Zone1 Proof Judeo-Christian Bible Written by Inspiration of God

[BULLDOG]

XponentialChaos:

Of course its convincing, including to you. So much so, that you've shown up in my tread trying to prove you don't believe it.

The only time members of the Religion of Atheism show up in a thread is when they realize their favorite fairytales (evolution and big bang myths) are being challenged by the authenticity of the Judeo-Christian Bible.


Alter2Ego

You're funny. Dumb but funny. Where did you get your crazy ideas about what non religious people might think or do?

 

[BULLDOG]

How long was gravity around before the apple fell on Newton's head? How long has DNA been around before man discovered there was such a thing? Einstein was sure there were 3 dimensions and our universe was static. He could not have been more wrong. Hawking used his limited human knowledge to refute that and deduce that there were 10 dimensions. < God told Maimonides that thousands of years ago.

Moses is credited with penning Genesis. How you know it was inspired by God is that Moses had no idea what a dimension was, let alone it's properties. And, here is some science that our enlightened ones still haven't discovered yet. Dimensions can be stretched, rolled up, torn, burned up. Moses didn't know that. Hawking didn't know that. God knows it and documented it.
Science is only as smart as its next discovery, and it all leads back to the Creator.

The goal of science is to prove it's self wrong. I understand that confuses you.

 

[Alter2Ego]

When you can claim thousands of years later an event matched a prophecy you can use any event you want and shoehorn it in. But regarding your circle bit, The Hebrew word used for "circle" is "khug", which can mean circle, compass, or vault. Some scholars argue that this refers to a spherical Earth, while others believe it describes a flat, circular shape based on ancient cosmology. Thus some unknown writer using that term is hardly proof of any god inspiration and is extremely weak sauce.

Regarding Moses and the earth hanging on nothing, so what? Matter of fact, the unknown writer thought the earth "hung". The earth doesn't hang on nothing, it revolves around the sun like other planets do in a vast universe. IF this was god inspiration, your god didn't want anyone to know about gravity? Some god who supposedly knows all.

Paradoxical#1:

I don't recall providing any prophecies on this website. If I did, it would have been 10 years ago when I used to debate here regularly. I left this website over a decade ago and only recently returned.

You are confusing Bible prophecy with the writings of Nostradamus in which he wrote vague poetry that could be applied to any event. Bible prophecy is specific in describing events in exactly the manner they would occur--in the future. Nostradamus wrote about events AFTER they had already occurred, and people turned around and claimed he wrote prophecy.


As for your lame attempts at discrediting the scriptures in my OP, your argument fails in light of the fact the scriptural context at Isaiah 40 could not have referred to God being above a vault or a compass. The only option left would be circle. And guess what? A 20th century astronaut confirmed that earth looks like a circle when viewed from above. During his interview, he made no mention of the earth looking like a sphere even though, as a scientist, he knew earth is a sphere. He described what he saw as a circle, because that's how earth looks when viewed from above. It's a viewpoint description.

"{22} There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell," (Isaiah 40:22)


Now, suppose you explain to everyone reading this thread how Isaiah, who was earthbound at the time, could have known this?



Alter2Ego

 

[BULLDOG]

BULLDOG:

You sound desperate. A sphere and a circle are both round aka circles. What is it about that don't you get? And you've yet to explain how the Bible writer Isaiah knew this.


Alter2Ego

I can see you think a sphere and a circle are the same thing. You're absurdly wrong, but that's not my problem. It's not my job to convince you otherwise.

 

[BULLDOG]

BULLDOG:

School yard insults won't help your case. You deserve nothing better than an "F" = FAIL, for the tripe you posted in response to the questions in my OP.

Do better.


Alter2Ego

I will give your opinion all the consideration it deserves.

 

[Alter2Ego]

You're funny. Dumb but funny. Where did you get your crazy ideas about what non religious people might think or do?

BULLDOG:

Like I said, schoolyard insults won't improve your "F" = FAIL score. In fact, you keep proving how incapable you are of adult conversation by repeatedly insulting me.

Grow up.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

I can see you think a sphere and a circle are the same thing. You're absurdly wrong, but that's not my problem. It's not my job to convince you otherwise.

BULLDOG:

Nobody said they are the same thing. But you just want to argue for argument's sake.

A sphere is a 3-dimensional round object. Round objects are circles. A regular circle is a 2D object.

"A sphere is a three-dimensional object that is perfectly round and symmetrical. It is defined as the set of all points in 3D space that are equidistant from a fixed point (the center). The distance from the center to any point on the surface is called the radius. A sphere is a 3D shape with no edges or corners."

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Your obsession over Isaiah's words at chapter 40 verse 22 says one thing: You cannot overcome the fact that the Bible writers were thousands of years ahead of their time and that therefore, their writings were inspired by Almighty God Jehovah.


"{22} There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell," (Isaiah 40:22)



Alter2Ego

 

[BULLDOG]

BULLDOG:

Like I said, schoolyard insults won't improve your "F" = FAIL score. In fact, you keep proving how incapable you are of adult conversation by repeatedly insulting me.

Grow up.


Alter2Ego

OK. this is an easy one. There are many more.

In Isaiah 7:1-7 God tells the king of Judah that he shall not be harmed by his enemies. Yet it did come to pass. His enemies did harm him. as 2 Chronicles 28:1-8 tells us.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Your god can't write something that is easily understood or about anything that would happen in the future such as nuclear wars, deaths at the hands of a Christian named Putin, gravity, science, disease?

Actually, Paradoxical#1, despite your denial, the Creator is everyone's God whether they care to admit it or not.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

FAKE NEWS
Constantine rigged it to suit his political needs .
As for Paul of Tarsus .
He was just a rogue and made our dear Mr Trumpfy seem a Saint in comparison .

luiza:

Constantine had nothing to do with the writing of the Judeo-Christian Bible. You're completely confused.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

The Trinitarians are Catholics and Christians. It is a preposterous notion designed to elevate Jesus to not just a son of God, but THE God. This was so humans would be tricked into believing he was not a lesser god like the Greek gods.

Paradoxical#1:

I'm a Christian, and I reject the Trinity dogma because it's not supported by scripture.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

XponentialChaos:

You showed up in this thread trying to cast doubt on the scriptures in my OP because the credibility of the Judeo-Christian Bible is a threat to your Atheist Religion philosophy.

It isn’t proof.

Oh, you know it is, XponentialChaos. That's why you're trying so hard to convince yourself and everybody else that the Judeo-Christian Bible was not inspired by Jehovah.


Alter2Ego

 

[BULLDOG]

BULLDOG:

Nobody said they are the same thing. But you just want to argue for argument's sake.

A sphere is a 3-dimensional round object. Round objects are circles. A regular circle is a 2D object.

"A sphere is a three-dimensional object that is perfectly round and symmetrical. It is defined as the set of all points in 3D space that are equidistant from a fixed point (the center). The distance from the center to any point on the surface is called the radius. A sphere is a 3D shape with no edges or corners."

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Your obsession over Isaiah's words at chapter 40 verse 22 says one thing: You cannot overcome the fact that the Bible writers were thousands of years ahead of their time and that therefore, their writings were inspired by Almighty God Jehovah.


"{22} There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell," (Isaiah 40:22)



Alter2Ego

a circle doesn't include all points in space that are equidistant from a fixed pint (the center). If it did, it wouldn't be a circle. It would be a sphere. There is much to admire and respect in Christianity. Why don't you discuss more of that and less of your goofy stories that can easily be shown to be bullshit?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Oh, you know it is, XponentialChaos. That's why you're trying so hard to convince yourself and everybody else that the Judeo-Christian Bible was not inspired by Jehovah.


Alter2Ego

Actually, it isn’t proof. You’re trying really hard to convince yourself it is, but it clearly isn’t.

 

[BULLDOG]

BULLDOG:

And it just so happens that both Isaiah and Moses were proven to be correct that earth hangs upon nothing (gravity) and that the earth is circular. They wrote these descriptions centuries before other humans eventually proved it. So exactly what is your point?

BTW: You just earned yourself another "F" grade for your answer to Question #3 in my OP. Your skepticism doesn't impress me.


Alter2Ego

Do you believe gravity is nothing?

 

[Alter2Ego]

OK. this is an easy one. There are many more.

In Isaiah 7:1-7 God tells the king of Judah that he shall not be harmed by his enemies. Yet it did come to pass. His enemies did harm him. as 2 Chronicles 28:1-8 tells us.

BULLDOG:

Jehovah is not obligated to keep promises to people who turn bad after he promises to protect them. You are ignoring how wicked the King of Judah became and why Jehovah abandoned him to his enemies.

Isaiah 7:1​

Now in the days of Aʹhaz son of Joʹtham son of Uz·ziʹah, the king of Judah, King Reʹzin of Syria and Peʹkah son of Rem·a·liʹah, the king of Israel, came up to wage war against Jerusalem, but he could not capture it.

Isaiah 7:5​

For Syria with Eʹphra·im and the son of Rem·a·liʹah have plotted harm against you, saying:

Isaiah 7:6​

“Let us go up against Judah and tear it apart and conquer it for ourselves, and let us appoint the son of Tabʹe·el as its king.”

Isaiah 7:7​

“‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “It will not succeed, Nor will it take place.

2 Chronicles 28:1​

Aʹhaz was 20 years old when he became king, and he reigned for 16 years in Jerusalem. He did not do what was right in Jehovah’s eyes as David his forefather had done.

2 Chronicles 28:2​

Instead, he walked in the ways of the kings of Israel, and he even made metal statues of the Baʹals.

2 Chronicles 28:3​

Moreover, he made sacrificial smoke in the Valley of the Son of Hinʹnom and burned up his sons in the fire, following the detestable practices of the nations that Jehovah had driven out from before the Israelites.

2 Chronicles 28:4​

He also kept sacrificing and making sacrificial smoke on the high places, on the hills, and under every luxuriant tree.

2 Chronicles 28:5​

So Jehovah his God gave him into the hand of the king of Syria, so that they defeated him and carried off a great number of captives and brought them to Damascus. He was also given into the hand of the king of Israel, who inflicted on him a great slaughter.


You expected a righteous God such as Jehovah to reward wrongdoing? Really?


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

Do you believe gravity is nothing?

BULLDOG:

You are playing the fool. Gravity is invisible. The Bible is giving a viewpoint description of how earth looks when viewed from outerspace. It appears to be hanging upon nothing.


Alter2Ego

 

[cnm]

FAKE NEWS
Constantine rigged it to suit his political needs .
As for Paul of Tarsus .
He was just a rogue and made our dear Mr Trumpfy seem a Saint in comparison .

Hard to argue against.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Actually, it isn’t proof. You’re trying really hard to convince yourself it is, but it clearly isn’t.

XonentialChaos:

If what I stated in my OP isn't proof that the Bible is inspired of God (and I haven't even gotten to the prophecies yet), why are you still in this thread arguing about it and trying to win everybody else over?

The harder you argue, the more you demonstrate that you can't overcome what's stated in my OP.


Alter2Ego

 

[cnm]

Now, suppose you explain to everyone reading this thread how Isaiah, who was earthbound at the time, could have known this?

Every religion I can think of has sky fathers. Why should bronze age desert dwellers be different?