3:16​

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,

Look, Alter2Ego, I don't believe for one second that the bible is the word of any god but rather the words of cagey humans decades and even centuries later who were seeking power and acclaim and the riches that go along with it. For the record, I come from an extremely large Catholic family and was taught by nuns. I was an altar boy and devout Catholic. I converted in my twenties and spent my time learning about how easy it is to indoctrinate people. Almost always believers are made when they are young and impressionable and is why religion chooses you depending on what family you are born into and where you live. Only in very rare circumstances does a person choose their religion. I debated Christians for two decades and when I say this, I get the hand wavers saying "I was an atheist and so was my family until I found the truth of Mormonism or Baptist or Catholicism or fill in the blank.

I don't like debating scripture because it all BS and anyone can find a countermanding scripture to one being debated if they try hard enough and lie that the one they claim overrides the one you are citing and there is no contradiction. The mental gymnastics one has to go through to defend scripture borders on insanity. As you say, the King James version distorted scripture to create its own brand. But King James is not alone. So do all versions and then people have the nerve to insist that the version they go by is the truth and god inspired.

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi and never did say he was "God". He said (allegedly) "I and the father are one" and IF he said that it could mean he aligns with the God of the Old Testament but even here we have no record or proof of what Jesus ever said. Some believed he was the savior that so many humans yearned for. Some allegedly "saw' him after he died and yet there is no writings outside of the bible that say this. Many people insisted they saw Elvis after he died too, proving that someone who was a compelling orator or personality will be so missed that people think they saw him after he departed.

Jesus was considered A son of "God" and not THE god. This was a problem for those wanting to invent a religion. The way they did that was to collude with Constantine and invent the Trinity. You know this.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You're as bad as the OP. Just the other side of the coin is all. Tell me again how religion is highly detrimental to society and how you would violate first amendment rights and ban religion like the communist regimes of the 20th century.

I will no longer respond to your juvenile antics of "you would violate first amendment rights and ban religion like the communist regimes of the 20th century." I can see why another poster said she iggied you. You are an annoying individual.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Who inspired Moses to tell us about dimensions, when no one had ever heard of dimensions?

Link to what, Moses or dimensions? We know Jesus was in the 4th dimension when He would appear and disappear.

We "know" nothing of the sort that Jesus was in some fourth dimension. We also don't know who wrote the OT or when. Moses is credited but today's scholars say these texts were written over centuries by multiple authors and scribes. As for the bible showing precise measurements or "dimensions" these are believed to be much later additions and the Egyptians were skilled in construction and measurements long before Moses.

This is why and how people are indoctrinated. Someone asserts what you did because their elders came up with that nonsense to make it appear that only "God" could know exact measurements of a building and yet "Moses" did and didn't give the rest of the story as I did.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So you claim, John Edgar Slow Horses, while you failed to overcome the scriptural evidence in my OP.

You allegations are only allegations.

 

[ding]

I will no longer respond to your juvenile antics of "you would violate first amendment rights and ban religion like the communist regimes of the 20th century." I can see why another poster said she iggied you. You are an annoying individual.

I'm not the one who wants to violate first amendment rights. That's you.

 

[ding]

Why not believe what Moses and all the prophets reported? They received their inspiration from otherworldly beings.

Otherworldly or supernatural?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We have the right to religiously believe what we want or not to believe at all.

We do not have the right to nag our neighbor about it if unwanted.