No preoccupation. I just think it's pretty silly. Isn't it actually more work picking individual squares of tp from a pre-torn pile, than simply unrolling what you need?
see, you did it again. You projected your idea of "work" onto the religious rules that don't say that.
no, the Hebrew word simply means "and she gave". Whatever else you want it to mean just isn't there. Look at the Hebrew.
Here are the choices that I pick from. I bolded the two choices that best fit the narrative.
Can you point to other instances of the word's use to mean this?Here are the choices that I pick from. I bolded the two choices that best fit the narrative.
נָתַן
Transliteration
nāṯan
Pronunciation
naw-than'
Part of Speech
verb
Root Word (Etymology)
A primitive root
Dictionary Aids
TWOT Reference: 1443
KJV Translation Count — Total: 2,008x
The KJV translates Strong's H5414 in the following manner: give (1,078x), put (191x), deliver (174x), made (107x), set (99x), up (26x), lay (22x), grant (21x), suffer (18x), yield (15x), bring (15x), cause (13x), utter (12x), laid (11x), send (11x), recompense (11x), appoint (10x), shew (7x), miscellaneous (167x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
- to give, put, set
- (Qal)
- to give, bestow, grant, permit, ascribe, employ, devote, consecrate, dedicate, pay wages, sell, exchange, lend, commit, entrust, give over, deliver up, yield produce, occasion, produce, requite to, report, mention, utter, stretch out, extend
- to put, set, put on, put upon, set, appoint, assign, designate
- to make, constitute
- (Niphal)
- to be given, be bestowed, be provided, be entrusted to, be granted to, be permitted, be issued, be published, be uttered, be assigned
- to be set, be put, be made, be inflicted
- (Hophal)
- to be given, be bestowed, be given up, be delivered up
- to be put upon
Not offhand, but as you can see the word is used in a variety of different ways depending on the context. The way I used it would fall under 'miscellaneous'.
Can you give me another example of a "miscellaneous " use?
Eve wasn't the serpent. The serpent was in Eve's head, just like demons are in the heads of billions of people today. I used the Hebrew to show that God was speaking to Eve when he said "you shall eat dust and go on your belly". You never studied it but dismissed it out of hand. Snakes don't eat dirt, women do. Snakes don't give birth vaginally, women do.
but you see, that's the problem. It doesn't stand out -- it is a simple use of a simple verb. It means what it says -- deciding it means otherwise with no explanation as to HOW (not "why") is useless.
Textually, the words say that God was speaking to the serpent, not Eve.Women don't travel on their bellies nor do they stick their tongues out to seemingly taste the dust around them. Snakes do. If you want to discuss the hebrew here, that's fine.
Snake don't purposely consumer dirt, women do. The word "belly" means "to give birth from the womb". Snakes don't do that. God had more to say about childbirth as well in the same discourse.
Snakes stick their tongues out to taste chemical signals in the air given off by prey.
you can't even read it until someone else translates it for you...
some women (and some others) have pica. That's a medical condition. Snakes stay on their bellies and flick their tongue out while slithering in the dirt.
no, it doesn't. The Hebrew word here is gachon
Genesis Rabbah, 20:5
sure, and you can learn what the dictionary composer thought. Wouldn't it make more sense to learn the actual language?
I gave you the word, gachon. Its meaning is "belly." What more are you looking for? If you think that there is a different word for belly, let me know -- I can read the Hebrew so I can find it.
