President Trump Had A Horrible Mother's Day Speech

[g5000]

So who won? The dead Ayatollahs or the cardboard guy?

I apologize that this exceeds the MAGA intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker:

Defeat in the present confrontation with Iran will be of an entirely different character. It can neither be repaired nor ignored. There will be no return to the status quo ante, no ultimate American triumph that will undo or overcome the harm done. The Strait of Hormuz will not be “open,” as it once was. With control of the strait, Iran emerges as the key player in the region and one of the key players in the world. The roles of China and Russia, as Iran’s allies, are strengthened; the role of the United States, substantially diminished. Far from demonstrating American prowess, as supporters of the war have repeatedly claimed, the conflict has revealed an America that is unreliable and incapable of finishing what it started. That is going to set off a chain reaction around the world as friends and foes adjust to America’s failure.

[snip]

Some supporters of the war are therefore calling for the resumption of military strikes, but they cannot explain how another round of bombing will accomplish what 37 days of bombing did not. More military action will inevitably lead Iran to retaliate against neighboring Gulf States; the war’s advocates have no response to that, either. Trump halted attacks on Iran not because he was bored but because Iran was striking the region’s vital oil and gas facilities. The turning point came on March 18, when Israel bombed Iran’s South Pars gas field and Iran retaliated by attacking Qatar’s Ras Laffan Industrial City, the world’s largest natural-gas-export plant, causing damage to production capacity that will take years to repair. Trump responded by declaring a moratorium on further strikes against Iran’s energy facilities and then declaring a cease-fire, despite Iran’s not having made a single concession.

The risk calculus that forced Trump to back down a month ago still holds. Even if Trump were to carry out his threat to destroy Iran’s “civilization” through more bombing, Iran would still be able to launch many missiles and drones before its regime went down—assuming it did go down. Just a few successful strikes could cripple the region’s oil and gas infrastructure for years if not decades, throwing the world, and the United States, into a prolonged economic crisis. Even if Trump wanted to bomb Iran as part of an exit strategy—looking tough as a way of masking his retreat—he can’t do that without risking this catastrophe.

If this isn’t checkmate, it’s close. In recent days, Trump has reportedly asked the U.S. intelligence community to assess the consequences of simply declaring victory and walking away. You can’t blame him. Hoping for regime collapse is not much of a strategy, especially when the regime has already survived repeated military and economic pummeling.

Checkmate in Iran​

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[Superbadbrutha]

I mean don't get me wrong, I currently think that he's doing a great job when it comes to the ballroom and the war and Iran but what in the world does that have to do with Mother's Day? That was only a tiny part of his speech. Ah well, great president but as Robert W has already said multiple times on here before. He talks WAYYYY too long and more about himself than anything else.

That's because you're an idiot.

 

[markef]

I apologize that this exceeds the MAGA intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker:

Defeat in the present confrontation with Iran will be of an entirely different character. It can neither be repaired nor ignored. There will be no return to the status quo ante, no ultimate American triumph that will undo or overcome the harm done. The Strait of Hormuz will not be “open,” as it once was. With control of the strait, Iran emerges as the key player in the region and one of the key players in the world. The roles of China and Russia, as Iran’s allies, are strengthened; the role of the United States, substantially diminished. Far from demonstrating American prowess, as supporters of the war have repeatedly claimed, the conflict has revealed an America that is unreliable and incapable of finishing what it started. That is going to set off a chain reaction around the world as friends and foes adjust to America’s failure.

[snip]

Some supporters of the war are therefore calling for the resumption of military strikes, but they cannot explain how another round of bombing will accomplish what 37 days of bombing did not. More military action will inevitably lead Iran to retaliate against neighboring Gulf States; the war’s advocates have no response to that, either. Trump halted attacks on Iran not because he was bored but because Iran was striking the region’s vital oil and gas facilities. The turning point came on March 18, when Israel bombed Iran’s South Pars gas field and Iran retaliated by attacking Qatar’s Ras Laffan Industrial City, the world’s largest natural-gas-export plant, causing damage to production capacity that will take years to repair. Trump responded by declaring a moratorium on further strikes against Iran’s energy facilities and then declaring a cease-fire, despite Iran’s not having made a single concession.

The risk calculus that forced Trump to back down a month ago still holds. Even if Trump were to carry out his threat to destroy Iran’s “civilization” through more bombing, Iran would still be able to launch many missiles and drones before its regime went down—assuming it did go down. Just a few successful strikes could cripple the region’s oil and gas infrastructure for years if not decades, throwing the world, and the United States, into a prolonged economic crisis. Even if Trump wanted to bomb Iran as part of an exit strategy—looking tough as a way of masking his retreat—he can’t do that without risking this catastrophe.

If this isn’t checkmate, it’s close. In recent days, Trump has reportedly asked the U.S. intelligence community to assess the consequences of simply declaring victory and walking away. You can’t blame him. Hoping for regime collapse is not much of a strategy, especially when the regime has already survived repeated military and economic pummeling.

Checkmate in Iran​

​

Lefties defend American enemies as though America is evil.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The way I said it, it was clear that it would be Trump or Melania putting it on his chest. A device to promote self control. Like wearing a watrch to see what time it is.

LoL! How was that clear?

I wish he had a device on his chest that when he yaps about himself, the device socks him in his face.

Here is a fact. I have defended Trump for every moment he has been president. I voted for the man 3 times. I have wished for years he stopped helping the press butcher him. I defended him when he had the election stolen from him. Yes, I am positive it was stolen.

Did you not recognize early on that sometimes his mouth runs away with him and that it would be better if he stayed off the Twitter at 2:00 AM? I said that before he was elected for the first time. You're just realizing this now?

It's very odd that suddenly there are all these "Trump supporters," who are coming on just to join the chorus of Trump criticism.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That's a posed photo.

Normally, he is safe behind walls made of U.S. supplied hundred dollar bill bundles.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I apologize that this exceeds the MAGA intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker:

Defeat in the present confrontation with Iran will be of an entirely different character. It can neither be repaired nor ignored. There will be no return to the status quo ante, no ultimate American triumph that will undo or overcome the harm done. The Strait of Hormuz will not be “open,” as it once was. With control of the strait, Iran emerges as the key player in the region and one of the key players in the world. The roles of China and Russia, as Iran’s allies, are strengthened; the role of the United States, substantially diminished. Far from demonstrating American prowess, as supporters of the war have repeatedly claimed, the conflict has revealed an America that is unreliable and incapable of finishing what it started. That is going to set off a chain reaction around the world as friends and foes adjust to America’s failure.

[snip]

Some supporters of the war are therefore calling for the resumption of military strikes, but they cannot explain how another round of bombing will accomplish what 37 days of bombing did not. More military action will inevitably lead Iran to retaliate against neighboring Gulf States; the war’s advocates have no response to that, either. Trump halted attacks on Iran not because he was bored but because Iran was striking the region’s vital oil and gas facilities. The turning point came on March 18, when Israel bombed Iran’s South Pars gas field and Iran retaliated by attacking Qatar’s Ras Laffan Industrial City, the world’s largest natural-gas-export plant, causing damage to production capacity that will take years to repair. Trump responded by declaring a moratorium on further strikes against Iran’s energy facilities and then declaring a cease-fire, despite Iran’s not having made a single concession.

The risk calculus that forced Trump to back down a month ago still holds. Even if Trump were to carry out his threat to destroy Iran’s “civilization” through more bombing, Iran would still be able to launch many missiles and drones before its regime went down—assuming it did go down. Just a few successful strikes could cripple the region’s oil and gas infrastructure for years if not decades, throwing the world, and the United States, into a prolonged economic crisis. Even if Trump wanted to bomb Iran as part of an exit strategy—looking tough as a way of masking his retreat—he can’t do that without risking this catastrophe.

If this isn’t checkmate, it’s close. In recent days, Trump has reportedly asked the U.S. intelligence community to assess the consequences of simply declaring victory and walking away. You can’t blame him. Hoping for regime collapse is not much of a strategy, especially when the regime has already survived repeated military and economic pummeling.

Checkmate in Iran​

​

I certainly dont have the patience to wade through that unsourced prap.

Just cut to the chase and say who won, what the won and how they won it.

 

[Robert W]

I apologize that this exceeds the MAGA intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker:

See post #101 for a good example of a leftist's bumper sticker.

 

[ChristisKing]

I spent morhers day doing three things: remembering my departed mother, encouraging my wife to contact her mother in Virginia, and visiting my daughter who became a new mother 5 weeks ago.

I spent zero emotional energy obsessing over Donald Trump's personality quirks.

To each their own . . .

You make it seem like I don't have a life or something.

Exactly. Mother's Day isn't political except for loons trying to make it so

Again, I'm not making it political, Trump did by bringing it up.

Personally, I think you take politics way too seriously. Take a deep breath, go out to a movie and eat some popcorn, drink a soda, and take a day or two off politics and don't stress out over everything Trump. Who really cares if he had a bad Mother's day speech?

Umm here's a newsflash for you, if Trump had had an awesome speech I would have posted about that instead, but he didn't. I already mentioned that Melania did because she made it about mothers and wasn't bragging about herself.

Horrible people make horrible speeches.

Trump isn't a horrible person, just not the kind of person that I would invite to a dinner party. That's not why I voted for him though.

No one cares what SatanLady from Canada thinks.

I don't really care about what anybody on here actually thinks about me because it's the Internet. Love me or hate me how is that going to affect my personal life?

LoL! How was that clear?

Well considering the fact that you're the only person complaining about it I'm pretty sure that it was clear to everybody else what he meant.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You make it seem like I don't have a life or something.

I'm sure you have a wonderful life that is both full and fullfilling.

I recommend you live it and wean yourself off of this Trump obsession you've developed.

Well considering the fact that you're the only person complaining about it I'm pretty sure that it was clear to everybody else what he meant.

I'm not complaining, I'm trying to help him learn.

I'm a Special Education teacher used to what others consider hopeless cases. That is more likely to be the reason nobody else mentioned it, not that he did not say what he clearly said.

Remember, RobertW's fantasy was not violence against Trump when he said something cruel, stupid, mean, or wrong. It was violence against Trump anytime he says something about himself.

 

[g5000]

I mean don't get me wrong, I currently think that he's doing a great job when it comes to the ballroom and the war and Iran but what in the world does that have to do with Mother's Day?

After Trump's incredibly profane Easter message, you're still caught by surprise by him?

Really?

 

[ChristisKing]

I'm sure you have a wonderful life that is both full and fullfilling.

I recommend you live it and wean yourself off of this Trump obsession you've developed.

I'm not complaining, I'm trying to help him learn.

I'm a Special Education teacher used to what others consider hopeless cases. That is more likely to be the reason nobody else mentioned it, not that he did not say what he clearly said.

Remember, RobertW's fantasy was not violence against Trump when he said something cruel, stupid, mean, or wrong. It was violence against Trump anytime he says something about himself.

By a self-inflicting device that doesn't even exist and that he just simply stated to make a joke about. As for an obsession, how is it an obsession when I specifically said that had he had an awesome speech I would have posted about that instead but it stunk like a skunk that had a can of beans for dinner. I'm not going to lie and say that it didn't.

After Trump's incredibly profane Easter message, you're still caught by surprise by him?

Really?

No, not really. You're right. That's not why I voted for him though.

 

[Seymour Flops]

By a self-inflicting device that doesn't even exist and that he just simply stated to make a joke about. As for an obsession, how is it an obsession when I specifically said that had he had an awesome speech I would have posted about that instead but it stunk like a skunk that had a can of beans for dinner. I'm not going to lie and say that it didn't.

Then let Robert say he was joking, not make an absurd claim like "oh it would be Trump or Melania that put the device on him."

Unfortunately for RobertW, a device like that would not shut Trump up.

The RobertW's of the world shot him (with poor aim, admittedly) and he still did not shut up.

 

[ChristisKing]

Then let Robert say he was joking, not make an absurd claim like "oh it would be Trump or Melania that put the device on him."

Unfortunately for RobertW, a device like that would not shut Trump up.

The RobertW's of the world shot him (with poor aim, admittedly) and he still did not shut up.

Although I will give you the credit for saying that it probably wouldn't shut him up, Robert never said anything about shooting him. Otherwise I wouldn't have laughed and defended him.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Although I will give you the credit for saying that it probably wouldn't shut him up, Robert never said anything about shooting him. Otherwise I wouldn't have laughed and defended him.

He's joining the chorus of "funny comedians" "jokingly" wishing violence on Donald Trump.

He should try out to replace Kimmel.

 

[ChristisKing]

He's joining the chorus of "funny comedians" "jokingly" wishing violence on Donald Trump.

He should try out to replace Kimmel.

Okay, okay so I admit that the joke might have been in poor taste (possibly) but he never said anything about shooting the president. Besides, can we just drop it now that was yesterday.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Okay, okay so I admit that the joke might have been in poor taste (possibly) but he never said anything about shooting the president. Besides, can we just drop it now that was yesterday.

Please do.

Hopefully Robert finally has it out of his system also.

Hope your mother's day was nice other than that one blemish!

I don't know if you have any kids, but if you're a woman over the age of 14, chances are you're mothering someone.

 

[citygator]

I mean don't get me wrong, I currently think that he's doing a great job when it comes to the ballroom and the war and Iran but what in the world does that have to do with Mother's Day? That was only a tiny part of his speech. Ah well, great president but as Robert W has already said multiple times on here before. He talks WAYYYY too long and more about himself than anything else.

Hilarious. You should do standup.

 

[ChristisKing]

Please do.

Hopefully Robert finally has it out of his system also.

Hope your mother's day was nice other than that one blemish!

I don't know if you have any kids, but if you're a woman over the age of 14, chances are you're mothering someone.

Uh yes that's good but no I don't have any kids yet. What makes you say that?

Hilarious. You should do standup.

What was the funny part? The video, post, or both?

 

[citygator]

What was the funny part? The video, post, or both?

The ballroom and Iran war comment was understated humor at its best. Great deadpan delivery. Bravo.