Progressive Propaganda: The Tax Edition

[g5000]

Man. How can a party fuck up the messaging on a middle class tax cut?

By not having one, of course.

Morons.

The middle class was tossed a sop so they wouldn't notice the bulk of the tax cut went to special interests. You have to throw some crumbs to the mob.

 

[Mac1958]

Recent and projected growth in U.S. government debt poses a serious hazard to the nation.

I don't think we're supposed to talk about that.

Reagan redux.
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[P@triot]

Trump is on track to smash Obama's spending record.

This thread is not about spending. If you want to discuss spending, start a thread about that. But don't hijack this one. You will be reported for one more idiotic outburst about a topic that is not being discussed here. Moron.

 

[P@triot]

The middle class was tossed a sop so they wouldn't notice the bulk of the tax cut went to special interests. You have to throw some crumbs to the mob.

No matter how much you lie about it, you can't change it. Everyone made out with these tax cuts. Everyone.

 

[bendog]

Recent and projected growth in U.S. government debt poses a serious hazard to the nation.

I don't think we're supposed to talk about that.

Reagan redux.
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Reagan's tax cut was partially responsible for freeing up private money for investment rather than being stashed in loopholes. There's no similarity in facts to then and now.

Ryan (shock) and Rubio both proposed middle tax cuts. Rubio to his credit pretty much ignored income tax RATES. A child tax credit to working families making under X. Doing that would have removed this from being any issue for the dems.

But the gop is tied to the 1%. Any tax cut for workers must also cut their taxes. They pose this as "fairness" and "we pay most of the tax." But the don't pay most of the local and state or payroll taxes. I have a hard time thinking Reagan would have done this, and I'm not a big Reagan fan on taxes and spending. I thought the defense increases were wasteful and dangerous, and they were.

 

[g5000]

The middle class was tossed a sop so they wouldn't notice the bulk of the tax cut went to special interests. You have to throw some crumbs to the mob.

No matter how much you lie about it, you can't change it. Everyone made out with these tax cuts. Everyone.

Especially foreigners!

They are reaping 80 percent of the benefits.

 

[P@triot]

The middle class was tossed a sop so they wouldn't notice the bulk of the tax cut went to special interests. You have to throw some crumbs to the mob.

No matter how much you lie about it, you can't change it. Everyone made out with these tax cuts. Everyone.

Especially foreigners!

They are reaping 80 percent of the benefits.

Even if that were true (and it's not) - that just proves that the tax cuts are pulling foreign dollars into the U.S. economy!

 

[g5000]

Trump is on track to smash Obama's spending record.

This thread is not about spending. If you want to discuss spending, start a thread about that. But don't hijack this one. You will be reported for one more idiotic outburst about a topic that is not being discussed here. Moron.

This is how willful blindness works. Whine about debt when Obama is President, cover your eyes when Trump accelerates debt!

Priceless.

Your tax cuts can't hide the fact Trump is making the hole deeper than ever. That is not good for the economy. In fact, it is a direct threat to the security of our country.

At least that's what the Heritage Foundation was saying then Obama was doing it!

So yeah. Report me for providing the FULL picture which threatens your bogus false premise upon which your idiocy is built. I understand you can't fight on a level playing field.

 

[imawhosure]

The middle class was tossed a sop so they wouldn't notice the bulk of the tax cut went to special interests. You have to throw some crumbs to the mob.

No matter how much you lie about it, you can't change it. Everyone made out with these tax cuts. Everyone.

Especially foreigners!

They are reaping 80 percent of the benefits.

They illegal aliens? If they are, then all the Lefties love it-)

 

[g5000]

The middle class was tossed a sop so they wouldn't notice the bulk of the tax cut went to special interests. You have to throw some crumbs to the mob.

No matter how much you lie about it, you can't change it. Everyone made out with these tax cuts. Everyone.

Especially foreigners!

They are reaping 80 percent of the benefits.

They illegal aliens? If they are, then all the Lefties love it-)

No. The foreigners who are benefiting are countries like China who are lending us the debt rope with which to hang ourselves.

Trump's fake tax cut transferred $1.5 trillion of debt onto our children's backs. P@triot desperately wants to decouple that reality from his bullshit false premise.

 

[P@triot]

Your tax cuts can't hide the fact Trump is making the hole deeper than ever.

Ladies & Gentlemen....G-string caught in another one of his many left-wing lies again. The tax cuts actually increased revenue to the federal government. Yes, increased. We don't have a revenue problem (and President Trump increased our revenue) - we have a spending problem (and this thread is not about our spending problem).

he Congressional Budget Office says that federal revenues in January added up to $362 billion. That's an increase of $18 billion— or 5.2% — from the year before. As a result, the government ran a surplus of $51 billion that month, which is equal to the previous January.

Making G-string my personal bitch on USMB since 2011!

Go Figure: Tax Revenues Climbed $18 Billion In First Month Of GOP Tax Cuts | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

 

[g5000]

You can't decouple Trump's tax cut from our debt, P@triot. They are one and the same.

Trump's tax cut transferred $1.5 trillion of debt to our descendants. Your propagandists are keeping that fact from you.

It's strange how angry you get when confronted with the TRUTH!

 

[imawhosure]

The middle class was tossed a sop so they wouldn't notice the bulk of the tax cut went to special interests. You have to throw some crumbs to the mob.

No matter how much you lie about it, you can't change it. Everyone made out with these tax cuts. Everyone.

Especially foreigners!

They are reaping 80 percent of the benefits.

They illegal aliens? If they are, then all the Lefties love it-)

No. The foreigners who are benefiting are countries like China who are lending us the debt rope with which to hang ourselves.

Trump's fake tax cut transferred $1.5 trillion of debt onto our children's backs. P@triot desperately wants to decouple that reality from his bullshit false premise.

Spending is a very big problem. What should we cut!

See, I bet we both agree to start slicing and dicing, but I also bet what we want to slice and dice is totally different!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Everything the left says about taxes is an outrageous lie. And the left knows it too. But they are more interested in getting their hands on your money than they are in prosperity.

Many U.S.-based multinationals are finding luck with Ireland’s low corporate tax rate—and that 12.5% rate has been a pot of gold for the Irish economy as well.

In 2015, the Irish economy was estimated to have grown by 26.3% through foreign companies opening operations and providing high-paying jobs, including about 700 U.S. companies currently operating in the country.

The indisputable, undeniable fact is that low taxes brings in businesses, creates jobs, and stimulates considerable economic growth and GDP.

Ireland Lowered Its Corporate Tax Rate. Here's What Happened.

You Might want to digest this:

Opinion | Are Corporate Tax Cuts Raising Pay? Yes, for Bosses

Recent announcements by Apple, Walmart, AT&T, Starbucks and other businesses that they are giving workers raises, repatriating foreign profits and investing in the United States because of the tax bill Congress passed last year are clearly music to the ears of President Trump and Republican lawmakers. But these statements are also cleverly designed public relations spin that tells us little about the actual long-term economic impact of the tax law.

and deal with this;

It’s great that after decades of anemic wage growth, some workers are finally getting a raise. But if President Trump and the Republicans in Congress were serious about helping workers via the tax code, they had obvious options open to them: They could have cut taxes on the middle class and expanded the earned-income tax credit for poorer workers. Instead, they chose to write giant checks to big investors on the accounts of future generations.

And I'll bet that you were a deficit hawk during the Obama years--don't lie. Whats up with that now?

It is also very much in the political interest of companies to attribute to the new tax law the changes they make to salaries or investment plans. That’s a surefire way to win favor with Mr. Trump, a notorious sucker for flattery. And it is a way to deflect attention from the insidious aspects of the tax law: It will add about $1.5 trillion to the federal deficit over 10 years, and many poor and middle-class families will pay more taxes over time.

and there is this:

It’s the corporate elite who stand to benefit most from the tax law. Lloyd Blankfein, the Goldman Sachs chief executive who supported Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, told CNBC recently that he “really liked” what the president is doing for the economy.

Furthermore:

In cutting the corporate tax rate, Republicans have argued that the 35 percent rate was holding American businesses back relative to foreign competitors. This is hard to square with the fact that companies based in the United States have prospered in recent decades. Apple, for example, has become one of the world’s most valuable companies and went from employing 5,000 people in the United States in 1998 to employing 84,000 this year.

You might also consider:

There’s nothing wrong with cutting taxes on corporations as part of a broader reform that closes loopholes, increases American competitiveness and helps create well-paying jobs. Unfortunately, none of those conditions apply in this case.

As many experts have pointed out, corporate tax cuts passed by Congress and signed into law by President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s did not turbocharge wages or investment. Similarly, a series of corporate tax cuts in the last 10 years or so by Labour and Conservative governments in Britain — to 19 percent, from 30 percent — did not produce a boom in wages or investment. In fact, wages grew faster in the United States, according to an article on Vox by Kimberly Clausing, an economics professor, and Edward Kleinbard, a law professor.

So now, who is guilty of propaganda? And don't even try any shit about the "failing NYT s" Pedaling fake news. It will just make you look stupid and crazy like Trump​

 

[P@triot]

P@triot desperately wants to decouple that reality from his bullshit false premise.

The premise of this thread - you ignorant, illiterate anus - is that progressives have lied about taxes for generations and we have the evidence to prove it. You've attempted to hijack it for the last time.

 

[imawhosure]

You can't decouple Trump's tax cut from our debt, P@triot. They are one and the same.

Trump's tax cut transferred $1.5 trillion of debt to our descendants. Your propagandists are keeping that fact from you.

It's strange how angry you get when confronted with the TRUTH!

You are WRONG as usual. Amount of tax is not our problem, the amount of spending is, plain and simple. You can NOT tax your way to prosperity, for if you can, YOU pretend your tax rate is 100%, and magically you will become rich-)

 

[Doc1]

You can't decouple Trump's tax cut from our debt, P@triot. They are one and the same.

Trump's tax cut transferred $1.5 trillion of debt to our descendants. Your propagandists are keeping that fact from you.

It's strange how angry you get when confronted with the TRUTH!

Actually it's stranger that you can never admit the truth. You are a died in the wool Progressive Marxist. It's never that you're "spending" too much. it's always "we don't tax enough".

 

[g5000]

Your tax cuts can't hide the fact Trump is making the hole deeper than ever.

Ladies & Gentlemen....G-string caught in another one of his many left-wing lies again. The tax cuts actually increased revenue to the federal government. Yes, increased. We don't have a revenue problem (and President Trump increased our revenue) - we have a spending problem (and this thread is not about our spending problem).

he Congressional Budget Office says that federal revenues in January added up to $362 billion. That's an increase of $18 billion— or 5.2% — from the year before. As a result, the government ran a surplus of $51 billion that month, which is equal to the previous January.

Making G-string my personal bitch on USMB since 2011!

Go Figure: Tax Revenues Climbed $18 Billion In First Month Of GOP Tax Cuts | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

You didn't read your own link, retard:

As the CBO notes, the new payroll withholding scheduled hadn't fully taken effect in January; companies don't have to update their employee tax withholdings until the middle of this month. When that happens, monthly revenues from individual income taxes will likely slip.


Meanwhile, in the very same period:
The US needs to borrow almost $300 billion this week

The United States plans to sell about $294 billion of debt, according to the Treasury Department. That's the highest for a week since the record set during the 2008 financial crisis.

Trump smashes another Obama record.

Notice that deafening silence from the pseuedocons about Trump's massive spending?

Yeah. Me, too.

Trump is on track to bust Obama's spending record wide open.

Yet the pseudocons propagandists are completely silent about it.

 

[P@triot]

And I'll bet that you were a deficit hawk during the Obama years--don't lie. Whats up with that now?

Absolutely! And I still am. Chew on this, snowflake...

The Congressional Budget Office says that federal revenues in January added up to $362 billion. That's an increase of $18 billion— or 5.2% — from the year before. As a result, the government ran a surplus of $51 billion that month, which is equal to the previous January.

In other words, President Trump and the Republicans have increased revenues to the federal government while at the same time, decreasing what the citizens have to pay. That's what conservative policy always does - it solves problems and creates prosperity (while failed progressive policy creates poverty)

Go Figure: Tax Revenues Climbed $18 Billion In First Month Of GOP Tax Cuts | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

 

[P@triot]

Your tax cuts can't hide the fact Trump is making the hole deeper than ever.

Ladies & Gentlemen....G-string caught in another one of his many left-wing lies again. The tax cuts actually increased revenue to the federal government. Yes, increased. We don't have a revenue problem (and President Trump increased our revenue) - we have a spending problem (and this thread is not about our spending problem).

he Congressional Budget Office says that federal revenues in January added up to $362 billion. That's an increase of $18 billion— or 5.2% — from the year before. As a result, the government ran a surplus of $51 billion that month, which is equal to the previous January.

Making G-string my personal bitch on USMB since 2011!

Go Figure: Tax Revenues Climbed $18 Billion In First Month Of GOP Tax Cuts | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

You didn't read your own link, retard:

Oh I did read it. And I made you my bitch (again) on USMB in the process.