President Trump has been a remarkable leader

[P@triot]

How long until AntonToo properly thanks President Trump?

So, we were supposed to have a recession, a stock market collapse, poor gross domestic product, reduction in income. We didn’t have that, partly because we’ve never seen a tariff applied across the board to countries, especially that were running surpluses with the United States. And apparently, we can lower—and we never thought we could—this $1 trillion deficit.

The most effective leader since Ronald Reagan

Uncharted Territory: Conservatives Face Unprecedented Challenges

When you carry through on your promises, you’re in unknown territory, you’re “boldly going where no one has gone before.”

www.dailysignal.com

 

[Lesh]

How long until AntonToo properly thanks President Trump?

The most effective leader since Ronald Reagan

Uncharted Territory: Conservatives Face Unprecedented Challenges

When you carry through on your promises, you’re in unknown territory, you’re “boldly going where no one has gone before.”

www.dailysignal.com

What’s the air like on your planet?

 

[LibertyKid]

Those record revenue profits from Paris come out of the consumers pocket dope

No, those tariffs are paid by the countries paying us for our products. It works that way too. Dope.

 

[LibertyKid]

You couldn’t be more wrong.

A. A tax is imposed BY the government. Not on it. It’s imposed on US.
B. A tariff is no different than a sales tax.

In both cases you’re not forced to buy shit. In both cases shit costs more if you do.

Now stop babbling bullshit

You're only seeing one side of Tariffs and ignoring the other. Tariffs can be a revenue generator that doesn't come from the cost of goods being passed to the consumer. Yes, that is possible. But we can also be paid by other countries for the goods we import. You're holding onto only one side of the narrative and ignoring the other. As stated previously, tariffs were used for revenue generation long before we had a federal income tax.

Now for some reason, Dems and their cohorts believe in over taxation as something good when our founding Fathers literally left a tyrannical gov't because of it.

 

[Lesh]

You're only seeing one side of Tariffs and ignoring the other. Tariffs can be a revenue generator that doesn't come from the cost of goods being passed to the consumer. Yes, that is possible. But we can also be paid by other countries for the goods we import. You're holding onto only one side of the narrative and ignoring the other. As stated previously, tariffs were used for revenue generation long before we had a federal income tax.

Now for some reason, Dems and their cohorts believe in over taxation as something good when our founding Fathers literally left a tyrannical gov't because of it.

Tariffs by their very nature are designed to increase prices of foreign goods

Tariff - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In the words of none other than Milton Friedman “tariffs are great… and protecting higher consumer prices”

 

[LibertyKid]

Tariffs by their very nature are designed to increase prices of foreign goods

Tariff - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In the words of none other than Milton Friedman “tariffs are great… and protecting higher consumer prices”

Seriously, you can't be this ignorant. Yes, tariffs can increase our costs, but if the surplus keeps coming in, we should see a decrease in taxes needed to be paid by the people, and if that doesn't happen, everyone regardless of political side, should be pissed. The CNN article below states that many businesses are absorbing the cost of the tariff and not passing it along to the consumer, so your narrative is only partially correct. The federal gov't is raking in Billions right now. Hopefully that keeps up and maybe, us Americans can see our tax liabilities drop. But let me guess, that would be bad because it happened under Trump?

It's way too early to know what the long term impact is, but right now, we should all look and celebrate the immediate wins we are seeing from tariffs. Yet, I have a feeling despite the positive impact the left, and YOU will say "Orange man bad"!

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/business/trump-tariffs-how-much-money-debt.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/business/trump-tariffs-how-much-money-debt.html

 

[Lesh]

Seriously, you can't be this ignorant. Yes, tariffs can increase our costs, but if the surplus keeps coming in, we should see a decrease in taxes needed to be paid by the people, and if that doesn't happen, everyone regardless of political side, should be pissed. The CNN article below states that many businesses are absorbing the cost of the tariff and not passing it along to the consumer, so your narrative is only partially correct. The federal gov't is raking in Billions right now. Hopefully that keeps up and maybe, us Americans can see our tax liabilities drop. But let me guess, that would be bad because it happened under Trump?

It's way too early to know what the long term impact is, but right now, we should all look and celebrate the immediate wins we are seeing from tariffs. Yet, I have a feeling despite the positive impact the left, and YOU will say "Orange man bad"!

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/business/trump-tariffs-how-much-money-debt.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/business/trump-tariffs-how-much-money-debt.html

Dream on

 

[P@triot]

What’s the air like on your planet?

Well, since the left refuses to accept reality - and that’s the planet I will always reside on - I guess you will never know

 

[P@triot]

Tariffs by their very nature are designed to increase prices of foreign goods

So buy American until other nations agree to eliminate all tariffs so American companies have a level playing field. Problem solved.

Kind of sad you need that explained to you.

 

[LibertyKid]

Dream on

So you have not logical response of the facts currently given, but some snide remark. Typical response from the types of you.

 

[Lesh]

So you have not logical response of the facts currently given, but some snide remark. Typical response from the types of you.

Your premise is that even though these tariffs are an added cost to consumers (as you admit) somehow sometime in the future they will benefit us

Like I said… dream on

 

[LibertyKid]

Your premise is that even though these tariffs are an added cost to consumers (as you admit) somehow sometime in the future they will benefit us

Like I said… dream on

No, I stated that added costs can go back to the consumer and as I stated, not all tariffs are being passed back to the consumer as per the one article.
There is the potential that if Tariffs continue to bring in the Billions of dollars a month, that they currently are, tariffs could offset the tax payers responsibility as the primary funds for revenue to the Gov't, reducing the taxes we pay. Is that a bad thing?

The anti trust the gov't guy in me says, it won't happen. And then if it doesn't happen, we should all be pissed as to why the Federal gov't is racking in billions a month in tariffs and our tax liability hasn't decreased and where is that money being spent.

But we should all admit that the initial data is that tariffs are bringing in record revenue, which is a good thing for the American people, especially if costs to Americans isn't as bad initially touted by the left, and if we can start using those funds to bring down the national debt and then our own tax liability, fund SS, subsidize health care to lower costs, fund better education.

 

[Lesh]

No, I stated that added costs can go back to the consumer and as I stated, not all tariffs are being passed back to the consumer as per the one article.
There is the potential that if Tariffs continue to bring in the Billions of dollars a month, that they currently are, tariffs could offset the tax payers responsibility as the primary funds for revenue to the Gov't, reducing the taxes we pay. Is that a bad thing?

The anti trust the gov't guy in me says, it won't happen. And then if it doesn't happen, we should all be pissed as to why the Federal gov't is racking in billions a month in tariffs and our tax liability hasn't decreased and where is that money being spent.

But we should all admit that the initial data is that tariffs are bringing in record revenue, which is a good thing for the American people, especially if costs to Americans isn't as bad initially touted by the left, and if we can start using those funds to bring down the national debt and then our own tax liability, fund SS, subsidize health care to lower costs, fund better education.

“Tariffs could offset…”

Except they don’t

 

[P@triot]

Your premise is that even though these tariffs are an added cost to consumers (as you admit) somehow sometime in the future they will benefit us

1. It’s not an “added cost to consumers” because consumers have choice in the free market (which is why the fascist left loathes the free market)
2. They benefited us in Trump’s first term in an enormous way and they are already benefiting us again this early in his second term

If the left could do anything as well as they deny reality, they would all be successful people instead of being a drag on society.

US collects $29B in tariff revenues in July, setting new monthly record

The U.S. collected more than $29 billion in tariff revenues in July, the highest monthly total to date so far this year, bringing the total to $152 billion.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[AntonToo]

1. It’s not an “added cost to consumers”

Can you find even a single economist that doesn't think you are full of shit?

 

[P@triot]

Can you find even a single economist that doesn't think you are full of shit?

Your problem is you cannot distinguish between actual economists and political activists like Paul Krugman posing as “economists”

 

[P@triot]

Can you find even a single economist that doesn't think you are full of shit?

Are you embarrassed yet? Asking for a friend.

US collects $29B in tariff revenues in July, setting new monthly record

The U.S. collected more than $29 billion in tariff revenues in July, the highest monthly total to date so far this year, bringing the total to $152 billion.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[MarathonMike]

Yep...he's the best president millionaires have ever had in modern times. Unfortunately, those of us who are not millionaires are seeing no benefit to whatever you think he's gotten "done".

You are ignoring the tax changes he specifically made to help low wage workers. His tariff policies are forcing companies to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

 

[AntonToo]

Are you embarrassed yet? Asking for a friend.

US collects $29B in tariff revenues in July, setting new monthly record

The U.S. collected more than $29 billion in tariff revenues in July, the highest monthly total to date so far this year, bringing the total to $152 billion.

www.foxbusiness.com

Embarassed of what? That taxes generate revenues?

You are damaged in the head.

And the correct answer to what you quoted is NO, there are no serious economists that think that broad tariffs don't raise consumer prices.

 

[Mac1958]

“Tariffs could offset…”

Except they don’t

I don't think they understand how this works.