"Pro life" is not a conservative position.

[theHawk]

Im not referring to her health. Im referring to her choice. ITS HER BODY

No, it’s not. The mother’s soul is not in the body of the fetus.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have?

Roe v Wade does exactly that.
So do laws against prostitution, drug use, and polygamy.
And the draft.

Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.

And it hardly ever exists.

 

[theHawk]

human corpses have human DNA, do they have right to life?

Is a human fetus dead and rotting or is it living and growing?

You’re really reaching here. All you’re doing is demonstrating what a satanic imbecile you really are. “Trickster” indeed.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Well, your first claim was that "DNA" and not "human DNA" is what constitutes rights. I am glaf you clarified, buuut here is the problem -- human corpses have human DNA, do they have right to life?

Ah. A head in the ass question.

Human body parts, organs, cells and fluids have human DNA too, do they have right to life?

These are human body parts, not human bodies.

 

[TNHarley]

I get it---you support murder of the innocent for the convenience of irresponsible parents. Murder is already illegal.

No, I dont support abortion. IDK how many times I have to say that. But peoples rights are more important than my feelings.

 

[Trickster]

Is a human fetus dead and rotting or is it living and growing?

Again, you are stuck on non-essentials and conflating potential with actual.

You’re really reaching here. All you’re doing is demonstrating what a satanic imbecile you really are. “Trickster” indeed.

You have nlt made one valid argument.

 

[TNHarley]

Being dependent doesn’t mean it isn’t a separate body. After the baby is born it is still dependent on an adult to keep it alive. Severely handicapped adults depend on others to stay alive. This is not a qualifier or determination of being a human being.

Your belief in Satan’s existence is irrelevant. You reject God and His authority, which Satan was the first to do.

Saint Augustine described the devil this way: “He cannot accept reality and through his arrogant pride presumes to counterfeit an unreality.” This perfectly sums up how modern day secularists act. Those that reject reality are thus satanic in nature. This is an accurate descriptor for you and your ilk.

"reality was written by ignorant savages on lambskin thousands of years ago. Its reality because the earth is actually flat, plants dont actually need the sun to survive and babies deserve to die because their dad likes a penis in his mouth"

I know it cant feed itself, but it can actually breath. It can actually consume. Its lungs begin to inflate. It begins breaking down waste. You know, all the things that keep born humans alive without being physically attached to their mother.

 

[theHawk]

Again, you are stuck on non-essentials and conflating potential with actual.

You have nlt made one valid argument.

^^ as usual, you can’t answer the question.
You’re the one that brought up the “non essential”, but as soon as the logic is turned around on you, you run like the weasel you are.

 

[TNHarley]

Roe v Wade does exactly that.

It gives states the right to pass a law saying they have more authority over womans bodies than they do.

And it hardly ever exists.

Because of leftists. People like "pro-lifers"

 

[Concerned American]

No, I dont support abortion. IDK how many times I have to say that. But peoples rights are more important than my feelings.

Don't you see the contradiction here? You don't support abortion but by your attempted justification of it because of perceived rights, you ARE supporting it. I've already explained that medical issues where the mother's life is endangered, the mother's health takes precedence in all jurisdictions. Beyond that is where it becomes legalized murder for the convenience of irresponsible parents. Murder.

 

[Trickster]

^^ as usual, you can’t answer the question.
You’re the one that brought up the “non essential”, but as soon as the logic is turned around on you, you run like the weasel you are.

Fact of the matter is that I did answer your question by pointing out it is stupid.

We already agreed being livimg is not enough to have rights and adding the adjective "growimg" does not change that. A lot of lifeforms are lving and growing , for example cancer -' is chemo murder?

Fact of the matter is that "growing" is the keyword here as it implies it is potential-- What id it it growing into? A human. Which in turn implies it is not (yet) human.

 

[theHawk]

"reality was written by ignorant savages on lambskin thousands of years ago. Its reality because the earth is actually flat, plants dont actually need the sun to survive and babies deserve to die because their dad likes a penis in his mouth"

I know it cant feed itself, but it can actually breath. It can actually consume. Its lungs begin to inflate. It begins breaking down waste. You know, all the things that keep born humans alive without being physically attached to their mother.

Reality is observed, not written into existence by man. Clearly those men in lambskins thousands of years ago had a better understanding of reality than the likes of you.

Fetuses consume energy and oxygen while in the womb. They also break down waste through the placenta.

Here is where you continue to deny science and reality.

Carry on, child of Satan.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It gives states the right to pass a law saying they have more authority over womans bodies than they do.

The right to bodily autonomy is not unlimited, so...

 

[Concerned American]

Fact of the matter is that I did answer your question by pointing out it is stupid.

We already agreed being livimg is not enough to have rights and adding the adjective "growimg" does not change that. A lot of lifeforms are libong and growing , for example cancer -' is chemo murder?

Fact of the matter is that "growing" is the keyword here as it implies it is potential-- What id it it growing into? A human. Which in turn implies it is not (yet) human.

LMAO, animals? cancer? Irrelevant nonsense. There are no statutes which outlaw the killing of these organisms. There are statutes in every jurisdiction in the world outlawing MURDER of HUMAN BEINGS. A viable fetus with a beating heart is a human being in spite of your mistaken view of the matter.

 

[TNHarley]

Fetuses consume energy and oxygen while in the womb.

They receive oxygen rich blood from their mother.
Its so funny watching people say the bible is reality lol.

Carry on, child of Satan.

Do you understand how silly you sound? Grow up, man.

 

[theHawk]

Fact of the matter is that "growing" is the keyword here as it implies it is potential-- What id it it growing into? A human. Which in turn implies it is not (yet) human.

A child grows into an adult.

Is a child that is still growing not a human then?

Your logic is failing you, Bigly.

 

[TNHarley]

The right to bodily autonomy is not unlimited, so...

So that makes it ok? Because govts abuse their power, its fine?
And you consider yourself anything but a pinko?

 

[Concerned American]

Its so funny watching people say the bible is reality lol.

Hold on here. You introduced the bible verse to justify your belief---although you only used the portion of it that dubiously seemed to support your position.

 

[theHawk]

They receive oxygen rich blood from their mother.

Yes. They get it from their mother, not themselves. Yet you claim the fetus and the mother are one and the same.

 

[theHawk]

Its so funny watching people say the bible is reality lol

You’re the one that asked for a bible reference. It must be “real” if even you appealed to its authority.