"Pro life" is not a conservative position.

[TNHarley]

Exactly, even though it could not survive without external intervention. There is no difference between that and convenience based fetal abortion. Murder.

I disagree.

 

[Trickster]

But in the same breath, you claim it is OK to murder this human if the mother wants to.

Do you know the diffference between noun and adjective?

 

[TNHarley]

But in the same breath, you claim it is OK to murder this human if the mother wants to.

The woman has authority over her body. Not a fetus that couldnt even breath if it was cut out.

 

[Concerned American]

Forced gestation is good! But dont make me wear a mask! Its my body!

Did the wearing of a mask involve the taking of an innocent human life?

 

[Trickster]

Forced gestation is good! But dont make me wear a mask! Its my body!

Flawless logic.

 

[Concerned American]

The woman has authority over her body. Not a fetus that couldnt even breath if it was cut out.

We've just discussed this. The fetus could not survive on its own after birth either and you agreed that to abandon it would be murder. These circuitous straw man arguments are doing nothing to advance your point.

 

[Trickster]

Did the wearing of a mask involve the taking of an innocent human life?

Aaawwwwwwww, innocent. <3333

 

[Trickster]

We've just discussed this. The fetus could not survive on its own after birth either and you agreed that to abandon it would be murder. These circuitous straw man arguments are doing nothing to advance your point.

The doifetence between being born and a ZEF is not arbitrary.

 

[Concerned American]

Because the standard of value is the pregnant woman's will, duuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

Why can a surgeon perform surgery on you after consent, but the hoodlum who stabs you is charged?

Your strawman isn't getting it anymore than the ludicrous claims about animals and cancer. The point of the matter is, you abortion supporters claim in one breath that abortion is not murder because the fetus is not "human" but the fetus magically becomes human if it's life is taken by another that you choose to justify a murder charge for. The fetal life was taken---regardless of who takes that life, it is murder. LOL, next you'll be saying a mother can murder any child at any stage because it is the "mother's will."

 

[Concerned American]

Do you know the diffference between noun and adjective?

Do you know how to spell diFFerence? Take your irrelevant BS down the road. Thanks for the concession.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have? How you can you claim to be conservative, claim to be against big govt, while putting them as overseers over peoples bodies?
Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.
Dont get me wrong, I think abortion is abhorrent, but the govt dictating what we do with our bodies is way worse. Its tyranny.
It makes no sense to me. At all.

The retarded progressive liberal version of Jedi mind tricks "these are not the droids your looking for"

No one but of you left leaning sheep fall for that reverse physiology bullshit. Highlarious.

 

[Trickster]

Your strawman isn't getting it anymore than the ludicrous claims about animals and cancer.

I am simply putting your own standards and definitions to the test to point out the flaws and absurdity in your argument.

The point of the matter is, you abortion supporters claim in one breath that abortion is not murder because the fetus is not "human" but the fetus magically becomes human if it's life is taken by another that you choose to justify a murder charge for. The fetal life was taken---regardless of who takes that life, it is murder.

It does not magically become a human. Context matters and I already explained it to you without claiming a fetus is a human being.

 

[Trickster]

Do you know how to spell diFFerence? Take your irrelevant BS down the road. Thanks for the concession.

Triggered much?

 

[Concerned American]

It does not magically become a human. Context matters and I already explained it to you without claiming a fetus is a human being.

No you didn't. You claimed the murder charge changed with the person who commits the murder--somehow justifying a mother's nonexistent right to murder her offspring because it is NOT human--but only a fetus that could not survive on its own. Then you twisted into a pretzel and claimed that somehow--the "abortion" became murder because the father was responsible for the exact same fatal fetal outcome. So the human status changed with who committed the murder. Keep digging.

 

[Couchpotato]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have? How you can you claim to be conservative, claim to be against big govt, while putting them as overseers over peoples bodies?
Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.
Dont get me wrong, I think abortion is abhorrent, but the govt dictating what we do with our bodies is way worse. Its tyranny.
It makes no sense to me. At all.

You clearly dont understand the pro life position.

 

[Concerned American]

Triggered much?

Don't flatter yourself, it takes more than leftist stoooopidity to trigger me. LOL, you're an amateur.

 

[Trickster]

No you didn't. You claimed the murder charge changed with the person who commits the murder--somehow justifying a mother's nonexistent right to murder her offspring because it is NOT human--but only a fetus that could not survive on its own. Then you twisted into a pretzel and claimed that somehow--the "abortion" became murder because the father was responsible for the exact same fatal fetal outcome. So the human status changed with who committed the murder. Keep digging.

Eh... What?

Are you OK?

 

[Trickster]

You clearly dont understand the pro life position.

It is very easy to understand.

• Women are lesser beings than men no different from breeding stock.
• A zygote has more rights than a woman.
• Women should not enjoy sex.
• Motherhood is a punishment.
• All this because God said so.

 

[Dante]

Cruz? shall we look at his votinig record?
MTG is advocating for obamacare as we speak

I'm sure that even a tool as clueless as you are usually proven to be are aware that good people often do terrible things, and that bad people often do good things.


In the real world, Conservatives have been known to side with a liberal policy position, and Liberals have been known to side with a conservative policy position.

Unless a human being is such an outlier as to be a one-dimensional fool like you...

 

[dblack]

It is very easy to understand.

• Women are lesser beings than men no different from breeding stock.
• A zygote has more rights than a woman.
• Women shouod not enjly sex.
• Motherhood is a punishment.
• All this because God said so.

I don't really buy all that. I'm sure some pro-lifers do think that way, but most of them just see abortion as a tragedy and a waste, and they want to prevent it.