Zone1 Proof Judeo-Christian Bible Written by Inspiration of God

[Alter2Ego]

Yes, it is a translation, the rest are revised by man, but you read what you want to read.

I'll stick with the KJV.

DukeU:

You can't get it through your head that the King James Version of the Bible is just that--a version aka a mere translation by man. You also are dodging the fact that the KJV has errors. It contains some 16 fabricated verses that do not appear in the oldest manuscripts, including the fabricated word "godhead" which showed up in an English translation some 1,500 years after the Bible was written.

Those 16+ extra verses in the KJV (that are "missing" from other Bibles) were added by copyists over the centuries. The King James translators included these later interpolations in their translation. Modern translations do not include the 16+ extra verses because their translators knew that those verses were not part of the original texts. Below is one of many sources that confirms this.

"Actually these verses aren’t missing. They were never in the earliest manuscripts discovered which is what the newer Bible versions are based off of. They somehow crept into later manuscripts. The not-really-missing verses consist of 17 verses and 2 passages of the New Testament.
. . .
These missing verses weren’t in the ‘Alexandrian family’ of manuscripts (200 to 400 AD), but show up in the medieval ‘Byzantine family’ of manuscripts (500 to 1000 AD) discovered on a different continent. (Just to clarify - earlier fragments/ parts of manuscripts have been discovered - just not "families.") Scholars don't know how these verses got into the text. They believe they were added by the copyists to expound upon a point or to clarify a point. Because the King James Bible is based on later manuscripts, these verses became part of the Bible tradition in English-speaking lands."

You are NOT Missing Verses

I first heard about this from customers back when I worked at the Christian bookstore. They would say something like, “I would never read from the NIV because it is missing verses!” The first time I heard it I was like, “What?!” And the young guy showed me where some verses were not in the NIV...

www.passiontoknowmore.com

So keep up your arrogance, pretending that the KJV is the best translation of the Judeo-Christian Bible, and then to top it off, arrogantly claiming that other Bible versions are mere revisions of the KJV. You've certainly got it twisted.

The reality is that other Bible translations (despite the fact most of them are Trinitarian translations--like the KJV) at least had the decency to remove the fabricated verses from their product.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Pythagoras guessed the Earth was round by observing the moon and Eratosthenes accurately measured its circumference. Both ancient Greeks were polytheists. No bible needed. By the time Columbus came around, the fact that the Earth was round was widely known. Very primitive tribes were more concerned with survival by hunting and gathering. Less primitive tribes did pay attention to the stars in relation to the seasons because of crops and harvesting.
The book was written by "humans" and thus it proves nothing.
As far as prophecies go, Nostradamus did a fair job at prophecy, as did Edgar Cayce. Neither confirms a deity, only good personal insight.

LuckyDuck01!:

And? So what's your point, in light of the fact the book of Isaiah was completed in 732 BCE, Pythagoras wasn't born until 570 BCE (162 years after Isaiah wrote under inspiration of Jehovah God), and Eratosthenes wasn't born until 276 BCE (456 years after Isaiah wrote that earth is circular).

Isaiah | Biography, Prophet, Theology, & Facts | Britannica

Isaiah, prophet after whom the biblical Book of Isaiah is named, a significant contributor to Jewish and Christian traditions. His call to prophecy about 742 BCE coincided with the beginnings of the westward expansion of the Assyrian empire, which Isaiah proclaimed to be a warning from God to...

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Pythagoras | Biography, Philosophy, & Facts | Britannica

Pythagoras, Greek philosopher, mathematician, and founder of the Pythagorean brotherhood.

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Eratosthenes

Eratosthenes (l. c. 276-195 BCE) was a Greek astronomer, geographer, mathematician, and poet best known for being the first to calculate the circumference of the earth and its axial tilt. He is also...

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Keep in mind that at the time of Isaiah's writing, no other peoples in existence knew that earth is circular.

So exactly what is your point?

 

[Alter2Ego]

moot!

That's what I meant to write. It was a typo. But thanks for the correction.

 

[DukeU]

DukeU:

You can't get it through your head that the King James Version of the Bible is just that--a version aka a mere translation by man. You also are dodging the fact that the KJV has errors. It contains some 16 fabricated verses that do not appear in the oldest manuscripts, including the fabricated word "godhead" which showed up in an English translation some 1,500 years after the Bible was written.

Those 16+ extra verses in the KJV (that are "missing" from other Bibles) were added by copyists over the centuries. The King James translators included these later interpolations in their translation. Modern translations do not include the 16+ extra verses because their translators knew that those verses were not part of the original texts. Below is one of many sources that confirms this.

"Actually these verses aren’t missing. They were never in the earliest manuscripts discovered which is what the newer Bible versions are based off of. They somehow crept into later manuscripts. The not-really-missing verses consist of 17 verses and 2 passages of the New Testament.
. . .
These missing verses weren’t in the ‘Alexandrian family’ of manuscripts (200 to 400 AD), but show up in the medieval ‘Byzantine family’ of manuscripts (500 to 1000 AD) discovered on a different continent. (Just to clarify - earlier fragments/ parts of manuscripts have been discovered - just not "families.") Scholars don't know how these verses got into the text. They believe they were added by the copyists to expound upon a point or to clarify a point. Because the King James Bible is based on later manuscripts, these verses became part of the Bible tradition in English-speaking lands."

You are NOT Missing Verses

I first heard about this from customers back when I worked at the Christian bookstore. They would say something like, “I would never read from the NIV because it is missing verses!” The first time I heard it I was like, “What?!” And the young guy showed me where some verses were not in the NIV...

www.passiontoknowmore.com

So keep up your arrogance, pretending that the KJV is the best translation of the Judeo-Christian Bible, and then to top it off, arrogantly claiming that other Bible versions are mere revisions of the KJV. You've certainly got it twisted.

The reality is that other Bible translations (despite the fact most of them are Trinitarian translations--like the KJV) at least had the decency to remove the fabricated verses from their product.

LOL

I'm really not trying to be rude or "arrogant" here, you have that covered.

I'm merely stating that I only read the KJV.

You said it yourself, that the KJV was a translation by man. That's right, it was translated from Greek and Hebrew to English.

The difference between a translation and a revision is a big deal. Revision means something has been changed. The only thing changed during a translation is the language.

If you wish to read revisions of God's word, more power to you.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Paradoxical#1:

Thanks for showing who you really are, whining earlier and begging me and kjw47 for evidence the Bible was inspired. In other words, putting on a pretence that you were interested in proof.

For your insincerity, you are now banished to my Ignore List where I won't have to waste my precious time scrolling past the nonsense you continue to post.

BTW: You will be in good company on my Ignore List, since your pal ding is right there waiting for you.

Like I care? Who are you?

 

[Grumblenuts]

In my book:

Spherical indicates a regular, three dimensional object like a ball, having a center equidistant from its surface points.

Circular indicates a regular, two dimensional surface or disc having a center equidistant from all perimeter points.

Round may indicate either circular or spherical.

The Earth has always been three dimensional like a ball. Never like a circle.

 

[Alter2Ego]

LOL

I'm really not trying to be rude or "arrogant" here, you have that covered.

I'm merely stating that I only read the KJV.

You said it yourself, that the KJV was a translation by man. That's right, it was translated from Greek and Hebrew to English.

The difference between a translation and a revision is a big deal. Revision means something has been changed. The only thing changed during a translation is the language.

If you wish to read revisions of God's word, more power to you.

Who cares! If's full of errors and you're trying to make it out as being the best translation of the Bible in English. It certainly is not.

 

[Alter2Ego]

In my book:

Spherical indicates a regular, three dimensional object like a ball, having a center equidistant from its surface points.

Circular indicates a regular, two dimensional surface or disc having a center equidistant from all perimeter points.

Round may indicate either circular or spherical.

The Earth has always been three dimensional like a ball. Never like a circle.

Grumblenuts:

I've got news for you. All round objects are circular in shape, including a sphere (3D circular object) as well as any flat, round object (2D).

"The sphere is a three-dimensional shape, also called the second cousin of a circle. A sphere is round, has no edges, and is a solid shape. The playing ball, balloon, and even light bulbs are examples of sphere shape. "

Sphere - Definition, Formulas, Equation, Properties, Examples

Learn about the geometrical shape sphere and its real-life examples. Use formulas to find the surface area and volume of a sphere.

www.splashlearn.com

The prophet Isaiah was inspired to write that the earth looks circular when viewed from above. And what he described was confirmed by astronauts in the 20th century when they viewed earth from their spaceship. None of them reported seeing a sphere, despite them knowing that earth is spherical (a 3-dimensional circular object).



"{22} There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell, {28} Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding." (Isaiah 40:22 and 28)


The same viewpoint description given by the prophet Isaiah is what was reported by at least one astronaut during an interview.

 

[DukeU]

Who cares! If's full of errors and you're trying to make it out as being the best translation of the Bible in English. It certainly is not.

Stop spreading misinformation.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Grumblenuts:

I've got news for you. All round objects are circular in shape, including a sphere (3D circular object) as well as any flat, round object (2D).

"The sphere is a three-dimensional shape, also called the second cousin of a circle. A sphere is round, has no edges, and is a solid shape. The playing ball, balloon, and even light bulbs are examples of sphere shape. "

Sphere - Definition, Formulas, Equation, Properties, Examples

Learn about the geometrical shape sphere and its real-life examples. Use formulas to find the surface area and volume of a sphere.

www.splashlearn.com

The prophet Isaiah was inspired to write that the earth looks circular when viewed from above. And what he described was confirmed by astronauts in the 20th century when they viewed earth from their spaceship. None of them reported seeing a sphere, despite them knowing that earth is spherical (a 3-dimensional circular object).



"{22} There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell, {28} Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding." (Isaiah 40:22 and 28)


The same viewpoint description given by the prophet Isaiah is what was reported by at least one astronaut during an interview.

Yes, viewed from a great distance any ball will appear circular, and as I said, "Round may indicate either circular or spherical." We agree.

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No, not all round objects are circular in shape.

You're a good egg in my book, but do check yourself before wrecking yourself.

I've got news for you. All round objects are circular in shape

 

[BreezeWood]

I've got news for you.

really ...

not just the christian bible, all three desert religions use judaism in their preamble including the tablets claimed by moses etched in the heavens that never existed ...

those tablets were never witnessed by anyone but moses who destroyed them and negates all three desert bibles as forgeries for their inclusion that could not possibly be known for their true content.

how could those who freely worshiped as they pleased as free spirits know what the fanatic moses was complaining about when they destroyed the very tablets they claimed were commandments from the heavens condemning them for not worshiping only mr big above anyone else - apparently they thought everything was just fine.

and ego - no one knows what was even on the tablets mysteriously found in all three desert bibles - how can that be and what about those moses prevented from seeing what he was accusing them of as a crime.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Stop spreading misinformation.

DukeU:

Stop being in denial. I gave you weblinks to independent sources.

 

[Alter2Ego]

However,{<--link}

You're a good egg in my book, but do check yourself before wrecking yourself.

Your best move is to take your own advice, Grumblenuts. You sound like a wreck already.

 

[DukeU]

DukeU:

Stop being in denial. I gave you weblinks to independent sources.

Which means absolutely nothing.

But you believe as you wish, and I'll do the same.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Which means absolutely nothing.

But you believe as you wish, and I'll do the same.

Yaaaawn.

 

[DukeU]

Yaaaawn.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Your best move is to take your own advice, Grumblenuts. You sound like a wreck already.

Spheres are spherical, not circular. You're welcome.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Spheres are spherical, not circular. You're welcome.

I gave you a quotation from an independent source, along with the weblink, that says spheres are round objects. All round objects are circular in shape, Grumblenuts.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I gave you a quotation from an independent source, along with the weblink, that says spheres are round objects. All round objects are circular in shape, Grumblenuts.

Yes, spheres are round objects.
No, not "all round objects are circular in shape"
Google it.
More to the point, spheres are not circular.
Google it.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Yes, spheres are round objects.
No, not "all round objects are circular in shape"
Google it.
More to the point, spheres are not circular.
Google it.

Who cares if they're not all circular in shape, Gumblenuts?

The focus of this thread is that there is proof the Judeo-Christian Bible was inspired by Almighty God Jehovah. I presented scriptures in my OP showing that the Bible writers, who were earthbound, could not have known that information unless they were inspired by the Abrahamic God to write it.

Obviously, you haven't been able to contradict anything in my OP, and so now you're quibbling over 3D objects and 2D objects and whether all objects that are spherical are circular. If you can't stick to the topic of my OP, get lost! Don't post anything else to me about 3D and 2D objects. If you do, don't expect to get a response from me.