"Pro life" is not a conservative position.

[Trickster]

I don't really buy all that. I'm sure some pro-lifers do think that way, but most of them just see abortion as a tragedy and a waste, and they want to prevent it.

They are then just misguided because exactly that which I listed are the implications of their stance.

"Tragedy and waste" compared to what?
The unwillingly pregnant woman who chooses abortion is doing so because she does not want children. The real tragedy would be to enter motherhood when it is something she does not want, for both her and the child. The real waste is the 9 months of pregnancy followed by the lifelong responsibility of parenthood when it is not her value.

The only context in which abortion becomes tragedy is if she is willingly pregnant but has to terminate it for medical reasons.

 

[Couchpotato]

It is very easy to understand.

• Women are lesser beings than men no different from breeding stock.
• A zygote has more rights than a woman.
• Women should not enjoy sex.
• Motherhood is a punishment.
• All this because God said so.

Oh look another person who doesn’t understand the position.

 

[theHawk]

The baby is completely dependent on the mother. You pull that fetus out during the time most abortions happen, the fetus will die. Because, can you guess?




































It cant live without the mother.

And? Notice how you have separated the two beings. One is dependent on the other.

So thanks for admitting they are two different beings.

 

[Trickster]

And? Notice how you have separated the two beings. One is dependent on the other.

So thanks for admitting they are two different beings.

They are not separate though.

 

[theHawk]

I didnt bring up god and i only asked about it because you lied. Again.

You’re lying again. YOU are the one that asked for a bible verse pertaining to the issue. Why did you do that if you had no intention of actually adhering to the Bible or the church that gave us the Bible as an authority appointed by God?

 

[theHawk]

They are not separate though.

So? Two different beings can be attached.

 

[dblack]

"Tragedy and waste" compared to what?

Have you ever had children? I oppose any state regulation of procreation, it's not hard for me to understand how many people would see a potential mother ending her pregnancy as a tragedy and waste. Maybe you don't see it that way, and that's fine, but a lot of people do, and I don't think their reasons are as ill-willed as you suggested.

 

[Trickster]

So? Two different beings can be attached.

I think they circumcised the wrong head at your birth and accidentally lobotomized you.

You are incredibly dumb.

 

[theHawk]

I think they circumcised the wrong head at your birth and accidentally lobotomized you.

You are incredibly dumb.

You’re the one performing mental gymnastics to justify the murder of unborn babies.

 

[Trickster]

Have you ever had children? I oppose any state regulation of procreation, it's not hard for me to understand how many people would see a potential mother ending her pregnancy as a tragedy and waste. Maybe you don't see it that way, and that's fine, but a lot of people do, and I don't think their reasons are as ill-willed as you suggested.

My parental status is irrelevant to this conversation and althlugh your emotionalism is cute it does not hold up as an argument.

Explain to me what makes it a tragedy and a waste instead.

 

[theHawk]

Flawless logic.

The “My Body My Choice” logic went out the window with forced vaccinations.

 

[Trickster]

You’re the one performing mental gymnastics to justify the murder of unborn babies.

There we go again. "Unborn babies".

Guess I am a parent afterall. To many unborns. And have been all my life.

 

[Trickster]

The “My Body My Choice” logic went out the window with forced vaccinations.

Oh no! You're one of those. Yuck.

 

[dblack]

My parental status is irrelevant to this conversation and althlugh your emotionalism is cute it does not hold up as an argument.

Oh **** off. i wasn't even making that argument, just saying I could understand how others would - that thinking that way doesn't make them evil.

Explain to me what makes it a tragedy and a waste instead.

Well, continuing to engage with a troll would be a good example. Piss off.

 

[Unkotare]

....

We already agreed being livimg [sic] is not enough to have rights ...

"We"? YOU agreed with yourself, which makes for two stupid, immoral, bullshit opinions.

 

[Trickster]

Oh **** off. i wasn't even making that argument, just saying I could understand how others would - that thinking that way doesn't make them evil.

Well, continuing to engage with a troll would be a good example. Piss off.

Yes. Being anti-abortion is evil!

 

[Unkotare]

My parental status is irrelevant to this conversation ...

You illogical ghouls always run from questions that put the lie to your bullshit.

 

[theHawk]

There we go again. "Unblrn babies".

Guess I am the parent afterall. To many unborns. And have been all my life.

Yea, there we go again….using proper terms for real life things happening. Like that baby yet to be born is “unborn”. That darn language stuff.

No amount of tap dancing or wordplay is going to change reality, bub.

 

[Trickster]

You illogical ghouls always run from questions that put the lie to your bullshit.

Like I said above, I have unborn babies with you.

 

[theHawk]

Oh no! You're one of those. Yuck.

Yea imagine that, I refused to get jabbed with an experimental vax I didn’t need or want. While all the “My Body My Choice” crowd were perfectly fine with forcing people to get the jab. Y’all were more than happy to line up like sheep.