President Trump: I have directed @stevenmnuchin1 to get ready to send direct payments ($3,400 for family of four) to all Americans.

[bigrebnc1775]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: President Trump calls for 'direct payments' to 'all Americans'

President Trump called for additional stimulus checks to be sent to Americans amid stalled talks with Democrats over a new bill to address various issues related to the coronavirus pandemic.

money.yahoo.com

but how did bill Clinton take money from social security and place it into the general fund to create a surplus?
How did obama gain access to all that money that was dropped off in Iran?

Yeah, keep posting this bullshit. It's easily debunked. As far as Clinton, we can debate the accounting terms if you like but it was still a surplus. But I'll be fair, in this article, you get a glimpse of what a tax structure should look like and debate of the accounting method.

The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton - FactCheck.org

Q: During the Clinton administration was the federal budget balanced? Was the federal deficit erased? A: Yes to both questions, whether you count Social Security or not. FULL ANSWER This chart, based on historical figures from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, shows the total deficit...

www.factcheck.org

more proof from fake news you only agree with factcheck when they can twist things to fit your argument

 

[j-mac]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: President Trump calls for 'direct payments' to 'all Americans'

President Trump called for additional stimulus checks to be sent to Americans amid stalled talks with Democrats over a new bill to address various issues related to the coronavirus pandemic.

money.yahoo.com

But you'll cash your check, won't you?

Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money

So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

I disagree daveman is pointing out an obvious leftists hypocrisy
Jackieboy bitching about the money but yet will make his way to take the money and do whatever jackie boy does with money.

Well, yeah....What would be the alternative to that? Should Jack only do with the money what you say he should? And, would you agree to those terms with your money?

The Trump supporters missed the point of the post in the rush to defend their lord and savior and the attempt to create a distraction.

And to think I was actually defending you a little...Look, this rhetorical stupidity, calling ones support of a politician akin to worshiping God, is just plain stupid...

I was pointing out that only Congress has the power to disburse money. All Trump can do is see if there is a way to move money around from already allocated programs and hope it isn't called out as a violation.

This part is absolutely true...However, you can't with a straight face tell us that Trump is so wrong for using a 'pen and a phone' when you cheered Obama saying and doing the exact same thing.

See, the framers of the Constitution put that power in the hands of the legislative, not the executive.

Full stop! I won't even entertain claims of alignment with the founders, or adherence to the Constitution, or protocol from liberals...

 

[LeftofLeft]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: President Trump calls for 'direct payments' to 'all Americans'

President Trump called for additional stimulus checks to be sent to Americans amid stalled talks with Democrats over a new bill to address various issues related to the coronavirus pandemic.

money.yahoo.com

Clearly, Congress is the holdup. Looks like Chuck and Nancy.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Remember, the modern day Democrat Party is run by radical Leftists. They need people suffering in order to gain and lock in power.

 

[Billy_Bob]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump just put the monkey on the democrats back and its a gorilla...

The longer it goes the bigger that gorilla gets... And Trump can just keep touting he is ready to go every day.....

 

[j-mac]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: President Trump calls for 'direct payments' to 'all Americans'

President Trump called for additional stimulus checks to be sent to Americans amid stalled talks with Democrats over a new bill to address various issues related to the coronavirus pandemic.

money.yahoo.com

But you'll cash your check, won't you?

Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money

So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

I disagree daveman is pointing out an obvious leftists hypocrisy
Jackieboy bitching about the money but yet will make his way to take the money and do whatever jackie boy does with money.

Well, yeah....What would be the alternative to that? Should Jack only do with the money what you say he should? And, would you agree to those terms with your money?

The Trump supporters missed the point of the post in the rush to defend their lord and savior and the attempt to create a distraction.

And to think I was actually defending you a little...Look, this rhetorical stupidity, calling ones support of a politician akin to worshiping God, is just plain stupid...

I was pointing out that only Congress has the power to disburse money. All Trump can do is see if there is a way to move money around from already allocated programs and hope it isn't called out as a violation.

This part is absolutely true...However, you can't with a straight face tell us that Trump is so wrong for using a 'pen and a phone' when you cheered Obama saying and doing the exact same thing.

See, the framers of the Constitution put that power in the hands of the legislative, not the executive.

Full stop! I won't even entertain claims of alignment with the founders, or adherence to the Constitution, or protocol from liberals...

Don't pay much attention to the Trump fawning on these boards or in right wing media do you?. Yes, it is abject worship. As I've said, Trump supporters keep finding ways to take stupid to levels I've never seen in my lifetime.
As far as power of the purse, here you go.

Power of the Purse | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

“All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.”— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 7, clause 1“No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law...

history.house.gov

 

[j-mac]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: President Trump calls for 'direct payments' to 'all Americans'

President Trump called for additional stimulus checks to be sent to Americans amid stalled talks with Democrats over a new bill to address various issues related to the coronavirus pandemic.

money.yahoo.com

But you'll cash your check, won't you?

Why shouldn't he, it's his money.

If he's a taxpayer yes but if not no he isn't
However, Daveman is pointing out that while jackie boy is bitching about Trump jackie boy will still take the money

So what? Daveman is setting up a fallacy....Look, we pay taxes into government, supposedly to do the things laid out that they are responsible for doing. The ship that they won't overstep that laid out in their enumerated powers has so long ago sailed, that at this point, why wouldn't anyone that recieves the stimulus money from the government not use that for the intended purposes? Unlike when we were told during the last administration that the trillion dollar stimulus was for infrastructure and ended up lining the pockets of Obama cronies....

I disagree daveman is pointing out an obvious leftists hypocrisy
Jackieboy bitching about the money but yet will make his way to take the money and do whatever jackie boy does with money.

Well, yeah....What would be the alternative to that? Should Jack only do with the money what you say he should? And, would you agree to those terms with your money?

The Trump supporters missed the point of the post in the rush to defend their lord and savior and the attempt to create a distraction.

And to think I was actually defending you a little...Look, this rhetorical stupidity, calling ones support of a politician akin to worshiping God, is just plain stupid...

I was pointing out that only Congress has the power to disburse money. All Trump can do is see if there is a way to move money around from already allocated programs and hope it isn't called out as a violation.

This part is absolutely true...However, you can't with a straight face tell us that Trump is so wrong for using a 'pen and a phone' when you cheered Obama saying and doing the exact same thing.

See, the framers of the Constitution put that power in the hands of the legislative, not the executive.

Full stop! I won't even entertain claims of alignment with the founders, or adherence to the Constitution, or protocol from liberals...

Don't pay much attention to the Trump fawning on these boards or in right wing media do you?. Yes, it is abject worship. As I've said, Trump supporters keep finding ways to take stupid to levels I've never seen in my lifetime.

Oh come on man....The problem is that any defense of what Trump does, is called something dumb, and over the top, like "worship" or some childish little nicknameish bull shit by you people...This is why a truly intellectual conversation these days is all but gone on boards like this.

As far as power of the purse, here you go.

Power of the Purse | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

“All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.”— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 7, clause 1“No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law...

history.house.gov

While I am glad that you libs have had reason to educate yourselves on how the process is supposed to work, I am not buying that you believe in the process unless it is convenient to work at cross purpose to your opponent...

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: President Trump calls for 'direct payments' to 'all Americans'

President Trump called for additional stimulus checks to be sent to Americans amid stalled talks with Democrats over a new bill to address various issues related to the coronavirus pandemic.

money.yahoo.com

Clearly, Congress is the holdup. Looks like Chuck and Nancy.

Except that the House passed their bill almost 3 months ago. And the Senate under Mitch and Crew...did nothing (as we've come to expect). Dems came down a trillion, it would be reasonable to think, the White House and Mitch would come up a trillion..but alas, Republicans demonstrate once again why they are incapable of governing. And now both houses are out on their summer recess until September 8th. Meanwhile, people suffer. Become par for the course under Republican rule. Best to just show as many of them the door as possible in November.

 

[LeftofLeft]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Once again, how times do you people need it explained to you? Congress holds the power of the purse. The only thing Trump can do is hope he can redirect the money from somewhere else..and not have it be illegal.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: President Trump calls for 'direct payments' to 'all Americans'

President Trump called for additional stimulus checks to be sent to Americans amid stalled talks with Democrats over a new bill to address various issues related to the coronavirus pandemic.

money.yahoo.com

Clearly, Congress is the holdup. Looks like Chuck and Nancy.

Except that the House passed their bill almost 3 months ago. And the Senate under Mitch and Crew...did nothing (as we've come to expect). Dems came down a trillion, it would be reasonable to think, the White House and Mitch would come up a trillion..but alas, Republicans demonstrate once again why they are incapable of governing. And now both houses are out on their summer recess until September 8th. Meanwhile, people suffer. Become par for the course under Republican rule. Best to just show as many of them the door as possible in November.

Except for nothing..... Democrats need suffering and strife in order to win.

 

[pknopp]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

No, it just doesn't make them hypocrites.

 

[j-mac]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

No, it just doesn't make them hypocrites.

Oh please, you want to talk about Democrat hypocrisy? There are plenty of examples, not the least of which was her position on the payroll tax holiday....

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi supported the payroll tax cut under former President Barack Obama but opposes it under President Donald Trump.

In the absence of a stimulus deal in Congress, Trump authorized a payroll tax deferral by executive order on Saturday. The order instructs the Treasury Department to look at forgiving the deferred taxes.

Pelosi referred to the executive action as unconstitutional and argued that the payroll tax cut will harm Social Security and Medicare.

"While he says he's going to do the payroll tax, what he's doing is undermining Social Security and Medicare, so these are illusions," Pelosi said on Sunday.

In 2010, Obama signed a payroll tax reduction, and Congress extended the cut in 2011 and 2012. Pelosi supported the payroll tax cut at the time.

"Today is a victory for all Americans — for the security of our middle class, for the health of our seniors, and for economic growth and job creation. The American people spoke out clearly and, thanks to President Obama's leadership, 160 million Americans will continue to receive their payroll tax cut," Pelosi said in a statement in 2011.

In 2012, Pelosi applauded the extension of Obama's payroll tax cut as "a temporary measure to help give us a boost."

Pelosi favored payroll tax cut under Obama as a ‘victory for all Americans,’ opposes it under Trump

The payroll tax was cut in 2010, under President Obama's leadership, and extended in 2011 and 2012.

justthenews.com

So, spare us all....

 

[pknopp]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

No, it just doesn't make them hypocrites.

Oh please, you want to talk about Democrat hypocrisy? There are plenty of examples, not the least of which was her position on the payroll tax holiday....

There is a ton of things you can slam the Democrats for over their hypocrisy. We are discussing the Republicans hypocrisy here.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

No, it just doesn't make them hypocrites.

Oh please, you want to talk about Democrat hypocrisy? There are plenty of examples, not the least of which was her position on the payroll tax holiday....

There is a ton of things you can slam the Democrats for over their hypocrisy. We are discussing the Republicans hypocrisy here.

The hypocrisy is from the leftists Trump does nothing they whine when he does something they whine
It's a no win situation for him. so he does something for the good of Americans and you whine
GO FUCK YOURSELF hypocrite

 

[pknopp]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

No, it just doesn't make them hypocrites.

Oh please, you want to talk about Democrat hypocrisy? There are plenty of examples, not the least of which was her position on the payroll tax holiday....

There is a ton of things you can slam the Democrats for over their hypocrisy. We are discussing the Republicans hypocrisy here.

The hypocrisy is from the leftists Trump does nothing they whine when he does something they whine
It's a no win situation for him. so he does something for the good of Americans and you whine
GO FUCK YOURSELF hypocrite

10 trillion in new debt in 4 years will be good for America?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

No, it just doesn't make them hypocrites.

Oh please, you want to talk about Democrat hypocrisy? There are plenty of examples, not the least of which was her position on the payroll tax holiday....

There is a ton of things you can slam the Democrats for over their hypocrisy. We are discussing the Republicans hypocrisy here.

The hypocrisy is from the leftists Trump does nothing they whine when he does something they whine
It's a no win situation for him. so he does something for the good of Americans and you whine
GO FUCK YOURSELF hypocrite

10 trillion in new debt in 4 years will be good for America?

Well when leftists shut the country down people had no food what in the fuck are you going to do?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

It is called vote buying.
And it is no less wrong than Democrats handing out money like parade candy to minorities.
It is deplorable for Trump to do this.
This money instead needs to go into the hands of small businesses that are literally collapsing all around us.
There was a reason why video game and streaming services went up well over 100% in June. People blew the fucking money and very little of it went into the economy.

 

[pknopp]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

Trump will gladly spend taxpayer money to help him get reelected.

LOL..since when did a Democrat care about spending money? Democrats wanted MUCH more money in this stimulus than the Republicans.

They don't pretend to care about the debt.

Oh, so that makes it ok?

No, it just doesn't make them hypocrites.

Oh please, you want to talk about Democrat hypocrisy? There are plenty of examples, not the least of which was her position on the payroll tax holiday....

There is a ton of things you can slam the Democrats for over their hypocrisy. We are discussing the Republicans hypocrisy here.

The hypocrisy is from the leftists Trump does nothing they whine when he does something they whine
It's a no win situation for him. so he does something for the good of Americans and you whine
GO FUCK YOURSELF hypocrite

10 trillion in new debt in 4 years will be good for America?

Well when leftists shut the country down people had no food what in the fuck are you going to do?

Be a president and lead. BTW, what you stated never happened.

 

[BlueGin]

This'll make a lot of people happy. Will Pelosi and Chuck Schumer oppose this? They'll look like fools if they do.

You are such a moron if you think this will happen. For the same reason the unemployment benefits won’t come through, the channel to get this money to the treasury does not exist. The only channel where this exists is through Congress - you know, the institution that actually funds this shit?

But what difference does it make to you right? The money won’t come and you’ll pretend Trump never said this and you’ll continue sucking his dick.

Is this like that 10% tax cut he promised the middle class tight before the 2018 midterms? I am wondering why he NEVER spoke of it again?

Remember that $ 21.00 tax cut Obama offered up that all you lefties pee’d yourself over?

 

[BlueGin]

Democrats hold up aid to Americans because they hate Americans and are doing what they can to make the Chinese bio weapon as painful for Americans as possible.

This is like when Democrats hid hurricane relief from hurricane victims and wrote stories how trump wasn't helping because he hates brown people.

'This is like when Democrats hid hurricane relief from hurricane victims'..I thought you needed to post a link when making a commnet like that?

Democrats are so brainwashed and stupid when I say what their party does, they deny it because they have no idea what's going on.

Google it.

Democrats hide hurricane relief from hurricane victims to blame trump.

Kind of how they are making the small business loans difficult to qualify for right now...