Progressives rotate 180°on their views over night

[danielpalos]

If would mean something, if the right wing ever studied history.

Socialism starts with a Social Contract. Our federal Constitution is an example.

In the real world socialism is a failure, you know what they say about people that try the same thing over and over and expect different results?

Right wing fantasy starts, with a fallacy of false Cause.

Capitalism died in 1929 and socialism has been bailing us out, ever since.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

This is the direct result of socialism, it has been a failure to mankind ever since it was thought up… Fact

Because the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. See how that works? Moron.

Defense isn't the cost of that debt, dumb ass. Nice try.

A wartime economy should require at bare minimum, Standing Army Tax Rates, to be a credible fiscal deterrent.

 

[P@triot]

Why don't you let the free market decide on North Korea?

Because the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. See how that works? Moron.

A projection of power is offensive, not defensive.

A projection of intelligence requires rational posts - not irrational.

Thank you for ceding the point and the argument, by simply being on the right wing; for future reference.

Thank you for ceding your intellectual inferiority by simply posting!

 

[jillian]

Why don't you let the free market decide on North Korea?

Because the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. See how that works? Moron.

as well as the general welfare....

thanks for playing

 

[jillian]

There is no such thing privately owned business in socialists societies....

socialism and communism aren't the same.

try again.

Communism is socialism… Evolved. No one should be forced to live under socialism

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

an outright lie

no surprises. you should probably do some studying. that said, we're far from socialist and society requires a mixture of capitalist and socialist systems to service the populous.

they live pretty well in most countries with a socialist bent.

now talk about Venezuela and Cuba and not the European countries

*yawn*

 

[jillian]

Why don't you let the free market decide on North Korea?

Because the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. See how that works? Moron.

A projection of power is offensive, not defensive.

A projection of intelligence requires rational posts - not irrational.

Thank you for ceding the point and the argument, by simply being on the right wing; for future reference.

Thank you for ceding your intellectual inferiority by simply posting!

poor baby... projecting again little boy?

it's always so cute when you try to pretend you have an IQ above double digits.

 

[Seawytch]

There is no such thing privately owned business in socialists societies....

socialism and communism aren't the same.

try again.

Communism is socialism… Evolved. No one should be forced to live under socialism

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

History has proven that bad things come from capitalism...fact.

 

[jillian]

There is no such thing privately owned business in socialists societies....

socialism and communism aren't the same.

try again.

Communism is socialism… Evolved. No one should be forced to live under socialism

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

History has proven that bad things come from capitalism...fact.

bad things come from anything that is too extreme whether left or right.

true story

 

[Seawytch]

socialism and communism aren't the same.

try again.

Communism is socialism… Evolved. No one should be forced to live under socialism

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

History has proven that bad things come from capitalism...fact.

bad things come from anything that is too extreme whether left or right.

true story

I like capitalism in my socialism and vice versa.

 

[sealybobo]

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

If would mean something, if the right wing ever studied history.

Socialism starts with a Social Contract. Our federal Constitution is an example.

In the real world socialism is a failure, you know what they say about people that try the same thing over and over and expect different results?

Right wing fantasy starts, with a fallacy of false Cause.

Capitalism died in 1929 and socialism has been bailing us out, ever since.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

This is the direct result of socialism, it has been a failure to mankind ever since it was thought up… Fact

Bullshit. The debt is the result of bankers owning us. We don't have money for social services but plenty for the military industrial complex.

And Reagan made us the largest debtor nation when we were the largest creditors before

 

[jillian]

Communism is socialism… Evolved. No one should be forced to live under socialism

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

History has proven that bad things come from capitalism...fact.

bad things come from anything that is too extreme whether left or right.

true story

I like capitalism in my socialism and vice versa.

exactly

 

[jillian]

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

If would mean something, if the right wing ever studied history.

Socialism starts with a Social Contract. Our federal Constitution is an example.

In the real world socialism is a failure, you know what they say about people that try the same thing over and over and expect different results?

Right wing fantasy starts, with a fallacy of false Cause.

Capitalism died in 1929 and socialism has been bailing us out, ever since.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

This is the direct result of socialism, it has been a failure to mankind ever since it was thought up… Fact

you know our system was designed to carry debt, right?

this was a discussion when our govt was set up... Jeffersonian slave owners lost.

 

[P@triot]

Why don't you let the free market decide on North Korea?

Because the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. See how that works? Moron.

as well as the general welfare....

thanks for playing

No it doesn't sweetie - we've been through this before. Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it any less of a lie.

“Congress had not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were restrained to those specifically enumerated; and that, as it was never meant they should provide for that welfare but by the exercise of the enumerated powers, so it could not have been meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action” - Thomas Jefferson (June 6, 1817)

...and declare to be most false and unfounded, the doctrine that the [Constitution], in authorizing its federal branch to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States, has given them thereby a power to do whatever they may think, or pretend, would promote the general welfare–which construction would make that of itself a complete government, without limitation of powers.… The plain sense and obvious meaning were that they might levy the taxes necessary to provide for the general welfare by the various acts of power therein specified and delegated to them, and by no others. – Thomas Jefferson (December 24, 1825)

If only you weren't so astoundingly ignorant of the U.S. Constitution, our founders, and American history, uh Jills?

 

[P@triot]

History has proven that bad things come from capitalism...fact.

Um...actually...that is not a "fact" at all. Quite the contrary, man's standard of living was dreadful for thousands of years. It wasn't until the rise of capitalism that the standard of living for all people around the world skyrocketed.

Stop making stuff up Sea. It's not helpful.

 

[P@triot]

you know our system was designed to carry debt, right?

You know that was the dumbest made up comment ever posted on USMB, right?

“The maxim of buying nothing but what we [have] money in our pockets to pay for … lays the broadest foundation for happiness.” - Thomas Jefferson (July 28, 1787)

“The laws of nature impose no obligation on [one generation] to pay [another’s] debt. And although, like some other natural rights, this has not yet entered into any declaration of rights, it is no less a law, and ought to be acted on by honest governments." - Thomas Jefferson (June 24, 1817)

“I … place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared.” - Thomas Jefferson (July 21, 1816)

 

[P@triot]

it's always so cute when you try to pretend you have an IQ above double digits.

The sad part is that it doesn't even take an IQ of double-digits to expose you and defeat you.

 

[Seawytch]

History has proven that bad things come from capitalism...fact.

Um...actually...that is not a "fact" at all. Quite the contrary, man's standard of living was dreadful for thousands of years. It wasn't until the rise of capitalism that the standard of living for all people around the world skyrocketed.

Stop making stuff up Sea. It's not helpful.

You DO never tire of being wrong. So delightful!

Opinion | The Good, Bad and Ugly of Capitalism

In the corporate equivalent of the shot heard round the world, Greg Smith, a former Goldman executive, wrote an Op-Ed article in The Times as he was walking out the door in which he described a corporate culture that values only one thing: making as much money as possible, by whatever means necessary. According to Smith, Goldman views clients as pigeons to be plucked rather than customers to be valued. Goldman traders vie to see how much profit they can make at the expense of their clients, even if it means selling them products that are sure to “blow up” eventually. “It makes me ill how callously people talk about ripping their clients off,” Smith wrote.​

3 Reasons Why Good Socialism Defeats Bad Capitalism

1) Capitalism is not a political system, but an economic one. Jude stated, “The distinction is extremely important, for it frees supporters of capitalism from having to defend it as a caring or compassionate institution, which it is not. It is coldly mechanical.”[...]

2) Socialism is more sensitive to signals of wealth inequality. Although its prescriptions for the problem – things like raising the minimum wage, universal healthcare and shared ownership of productive assets – are trickier to deliver than they assume, socialism is far superior to capitalism in telling us that a member of the electorate is being left behind and that a gap in the wealth distribution is widening. [...]

3) A Socialism that permits more market signals and personal freedoms can be superior to a Capitalism that permits pursuit of profit by an elite manipulating public policy. As Jude wrote, “Capitalism did not fail in the Great Depression because profit was burdened with social concerns. It failed because the capitalist ruling class saw an opportunity to increase its profits by an increase in the protective tariff— using its political muscle to push Smoot-Hawley through the Republican Congress and persuade President Hoover to sign the legislation. This was a blatant intervention in the market, not for the usual purpose of increasing government revenues, but to engineer a social outcome desired by Big Business.” [/I]​

 

[Rustic]

There is no such thing privately owned business in socialists societies....

socialism and communism aren't the same.

try again.

Communism is socialism… Evolved. No one should be forced to live under socialism

We are not yet, simply moral enough, to establish a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

an outright lie

no surprises. you should probably do some studying. that said, we're far from socialist and society requires a mixture of capitalist and socialist systems to service the populous.

they live pretty well in most countries with a socialist bent.

now talk about Venezuela and Cuba and not the European countries

*yawn*

Europe is so far in fucking doubt they will never get out... Fuck Europe asshole.

Keep your fucking socialism to yourself you fucking moron.... lol

 

[Rustic]

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

If would mean something, if the right wing ever studied history.

Socialism starts with a Social Contract. Our federal Constitution is an example.

In the real world socialism is a failure, you know what they say about people that try the same thing over and over and expect different results?

Right wing fantasy starts, with a fallacy of false Cause.

Capitalism died in 1929 and socialism has been bailing us out, ever since.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

This is the direct result of socialism, it has been a failure to mankind ever since it was thought up… Fact

Bullshit. The debt is the result of bankers owning us. We don't have money for social services but plenty for the military industrial complex.

And Reagan made us the largest debtor nation when we were the largest creditors before

You stupid ass... lol

 

[Rustic]

History has proven only bad things come from socialism... fact

If would mean something, if the right wing ever studied history.

Socialism starts with a Social Contract. Our federal Constitution is an example.

In the real world socialism is a failure, you know what they say about people that try the same thing over and over and expect different results?

Right wing fantasy starts, with a fallacy of false Cause.

Capitalism died in 1929 and socialism has been bailing us out, ever since.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

This is the direct result of socialism, it has been a failure to mankind ever since it was thought up… Fact

you know our system was designed to carry debt, right?

this was a discussion when our govt was set up... Jeffersonian slave owners lost.

Certainly not the Debt it has now... far too much to be ever paid back. Socialism is only suits fucked up piece of shit progressives....

 

[OKTexas]

For the past 10 years or so we had to hear from progressives how businesses were not private. How they belonged to the government and/or the public. How serving the public meant they had no right to refuse service.

Yet the past few days, progressives had drowned social media celebrating stories of businesses who "serve the public" denying Nazi and/or white supremacist groups service. One was a restaurant. The big news today was ISP and cloud services denying their services to a website called "Daily Stormer" (apparently some white supremacist site).

So what happened? When a business owner wanted to refuse service to homosexuals based on their religious beliefs (fully protected by the U.S. Constitution), the left completely lost their shit. They insisted that it was "discrimination" and demanded that either the business be forced - at the barrel of a gun - to provide their products or services, or be run out of business.

And yet, when a business does the exact same thing to another group (for reasons not protected by the U.S. Constitution), all we hear from the fascists is "they have the right to refuse service".

This is what happens when views/ideologies are built from irrational emotion instead of logic and reason. There is an absurd contradiction and lack of consistency - which completely obliterates all credibility (hence the reason nobody takes the left seriously on anything).

People are standing up to groups and individuals that spread hate speech and who are widely condemned by every leader in our country including Trump. How can you compare that to an oppressed minority group like homosexuals?

Do gays spread anything but hate speech........classs

Of course they do. Most just want to live their life in peace. What are you talking about. You really equating gays with Nazis?

Actually faghadist are more dangerous, they allow them to push their crap in our schools.


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