Zone1 Proof Judeo-Christian Bible Written by Inspiration of God

[Grumblenuts]

Who cares if they're not all circular in shape, Gumblenuts?

You did, flatly stating as a fact that they were and you're still welcome. Don't blame the messenger.

 

[BreezeWood]

The focus of this thread is that there is proof the Judeo-Christian Bible was inspired by Almighty God Jehovah.

and ego - no one knows what was even on the tablets mysteriously found in all three desert bibles - how can that be and what about those moses prevented from seeing what he was accusing them of as a crime.

ego - what is your consideration for those people the fanatic moses accused of committing a crime against the heavens without letting them see the etched tablets claimed from the heavens to know what the crime was they supposedly commuted.

have you an explanation why the tablets were destroyed by moses ... a most selfish act of all time commiserate with the desert religions and their history for the persecution and victimization of the innocent. is that what those tablets were meant for.

 

[Grumblenuts]

have you an explanation why the tablets were destroyed by moses

Good question.
Google AI offers:

Moses broke the first set of the Ten Commandments tablets because he was enraged by the Israelites' idolatry, specifically their worship of the Golden Calf.

Etc.
Basically, he flipped out. "God" sympathized and provided replacements since the originals were still under warranty.

 

[BreezeWood]

Etc.
Basically, he flipped out. "God" sympathized and provided replacements since the originals were still under warranty.

ego - what is your consideration for those people the fanatic moses accused of committing a crime against the heavens without letting them see the etched tablets claimed from the heavens to know what the crime was they supposedly committed.

they weren't forwarded to jesus ... where are your replacements is that any different than the originals - no, who believes that the jews, crucifies jesus - leave me out of your conspiracy.

1st century events are the repudiation of servitude and denial ... the false commandments the crucifiers live by.

the tablets said otherwise.

 

[Grumblenuts]

they weren't forwarded to jesus ... where are your replacements is that any different than the originals - no, who believes that the jews, crucifies jesus - leave me out of your conspiracy.

1st century events are the repudiation of servitude and denial ... the false commandments the crucifiers live by.

the tablets said otherwise.

Dunno. I was just attempting to inject some humor.

 

[BreezeWood]

Dunno. I was just attempting to inject some humor.

the tablets said otherwise.

sure,

so was the sculptor ... horns for the truthful.

 

[Grumblenuts]

sure,

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so was the sculptor ... horns for the truthful.

Michelangelo? Baa Ram Ewe!
You can find much more of that stuff here.

 

[BreezeWood]

Michelangelo? Baa Ram Ewe!
You can find much more of that stuff here.

ok grumpy - side with the horned moses, you're not alone ... (that site is offlimits according to the anti-virus)

 

[Grumblenuts]

ok grumpy - side with the horned moses, you're not alone ... (that site is offlimits according to the anti-virus)

LOL. I'm not siding with any of it, but your anti-virus must be paranoid. That link comes from an innocent looking little church in Johannesburg, South Africa. Here's the current "priests":

Watch out, I hear she's bitten folks' knuckles off.

 

[Alter2Ego]

You did, flatly stating as a fact that they were and you're still welcome. Don't blame the messenger.

Nothing you've posted thus far has been able to overcome the accurate Biblical descriptions of earth that I posted in my OP, Grumblenuts. Those descriptions were written by inspiration of Jehovah God thousands of years before they were later confirmed by 20th century astronauts. That's why you're now trying to change the goal post by arguing about spheres (3D objects that are round) versus flat circles (2D objects that are round).

At this point, you're behaving like the usual trolls that show up in other people's threads simply to prove they are capable of posting tripe.

TROLL!

 

[Grumblenuts]

Nothing you've posted thus far has been able to overcome the accurate Biblical descriptions of earth that I posted in my OP, Grumblenuts. Those descriptions were written by inspiration of Jehovah God thousands of years before they were later confirmed by 20th century astronauts. That's why you're now trying to change the goal post by arguing

I don't recall ever discussing anything with you prior to this thread, so allow me to quickly introduce myself. Hi, I'm the original Grumblenuts. Others have called me stuff like Grumble or GNuts, etc. for short. You can just call me Nuts. I'm an old fart and, like Ron Reagan, an unapologetic atheist.

That said, I'm sure you sincerely believe all you've argued here and presented it as earnestly as you are able. Being an atheist, I obviously don't believe any of it. But I did and do not come here to argue with nor troll you. I've just wanted to help you understand a bit of basic geometry and hopefully share a few laughs. No worries. Have it your way. I give up. Enjoy.

 

[BreezeWood]

LOL. I'm not siding with any of it, but your anti-virus must be paranoid. That link comes from an innocent looking little church in Johannesburg, South Africa. Here's the current "priests":

Watch out, I hear she's bitten folks' knuckles off.

most likely is s africa - will trust the i-t's anti virus over your photo, in fact that gal's smile and twisted nose just about fits the bill for the warning / shut down.

sorry, your just an innocent by-stander ... grumblenuts isn't a give away at all.

 

[Grumblenuts]

 

[sealybobo]

The difference between the Judeo-Christian Bible and bibles from other types of religion is that there is EVIDENCE of its divine inspiration by the Abrahamic God. Bibles from other types of religions (eg. the Islamic Koran) are unable to provide evidence of divine inspiration because no such evidence exists.

The Judeo-Christian Bible contains some 2,000 prophesies that have been fulfilled, some written centuries before the fulfillment of the prophesied events. Secular history and archeology bears this out. In addition, Bible writers were privy to information that was not discovered by scientists and explorers until centuries later. Below are two such examples.

Example #1: Some pagan nations believed the earth was flat and that if people walked too far, they would fall off. By the 15th Century when Christopher Columbus claimed he discovered the new world, most Europeans correctly theorized that the earth is a circle or sphere. However, it was not until after the first circumnavigation of the globe was led by Ferdinand Magellan in the year 1519 that this theory of a circular earth was proven as fact. More than 2,000 years before Ferdinand Magellan attempted to sail around the globe, the prophet Isaiah did not merely theorize but stated that the earth is a circle. Isaiah was inspired by God to write:

"{22} There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell, {28} Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding." (Isaiah 40:22 and 28)


Example #2: Prior to the 17th century, none of the best scientific minds could explain what causes the earth to be positioned in a stable orbit. It was not until 1687 that Isaac Newton published his theory that gravitational forces are the explanation behind the earth's stability. (Gravity is also the reason why humans can move around without fear of toppling off the earth into space.) More than 3,000 years before Newton's existence, under divine inspiration, Moses wrote that the earth hangs upon nothing (indicating gravity), as follows:

"He [God] is stretching out the north over the empty place, hanging the earth upon nothing;..." (Job 26:7)


DISCUSSION QUESTIONS:
1. How could Isaiah have known that the earth is circular, considering that the writing of the book of Isaiah was completed in 732 B.C.E. and it wasn't until the 16th century AD/CE (2,251 years AFTER Isaiah wrote that the earth is a circle) that Ferdinand Magellan confirmed it?
First to sail around the world
Ferdinand Magellan: the first to go around the world? : Explorers & leaders : Sea & ships fact files : Sea & ships : Explore online : RMG


2. How did Moses know that the earth hangs upon nothing--indicating gravity--considering that the book of Job was completed in 1473 B.C.E. and it wasn't until 1687 AD/CE (3,160 years AFTER Moses wrote that the earth hangs upon nothing) that Isaac Newton published his theory about gravitational forces?
Sir Isaac Newton


3. Where did Isaiah and Moses get this information?


Alter2Ego

First of all, there is no evidence in the bibles. Not the old testament or new. The New Testament says don't worry about the old testament. Throw everything it says out.

2ndly, I'm starting to see Judao Christian values in our society. First Trump cuts off USAID and 14 million are going to die by the year 2030 and I also see in Israel

• Multiple reports from UNICEF indicate more than 17,000 children have been killed and 33,000 injured in Gaza over the past 21 months.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I approach it this way, if anywhere at any time a single human or a group of humans since the dawn of time witnessed with their senses a spirit or unexplainable paranormal experience, then it is evidence of something beyond the physical world.

If there is something beyond the physical world then we have to accept that there may be a soul within G-ds creations. Are they stuck on earth? Is this earth heaven in a spiritual form?

No one today can say with absolute certainty the source of the bible. If Moses saw the burning bush as provided by G-d. If the Israelites witnessed Moses speak to G-d. We can't even say what the present of G-d represents.

If one considers the beauty of some of the core aspects of G-ds Commands. How beneficial they are to us as a species, in progress and a more perfect union with nature and the ethereal, the Torah is way ahead of its time.

This can't be by accident. A bunch of writers couldn't have forged together to essentially write the concept of the Renaissance Period 1000s of years before it actually came to fruition in Europe through sheer dumb luck. Such a visionary view of humanity could not have existed at that time.

If you've read my post this far I want you to consider that. At the time of the Torahs writing the world was grossly cruel and inhumane. Only through G-d is this possible. You wouldn't have a bunch of old men envisioning a future that could never exist, they aren't science fiction writers.

Consider the state of the world G-d advised once the Moshiach rises? This could not have come from the minds of humans at that time, it was so far removed from the human condition to even consider this. It's akin to someone creating the Theory of Relativity or explaining the means to fly to the moon thousands of years before such equations were produced.

Time will tell. At the very least, Pascals Wager is as relevant today as ever.

 

[Zebra]

Paradoxical#1:

Nostradamus didn't make any prophecies. What he did was write poetry in vague, general terms that could equally apply to any number of other events. This is confirmed by numerous sources.

"However, many scholars and experts have pointed out that the majority of Nostradamus’s quatrains are vague and open to interpretation, making them difficult to verify or debunk."



"Nostradamus wrote in Middle French, using vague words, metaphors, and obscure, dated references. There are dozens of different translations of his "Centuries" book, with many variations on different words and phrases. This wide variety of interpretations helps the prophecies come "true," since if one translation doesn't really support the historical evidence, another can often be found that fits better.

"Often even Nostradamus scholars can't agree on what he was trying to say. Several of the prophecies have been the result of simple ignorance of the language, history, or both."

Nostradamus: Predictions of Things Past

Nostradamus, the French "seer" and "prophet," understood that history repeats itself. He wrote his prophecies in such vague terms that people read whatever they want into them.

www.livescience.com

Alter2Ego

the words of Nostradamus may mean anything ... in other words: nothing ....