President Trump: I have directed @stevenmnuchin1 to get ready to send direct payments ($3,400 for family of four) to all Americans.

This thread is fantastic..... WHY??

Because it is another example of how the right will HOLD THEIR SIDE ACCOUNTABLE.
I have said this for years. Alt-Right has tried and failed numerous times to attract support from mainstream conservatives.
For the left, there is BLM. BlackLivesMatter, the organization, is a far-left propaganda machine that the left have embraced simply because of their name.

Once again - conservatives show, they speak up against what is wrong, even if it is their own side.
never heard of the alt-right until just recently 2016
Yes... you made my point.
It began in 2010 by a man who was interested in growing the numbers of white nationalist, and to attempt to mainstream it by finding common beliefs among everyday conservatives and themselves.
He failed. His "movement" was recognized for what it was by conservatives and roundly rejected.
Despite the left media trying everything they could to make it seem much larger than it is, and also of course attempt to make it synonymous with Trump. And without that media attempt, you would likely have never heard of it then either.
ok and your point would be? Does it change anything that I and a lot of other people had not heard of an ALT RIGHT UNTIL THE MEDIA HAD AN AXE TO GRIND WITH THE PRESIDENT?
Your point is invalid
Calm down... if you read again, perhaps you will see I was agreeing with you.
The Alt-Right was/is a failed organization that tried to mainstream white nationality. You only heard of them because the media tried to make people think Trump was synonymous with them.
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

But you'll cash your check, won't you?


Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money


So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

Nope. No fallacy. Either people have convictions and live by them, or they don't. But if they keep preaching that other people should live by the convictions they themselves refuse to abide by, they're nothing but hypocrites.


Look, I'd rather Trump NOT do this, but if he does then you want to set up some snotty little paradigm where those of us who would rather see our elected leadership be fiscally smart, should not use our own money given back to us? Yeah, you can shove that shit....I'm quite sure while you are busy calling those of us that do spend the money hypocrites, you'll be right there spending yours too....Don't be silly.

You get angry when the government allows people to keep more of their money.

Why is that? Do you believe the government can spend your money more wisely than you can?

I'm not getting any of that money. Lots of people won't. It's going to the people Trump thinks might be tempted to vote Democrat. He's playing the same game the Democrats do, and you dumbasses cheer for it. What's the point in electing a Republican if they're just going to play the same games that the Democrats do?
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

But you'll cash your check, won't you?


Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money


So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

Nope. No fallacy. Either people have convictions and live by them, or they don't. But if they keep preaching that other people should live by the convictions they themselves refuse to abide by, they're nothing but hypocrites.


Look, I'd rather Trump NOT do this, but if he does then you want to set up some snotty little paradigm where those of us who would rather see our elected leadership be fiscally smart, should not use our own money given back to us? Yeah, you can shove that shit....I'm quite sure while you are busy calling those of us that do spend the money hypocrites, you'll be right there spending yours too....Don't be silly.

You get angry when the government allows people to keep more of their money.

Why is that? Do you believe the government can spend your money more wisely than you can?

I'm not getting any of that money. Lots of people won't. It's going to the people Trump thinks might be tempted to vote Democrat. He's playing the same game the Democrats do, and you dumbasses cheer for it. What's the point in electing a Republican if they're just going to play the same games that the Democrats do?

I wouldn't vote Democrat with a gun to my head. I got my tax money back last time, and I'll get my tax money back this time.

Perhaps your analysis is flawed.
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

But you'll cash your check, won't you?


Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money


So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

Nope. No fallacy. Either people have convictions and live by them, or they don't. But if they keep preaching that other people should live by the convictions they themselves refuse to abide by, they're nothing but hypocrites.


Look, I'd rather Trump NOT do this, but if he does then you want to set up some snotty little paradigm where those of us who would rather see our elected leadership be fiscally smart, should not use our own money given back to us? Yeah, you can shove that shit....I'm quite sure while you are busy calling those of us that do spend the money hypocrites, you'll be right there spending yours too....Don't be silly.

You get angry when the government allows people to keep more of their money.

Why is that? Do you believe the government can spend your money more wisely than you can?

I'm not getting any of that money. Lots of people won't. It's going to the people Trump thinks might be tempted to vote Democrat. He's playing the same game the Democrats do, and you dumbasses cheer for it. What's the point in electing a Republican if they're just going to play the same games that the Democrats do?

I wouldn't vote Democrat with a gun to my head. I got my tax money back last time, and I'll get my tax money back this time.

Perhaps your analysis is flawed.

Nope. These payments only go to "eligible" taxpayers. It's the usual interest group politics, buying off groups of voters where support is weak. Trumpsters are fake "conservatives".
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

But you'll cash your check, won't you?


Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money


So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

Nope. No fallacy. Either people have convictions and live by them, or they don't. But if they keep preaching that other people should live by the convictions they themselves refuse to abide by, they're nothing but hypocrites.


Look, I'd rather Trump NOT do this, but if he does then you want to set up some snotty little paradigm where those of us who would rather see our elected leadership be fiscally smart, should not use our own money given back to us? Yeah, you can shove that shit....I'm quite sure while you are busy calling those of us that do spend the money hypocrites, you'll be right there spending yours too....Don't be silly.

You get angry when the government allows people to keep more of their money.

Why is that? Do you believe the government can spend your money more wisely than you can?

I'm not getting any of that money. Lots of people won't. It's going to the people Trump thinks might be tempted to vote Democrat. He's playing the same game the Democrats do, and you dumbasses cheer for it. What's the point in electing a Republican if they're just going to play the same games that the Democrats do?

I wouldn't vote Democrat with a gun to my head. I got my tax money back last time, and I'll get my tax money back this time.

Perhaps your analysis is flawed.

Nope. These payments only go to "eligible" taxpayers. It's the usual interest group politics, buying off groups of voters where support is weak. Trumpsters are fake "conservatives".

You're not an eligible taxpayer? Have you considered maybe, I dunno -- getting a job?

Meanwhile, it's hilarious that you believe eligible taxpayers are in danger of voting Democrat.
 
Trump used to slobber all over Chinese President Xi when they used to meet before the corona

Trump didn't protect Americans lives from the corona, it's the opposite, HE WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT!
 
When the government fucks up they must pay. call it what you want
However, maybe you should consider stopping voting for the fuck up democrats so the Government does not have to pay

Never voted Democrat in my life. I don't support this kind of crap.
You have three options
Vote Republican
Vote democrat and get worse than you feel like you have it now
DON'T VOTE FOR EITHER
Now here's a test for you
What rights have Republicans taken away from people and what rights have democrats taken from people?
Make a list and give it some thought
The rights taken away you may not agree with those rights but someone wants those rights.
 
If it arrives I'll consider it Reparations for Trump's presidency.
That's what democrats say the looting is. Reparations...
I'm a Democrat, I've never said that.
You support people who do. BLM is just another arm of the DNC domestic terrorist organization. Nobody would expect a democrat to have any clue what's going on. The ones that do are hard-core commies, the rest are just useful idiots who believe the communist.

With that post, you won our daily Idjit award. It's a template for a tattoo for your forehead so that any tattoo artist can easily transfer it. This way, even before you open your mouth, the person you are going to talk to won't be stunned by your comment.

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Your denial doesn't make it untrue when in fact it is true.
BLM is the modern-day KKK terrorist of the DNC
So snowflake you get to keep your award
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.


You are such a moron if you think this will happen. For the same reason the unemployment benefits won’t come through, the channel to get this money to the treasury does not exist. The only channel where this exists is through Congress - you know, the institution that actually funds this shit?

But what difference does it make to you right? The money won’t come and you’ll pretend Trump never said this and you’ll continue sucking his dick.



Is this like that 10% tax cut he promised the middle class tight before the 2018 midterms? I am wondering why he NEVER spoke of it again?

Remember that $ 21.00 tax cut Obama offered up that all you lefties pee’d yourself over?


21 is infinity better than 0. How is 0 doing for you?

Makes you feel so MAGA doesn't it!!!!

I got a tax cut from Trump.

Thing is, though, it only applied to people with jobs...so I can see leftists' opposition to it.

Did you get the 10% he promised right before the 2018 midterms? Be honest you do not even remember he said it.

I did



Like all the tard herd you are a liar.

As I said I made 10,000 more in 2018 than I did in 2017 working fewer hours, and I also got a raise
It's irrelevant that you agree with how much more I made it doesn't change any facts



Yet your conveiniently avoiding the question. Did you enjoy your 10% middle class tax cut tRump promised right before the 2018 midterms?

If you don't have a job you wouldn't see a tax cut


Have had one since 1979.

Well junior you got a tax cut now shut the fuck up


Didn't get the 1 promised right before the 2018 midterms. Do you wanna lie some more and tell me that u did?

Not my fault you didn't get a tax cut maybe if you had a job
 
Trump used to slobber all over Chinese President Xi when they used to meet before the corona

Trump didn't protect Americans lives from the corona, it's the opposite, HE WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT!
That makes no sense

you think the President wants to destabilize the economy during an election year? With a democrat party itching to have anything to use against him?
FUCKING LOONY TOONS
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

But you'll cash your check, won't you?


Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money


So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

Nope. No fallacy. Either people have convictions and live by them, or they don't. But if they keep preaching that other people should live by the convictions they themselves refuse to abide by, they're nothing but hypocrites.


Look, I'd rather Trump NOT do this, but if he does then you want to set up some snotty little paradigm where those of us who would rather see our elected leadership be fiscally smart, should not use our own money given back to us? Yeah, you can shove that shit....I'm quite sure while you are busy calling those of us that do spend the money hypocrites, you'll be right there spending yours too....Don't be silly.

You get angry when the government allows people to keep more of their money.

Why is that? Do you believe the government can spend your money more wisely than you can?

I'm not getting any of that money. Lots of people won't. It's going to the people Trump thinks might be tempted to vote Democrat. He's playing the same game the Democrats do, and you dumbasses cheer for it. What's the point in electing a Republican if they're just going to play the same games that the Democrats do?

I wouldn't vote Democrat with a gun to my head. I got my tax money back last time, and I'll get my tax money back this time.

Perhaps your analysis is flawed.

Nope. These payments only go to "eligible" taxpayers. It's the usual interest group politics, buying off groups of voters where support is weak. Trumpsters are fake "conservatives".

You're not an eligible taxpayer? Have you considered maybe, I dunno -- getting a job?


Don't play dumb (or, well, maybe you're not playing). "Eligible" means under a certain income, etc....
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

"I'll go around congress..." - Obama
 
Democrats hold up aid to Americans because they hate Americans and are doing what they can to make the Chinese bio weapon as painful for Americans as possible.
And they want as many people to lose their property/mortgages again
so they can make a killing like they did from '09-12
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

"I'll go around congress..." - Obama


Yep. Trump is no better than Obama. Same shit, different party.
 
Democrats hold up aid to Americans because they hate Americans and are doing what they can to make the Chinese bio weapon as painful for Americans as possible.
And they want as many people to lose their property/mortgages again
so they can make a killing like they did from '09-12
Democrats are using their terrorist riots to attack Americans and lower the land values in areas they want to buy up
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.


You are such a moron if you think this will happen. For the same reason the unemployment benefits won’t come through, the channel to get this money to the treasury does not exist. The only channel where this exists is through Congress - you know, the institution that actually funds this shit?

But what difference does it make to you right? The money won’t come and you’ll pretend Trump never said this and you’ll continue sucking his dick.



Is this like that 10% tax cut he promised the middle class tight before the 2018 midterms? I am wondering why he NEVER spoke of it again?

Remember that $ 21.00 tax cut Obama offered up that all you lefties pee’d yourself over?


21 is infinity better than 0. How is 0 doing for you?

Makes you feel so MAGA doesn't it!!!!

I got a tax cut from Trump.

Thing is, though, it only applied to people with jobs...so I can see leftists' opposition to it.

Did you get the 10% he promised right before the 2018 midterms? Be honest you do not even remember he said it.

I did



Like all the tard herd you are a liar.

As I said I made 10,000 more in 2018 than I did in 2017 working fewer hours, and I also got a raise
It's irrelevant that you agree with how much more I made it doesn't change any facts



Yet your conveiniently avoiding the question. Did you enjoy your 10% middle class tax cut tRump promised right before the 2018 midterms?

If you don't have a job you wouldn't see a tax cut


Have had one since 1979.

Well junior you got a tax cut now shut the fuck up


Didn't get the 1 promised right before the 2018 midterms. Do you wanna lie some more and tell me that u did?

Not my fault you didn't get a tax cut maybe if you had a job


You didn't either, you know why? Because the tax cut promised before the 2018 midterms was as much a fantasy as Mexico paying for his border wall. Don't you feel MAGA now!?!?
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

But you'll cash your check, won't you?


Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money


So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

Nope. No fallacy. Either people have convictions and live by them, or they don't. But if they keep preaching that other people should live by the convictions they themselves refuse to abide by, they're nothing but hypocrites.


Look, I'd rather Trump NOT do this, but if he does then you want to set up some snotty little paradigm where those of us who would rather see our elected leadership be fiscally smart, should not use our own money given back to us? Yeah, you can shove that shit....I'm quite sure while you are busy calling those of us that do spend the money hypocrites, you'll be right there spending yours too....Don't be silly.

You get angry when the government allows people to keep more of their money.

Why is that? Do you believe the government can spend your money more wisely than you can?


I do? Show me where, and maybe I can clear it up for you...
 
This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.



Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

But you'll cash your check, won't you?


Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money


So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

Nope. No fallacy. Either people have convictions and live by them, or they don't. But if they keep preaching that other people should live by the convictions they themselves refuse to abide by, they're nothing but hypocrites.


Look, I'd rather Trump NOT do this, but if he does then you want to set up some snotty little paradigm where those of us who would rather see our elected leadership be fiscally smart, should not use our own money given back to us? Yeah, you can shove that shit....I'm quite sure while you are busy calling those of us that do spend the money hypocrites, you'll be right there spending yours too....Don't be silly.


You would rather he didn't do this but you will be right there defending it and making excuses for it. It's why politicians understand they can lie to you and you will still fall in line.
 
If Trump wanted to send checks to Americans, he should have negotiated with Pelosi.

Of course, a sticking point for Trump is making sure the post office can actually operate, and since that is a threat to his re-election, obviously is higher priority.
Pelosi babbled incoherently with Chris Wallace, then Mnuchin came on and said both sides reached agreement on most issues, but Pelosi is holding her nose and pouting unless she gets the full pork package. Mnuchin made it clear he and the president were ready to act on each and every agreed upon point, but only one person is holding it up. As for the come to Jesus democrat debt hawks, nice to see you, during a pandemic crash of the economy, is there ever time when stimulus should be used to combat it?

The problem is we will not stop using it. We are addicted to it. If the stock market isn't constantly going up we feel we have to provide it more and more welfare programs.

Wall Street wants trillions, that is good. If people want a raise in the minimum wage then that is somehow evil.

So to recap. Third house is good welfare, simply being able to pay your rent is bad.
 

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