Post World War II Germany built statues of those who were imprisoned in concentration camps

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

At what point, is it going “too far“ when it comes to these memorials?

There are some facts to consider:

Many of those ”memorials” were mass produced long after war, and erected during times During times of racial tensions. They were erected with no discussion.

AHA Statement on Confederate Monuments | Perspectives on History | AHA

Understanding the specific historical context of Confederate monuments in America is imperative to informed public debate. Historians who specialize in this period have done careful and nuanced research to understand and explain this context. Drawing on their expertise enables us to assess the original intentions of those who erected the monuments, and how the monuments have functioned as symbols over time. The bulk of the monument building took place not in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War but from the close of the 19th century into the second decade of the 20th. Commemorating not just the Confederacy but also the “Redemption” of the South after Reconstruction, this enterprise was part and parcel of the initiation of legally mandated segregation and widespread disenfranchisement across the South. Memorials to the Confederacy were intended, in part, to obscure the terrorism required to overthrow Reconstruction, and to intimidate African Americans politically and isolate them from the mainstream of public life. A reprise of commemoration during the mid-20th century coincided with the Civil Rights Movement and included a wave of renaming and the popularization of the Confederate flag as a political symbol. Events in Charlottesville and elsewhere indicate that these symbols of white supremacy are still being invoked for similar purposes.

Monuments were erected in states that played no part in the war or did even exist in the war.

Given this background, why are we fighting to retain them, when they, as intended, function as a reminder of enslavement, segregation, and loss to a siginfo ant proportion of American citizenry?

These aren’t monuments on historical sites and battlefields.

Many were placed as the most of the veterans were dying off (around 1900-1915). Others were placed on or about the 100th Anniversary.

Hell, we JUST BARELY got a WWII war memorial in DC.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

Speaking of “getting in the way of a good narrative” can you address why they were put in states that either did not exist or did not participate in the war? Why were they mass produced? Why did their placement coincide with major racial events? Why were only confederate monuments spread like this?

Thank you. I look forward to YOUR narrative

FINE, THEN TEAR DOWN the monuments in places that DO NOT have a significant population of descendants whose ancestors fought in that war, to no benefit of their own!!!

I.E. NOT CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA!!!

 

[odanny]

Post World War II Germany built statues of those who were imprisoned in concentration camps.
The statues help tell the story of what happened in the concentration camps and helps make sure this chapter of their history is never repeated.
They did not build statues glorifying the soldiers and politicians of the time.

The US should learn from Germany.

Statues built based on lies to make a proud people The Germans feel guilt for trying to free their country from the grip of the Jew. Hopefully they get torn down

You're a fucking retard, has anyone ever told you this?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

So, flying the Mexican flag would be the same thing, right?

Both Texas and the United States were at war with Mexico at one point in time. AND WE WON!!!

And California, cor that matter.

So YOU don't wanna see another motherfucking Mexican flag flown anywhere in the U.S.?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

It would be like flying an ISIS flag.

Or the Mexican Flag???

Or the Communist Flag???

The defense rests, your honor.

 

[Coyote]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

It would be like flying an ISIS flag.

Or the Mexican Flag???

Or the Communist Flag???

The defense rests, your honor.

The Mexican flag is just another nation’s flag. So what? A
At our Italian heritage festival I see a ton of Italian flags. There is no such thing as a ”communist” flag. I hope you didnt pay your defense too much.

 

[Coyote]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

So, flying the Mexican flag would be the same thing, right?

Both Texas and the United States were at war with Mexico at one point in time. AND WE WON!!!

And California, cor that matter.

So YOU don't wanna see another motherfucking Mexican flag flown anywhere in the U.S.?

Mexico is a sovereign nation that was never part of tbe US. The Confederacy was a portion of the US that committed treason.

Any other false equivalencies you would like to throw in?

 

[Coyote]

At what point, is it going “too far“ when it comes to these memorials?

There are some facts to consider:

Many of those ”memorials” were mass produced long after war, and erected during times During times of racial tensions. They were erected with no discussion.

AHA Statement on Confederate Monuments | Perspectives on History | AHA

Understanding the specific historical context of Confederate monuments in America is imperative to informed public debate. Historians who specialize in this period have done careful and nuanced research to understand and explain this context. Drawing on their expertise enables us to assess the original intentions of those who erected the monuments, and how the monuments have functioned as symbols over time. The bulk of the monument building took place not in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War but from the close of the 19th century into the second decade of the 20th. Commemorating not just the Confederacy but also the “Redemption” of the South after Reconstruction, this enterprise was part and parcel of the initiation of legally mandated segregation and widespread disenfranchisement across the South. Memorials to the Confederacy were intended, in part, to obscure the terrorism required to overthrow Reconstruction, and to intimidate African Americans politically and isolate them from the mainstream of public life. A reprise of commemoration during the mid-20th century coincided with the Civil Rights Movement and included a wave of renaming and the popularization of the Confederate flag as a political symbol. Events in Charlottesville and elsewhere indicate that these symbols of white supremacy are still being invoked for similar purposes.

Monuments were erected in states that played no part in the war or did even exist in the war.

Given this background, why are we fighting to retain them, when they, as intended, function as a reminder of enslavement, segregation, and loss to a siginfo ant proportion of American citizenry?

These aren’t monuments on historical sites and battlefields.

Many were placed as the most of the veterans were dying off (around 1900-1915). Others were placed on or about the 100th Anniversary.

Hell, we JUST BARELY got a WWII war memorial in DC.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

Speaking of “getting in the way of a good narrative” can you address why they were put in states that either did not exist or did not participate in the war? Why were they mass produced? Why did their placement coincide with major racial events? Why were only confederate monuments spread like this?

Thank you. I look forward to YOUR narrative

FINE, THEN TEAR DOWN the monuments in places that DO NOT have a significant population of descendants whose ancestors fought in that war, to no benefit of their own!!!

I.E. NOT CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA!!!

Why not?

Frankly I know of no other nation that commeratio the LOSERS of a civil war. Those monuments belong in the battlefield parks, in the context of the history they were a part of.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Post World War II Germany built statues of those who were imprisoned in concentration camps.
The statues help tell the story of what happened in the concentration camps and helps make sure this chapter of their history is never repeated.
They did not build statues glorifying the soldiers and politicians of the time.

The US should learn from Germany.

Which side of post-ww2 Germany was that?
-Somebody that remembers how it was.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

At what point, is it going “too far“ when it comes to these memorials?

There are some facts to consider:

Many of those ”memorials” were mass produced long after war, and erected during times During times of racial tensions. They were erected with no discussion.

AHA Statement on Confederate Monuments | Perspectives on History | AHA

Understanding the specific historical context of Confederate monuments in America is imperative to informed public debate. Historians who specialize in this period have done careful and nuanced research to understand and explain this context. Drawing on their expertise enables us to assess the original intentions of those who erected the monuments, and how the monuments have functioned as symbols over time. The bulk of the monument building took place not in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War but from the close of the 19th century into the second decade of the 20th. Commemorating not just the Confederacy but also the “Redemption” of the South after Reconstruction, this enterprise was part and parcel of the initiation of legally mandated segregation and widespread disenfranchisement across the South. Memorials to the Confederacy were intended, in part, to obscure the terrorism required to overthrow Reconstruction, and to intimidate African Americans politically and isolate them from the mainstream of public life. A reprise of commemoration during the mid-20th century coincided with the Civil Rights Movement and included a wave of renaming and the popularization of the Confederate flag as a political symbol. Events in Charlottesville and elsewhere indicate that these symbols of white supremacy are still being invoked for similar purposes.

Monuments were erected in states that played no part in the war or did even exist in the war.

Given this background, why are we fighting to retain them, when they, as intended, function as a reminder of enslavement, segregation, and loss to a siginfo ant proportion of American citizenry?

These aren’t monuments on historical sites and battlefields.

Many were placed as the most of the veterans were dying off (around 1900-1915). Others were placed on or about the 100th Anniversary.

Hell, we JUST BARELY got a WWII war memorial in DC.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

Speaking of “getting in the way of a good narrative” can you address why they were put in states that either did not exist or did not participate in the war? Why were they mass produced? Why did their placement coincide with major racial events? Why were only confederate monuments spread like this?

Thank you. I look forward to YOUR narrative

FINE, THEN TEAR DOWN the monuments in places that DO NOT have a significant population of descendants whose ancestors fought in that war, to no benefit of their own!!!

I.E. NOT CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA!!!

Why not?

Frankly I know of no other nation that commeratio the LOSERS of a civil war. Those monuments belong in the battlefield parks, in the context of the history they were a part of.

because we agreed to reconcile.

If we are taking that off the table and going back to being outcasts and not reconciled with the United States, then fine. The war is back on.

And as far as you are concerned, fuck all those poor young kids who owned no slaves but who were conscripted into a war and fought only because it was their duty to do so, right?

Rip all of those fucking memorials down, and shit on all of their ancestors living in the same town. Right?

Anyone proposing that can kindly fuck the fuck off.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.he...tatue-honors-confederate-dead?template=ampart

 

[ElmerMudd]

Post World War II Germany built statues of those who were imprisoned in concentration camps.
The statues help tell the story of what happened in the concentration camps and helps make sure this chapter of their history is never repeated.
They did not build statues glorifying the soldiers and politicians of the time.

The US should learn from Germany.

Which side of post-ww2 Germany was that?
-Somebody that remembers how it was.

Marion, why do use a flag that screams loser on your blog. The confederacy attacked the USA and tried to break up our country. The morals that drove them included maintaining slavery. And they lost big time. They lost so big the confederacy went away.The flag screams LOSER.
Why don't you have a L tattooed on your forehead.

 

[ElmerMudd]

At what point, is it going “too far“ when it comes to these memorials?

There are some facts to consider:

Many of those ”memorials” were mass produced long after war, and erected during times During times of racial tensions. They were erected with no discussion.

AHA Statement on Confederate Monuments | Perspectives on History | AHA

Understanding the specific historical context of Confederate monuments in America is imperative to informed public debate. Historians who specialize in this period have done careful and nuanced research to understand and explain this context. Drawing on their expertise enables us to assess the original intentions of those who erected the monuments, and how the monuments have functioned as symbols over time. The bulk of the monument building took place not in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War but from the close of the 19th century into the second decade of the 20th. Commemorating not just the Confederacy but also the “Redemption” of the South after Reconstruction, this enterprise was part and parcel of the initiation of legally mandated segregation and widespread disenfranchisement across the South. Memorials to the Confederacy were intended, in part, to obscure the terrorism required to overthrow Reconstruction, and to intimidate African Americans politically and isolate them from the mainstream of public life. A reprise of commemoration during the mid-20th century coincided with the Civil Rights Movement and included a wave of renaming and the popularization of the Confederate flag as a political symbol. Events in Charlottesville and elsewhere indicate that these symbols of white supremacy are still being invoked for similar purposes.

Monuments were erected in states that played no part in the war or did even exist in the war.

Given this background, why are we fighting to retain them, when they, as intended, function as a reminder of enslavement, segregation, and loss to a siginfo ant proportion of American citizenry?

These aren’t monuments on historical sites and battlefields.

Many were placed as the most of the veterans were dying off (around 1900-1915). Others were placed on or about the 100th Anniversary.

Hell, we JUST BARELY got a WWII war memorial in DC.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

Speaking of “getting in the way of a good narrative” can you address why they were put in states that either did not exist or did not participate in the war? Why were they mass produced? Why did their placement coincide with major racial events? Why were only confederate monuments spread like this?

Thank you. I look forward to YOUR narrative

FINE, THEN TEAR DOWN the monuments in places that DO NOT have a significant population of descendants whose ancestors fought in that war, to no benefit of their own!!!

I.E. NOT CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA!!!

Why not?

Frankly I know of no other nation that commeratio the LOSERS of a civil war. Those monuments belong in the battlefield parks, in the context of the history they were a part of.

because we agreed to reconcile.

If we are taking that off the table and going back to being outcasts and not reconciled with the United States, then fine. The war is back on.

And as far as you are concerned, fuck all those poor young kids who owned no slaves but who were conscripted into a war and fought only because it was their duty to do so, right?

Rip all of those fucking memorials down, and shit on all of their ancestors living in the same town. Right?

Anyone proposing that can kindly fuck the fuck off.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.he...tatue-honors-confederate-dead?template=ampart

OK, you have convinced me we should allow statues of losers.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Post World War II Germany built statues of those who were imprisoned in concentration camps.
The statues help tell the story of what happened in the concentration camps and helps make sure this chapter of their history is never repeated.
They did not build statues glorifying the soldiers and politicians of the time.

The US should learn from Germany.

Which side of post-ww2 Germany was that?
-Somebody that remembers how it was.

Marion, why do use a flag that screams loser on your blog. The confederacy attacked the USA and tried to break up our country. The morals that drove them included maintaining slavery. And they lost big time. They lost so big the confederacy went away.The flag screams LOSER.
Why don't you have a L tattooed on your forehead.

Why do your fellow Democrat voters wave the Mexican and communist flag? Both were a bunch of losers to the US.

Get the motte out of your own eye, cocksucker

 

[Marion Morrison]

Post World War II Germany built statues of those who were imprisoned in concentration camps.
The statues help tell the story of what happened in the concentration camps and helps make sure this chapter of their history is never repeated.
They did not build statues glorifying the soldiers and politicians of the time.

The US should learn from Germany.

Which side of post-ww2 Germany was that?
-Somebody that remembers how it was.

Marion, why do use a flag that screams loser on your blog. The confederacy attacked the USA and tried to break up our country. The morals that drove them included maintaining slavery. And they lost big time. They lost so big the confederacy went away.The flag screams LOSER.
Why don't you have a L tattooed on your forehead.

Because of faggots just like you!
I like to get you all triggered up and then kick you right in your ass!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

So, flying the Mexican flag would be the same thing, right?

Both Texas and the United States were at war with Mexico at one point in time. AND WE WON!!!

And California, cor that matter.

So YOU don't wanna see another motherfucking Mexican flag flown anywhere in the U.S.?

Mexico is a sovereign nation that was never part of tbe US. The Confederacy was a portion of the US that committed treason.

Any other false equivalencies you would like to throw in?

false equivalency?



Do you know the reason we had a war called the Texas War of Independence, and another war called the Mexican-American war?

Do tell the class what you think was the reason for those two separate wars with Mexico. And let's not forget how California came into the union too.

(hint: Something about one state being part of another country, and a war happening because of treason/rebellion and some other shit)

 

[Coyote]

At what point, is it going “too far“ when it comes to these memorials?

There are some facts to consider:

Many of those ”memorials” were mass produced long after war, and erected during times During times of racial tensions. They were erected with no discussion.

AHA Statement on Confederate Monuments | Perspectives on History | AHA

Understanding the specific historical context of Confederate monuments in America is imperative to informed public debate. Historians who specialize in this period have done careful and nuanced research to understand and explain this context. Drawing on their expertise enables us to assess the original intentions of those who erected the monuments, and how the monuments have functioned as symbols over time. The bulk of the monument building took place not in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War but from the close of the 19th century into the second decade of the 20th. Commemorating not just the Confederacy but also the “Redemption” of the South after Reconstruction, this enterprise was part and parcel of the initiation of legally mandated segregation and widespread disenfranchisement across the South. Memorials to the Confederacy were intended, in part, to obscure the terrorism required to overthrow Reconstruction, and to intimidate African Americans politically and isolate them from the mainstream of public life. A reprise of commemoration during the mid-20th century coincided with the Civil Rights Movement and included a wave of renaming and the popularization of the Confederate flag as a political symbol. Events in Charlottesville and elsewhere indicate that these symbols of white supremacy are still being invoked for similar purposes.

Monuments were erected in states that played no part in the war or did even exist in the war.

Given this background, why are we fighting to retain them, when they, as intended, function as a reminder of enslavement, segregation, and loss to a siginfo ant proportion of American citizenry?

These aren’t monuments on historical sites and battlefields.

Many were placed as the most of the veterans were dying off (around 1900-1915). Others were placed on or about the 100th Anniversary.

Hell, we JUST BARELY got a WWII war memorial in DC.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

Speaking of “getting in the way of a good narrative” can you address why they were put in states that either did not exist or did not participate in the war? Why were they mass produced? Why did their placement coincide with major racial events? Why were only confederate monuments spread like this?

Thank you. I look forward to YOUR narrative

FINE, THEN TEAR DOWN the monuments in places that DO NOT have a significant population of descendants whose ancestors fought in that war, to no benefit of their own!!!

I.E. NOT CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA!!!

Why not?

Frankly I know of no other nation that commeratio the LOSERS of a civil war. Those monuments belong in the battlefield parks, in the context of the history they were a part of.

because we agreed to reconcile.

...and we did...so what?

If we are taking that off the table and going back to being outcasts and not reconciled with the United States, then fine. The war is back on.

Removing mass produced confederate monuments designed to remind black people of their place, has nothing to do with outcasts. Are we ALL Americans together or are we still fighting a war 150 years after the confederacy was decisively defeated? You are always telling black people they “need to get over it”, practice what you preach and let those monuments reside in the battlefields and historic battle landmarks. Isn’t that where the Union ones tend to be?

And as far as you are concerned, fuck all those poor young kids who owned no slaves but who were conscripted into a war and fought only because it was their duty to do so, right?

They are 150 years gone in a bloody awful War. Let them be remembered in the battlefield memorials, where true extent of our nation‘s bloody civil war is presented, together with their Union brothers.

Rip all of those fucking memorials down, and shit on all of their ancestors living in the same town. Right?

....kind of like you are shitting on the black folks who’s ancestors were enslaved by them, who’s ancestors suffered through Jim Crowe, which spurred the erection of hundreds of mass produced memorials? Is this war still alive?

 

[Coyote]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

So, flying the Mexican flag would be the same thing, right?

Both Texas and the United States were at war with Mexico at one point in time. AND WE WON!!!

And California, cor that matter.

So YOU don't wanna see another motherfucking Mexican flag flown anywhere in the U.S.?

Mexico is a sovereign nation that was never part of tbe US. The Confederacy was a portion of the US that committed treason.

Any other false equivalencies you would like to throw in?

false equivalency?



Do you know the reason we had a war called the Texas War of Independence, and another war called the Mexican-American war?

Do tell the class what you think was the reason for those two separate wars with Mexico. And let's not forget how California came into the union too.

(hint: Something about one state being part of another country, and a war happening because of treason/rebellion and some other shit)

Sure. We took them from Mexico. So what? Remind me of the time Mexico started a traitorous war to secede from the US over the right to own slaves. I don’t recall that bit.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

At what point, is it going “too far“ when it comes to these memorials?

There are some facts to consider:

Many of those ”memorials” were mass produced long after war, and erected during times During times of racial tensions. They were erected with no discussion.

AHA Statement on Confederate Monuments | Perspectives on History | AHA

Understanding the specific historical context of Confederate monuments in America is imperative to informed public debate. Historians who specialize in this period have done careful and nuanced research to understand and explain this context. Drawing on their expertise enables us to assess the original intentions of those who erected the monuments, and how the monuments have functioned as symbols over time. The bulk of the monument building took place not in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War but from the close of the 19th century into the second decade of the 20th. Commemorating not just the Confederacy but also the “Redemption” of the South after Reconstruction, this enterprise was part and parcel of the initiation of legally mandated segregation and widespread disenfranchisement across the South. Memorials to the Confederacy were intended, in part, to obscure the terrorism required to overthrow Reconstruction, and to intimidate African Americans politically and isolate them from the mainstream of public life. A reprise of commemoration during the mid-20th century coincided with the Civil Rights Movement and included a wave of renaming and the popularization of the Confederate flag as a political symbol. Events in Charlottesville and elsewhere indicate that these symbols of white supremacy are still being invoked for similar purposes.

Monuments were erected in states that played no part in the war or did even exist in the war.

Given this background, why are we fighting to retain them, when they, as intended, function as a reminder of enslavement, segregation, and loss to a siginfo ant proportion of American citizenry?

These aren’t monuments on historical sites and battlefields.

Many were placed as the most of the veterans were dying off (around 1900-1915). Others were placed on or about the 100th Anniversary.

Hell, we JUST BARELY got a WWII war memorial in DC.

But don't let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

Speaking of “getting in the way of a good narrative” can you address why they were put in states that either did not exist or did not participate in the war? Why were they mass produced? Why did their placement coincide with major racial events? Why were only confederate monuments spread like this?

Thank you. I look forward to YOUR narrative

FINE, THEN TEAR DOWN the monuments in places that DO NOT have a significant population of descendants whose ancestors fought in that war, to no benefit of their own!!!

I.E. NOT CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA!!!

Why not?

Frankly I know of no other nation that commeratio the LOSERS of a civil war. Those monuments belong in the battlefield parks, in the context of the history they were a part of.

because we agreed to reconcile.

...and we did...so what?

If we are taking that off the table and going back to being outcasts and not reconciled with the United States, then fine. The war is back on.

Removing mass produced confederate monuments designed to remind black people of their place, has nothing to do with outcasts. Are we ALL Americans together or are we still fighting a war 150 years after the confederacy was decisively defeated? You are always telling black people they “need to get over it”, practice what you preach and let those monuments reside in the battlefields and historic battle landmarks. Isn’t that where the Union ones tend to be?

And as far as you are concerned, fuck all those poor young kids who owned no slaves but who were conscripted into a war and fought only because it was their duty to do so, right?

They are 150 years gone in a bloody awful War. Let them be remembered in the battlefield memorials, where true extent of our nation‘s bloody civil war is presented, together with their Union brothers.

Rip all of those fucking memorials down, and shit on all of their ancestors living in the same town. Right?

....kind of like you are shitting on the black folks who’s ancestors were enslaved by them, who’s ancestors suffered through Jim Crowe, which spurred the erection of hundreds of mass produced memorials? Is this war still alive?

Anyone proposing that can kindly fuck the fuck off.


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Did you read the article?

 

[ElmerMudd]

Post World War II Germany built statues of those who were imprisoned in concentration camps.
The statues help tell the story of what happened in the concentration camps and helps make sure this chapter of their history is never repeated.
They did not build statues glorifying the soldiers and politicians of the time.

The US should learn from Germany.

Which side of post-ww2 Germany was that?
-Somebody that remembers how it was.

Marion, why do use a flag that screams loser on your blog. The confederacy attacked the USA and tried to break up our country. The morals that drove them included maintaining slavery. And they lost big time. They lost so big the confederacy went away.The flag screams LOSER.
Why don't you have a L tattooed on your forehead.

Because of faggots just like you!
I like to get you all triggered up and then kick you right in your ass!

Well Marion, I laugh at you. foolish loser,

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

So, flying the Mexican flag would be the same thing, right?

Both Texas and the United States were at war with Mexico at one point in time. AND WE WON!!!

And California, cor that matter.

So YOU don't wanna see another motherfucking Mexican flag flown anywhere in the U.S.?

Mexico is a sovereign nation that was never part of tbe US. The Confederacy was a portion of the US that committed treason.

Any other false equivalencies you would like to throw in?

false equivalency?



Do you know the reason we had a war called the Texas War of Independence, and another war called the Mexican-American war?

Do tell the class what you think was the reason for those two separate wars with Mexico. And let's not forget how California came into the union too.

(hint: Something about one state being part of another country, and a war happening because of treason/rebellion and some other shit)

Sure. We took them from Mexico. So what? Remind me of the time Mexico started a traitorous war to secede from the US over the right to own slaves. I don’t recall that bit.

Mexico started a war with the US to take back land that Texas took when it left.

And you seem to have no problem with a bunch of Mexicans waving the Mexican flag in Texas, do you?

Do you know what the Mexicans did to Texians?

So, spare me the bullshit about waving flags from enemies of the United States or traitors.


Call up Queen Elizabeth and tell her to never let the flag of the US fly anywhere in Great Britain.

Otherwise, your arguments are nothing but shit. You have no problem joining sides with the asswipes who want do nothing but sow divide and insurrection among the people.

30, 20, hell even 10 years ago, nobody really gave a fuck about monuments the dead Confederate soldiers. Now the commie mob has decided to rip them all down, arbitrarily.

Why?

Because the Frankfurt school teaches them too. They are communist shit twinkle toed cocksuckers trying to erode western culture.

And right on cue their next target is not just Confederate monuments, now they are going to have to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington any founder of this nation, because they want to erase it so they can implement their communist bullshit.

You know it's true. You're defending these fuckers for some reason. Spare me the fake ignorance.

 

[Coyote]

Meanwhile it's total crickets on Democrat HERO and beloved party leader Robert Byrd...also an exalted cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan who filibustered the civil rights act and has over 50 monuments, bridges, dams that carry his name.

Yes, Robert Byrd was a far right conservative, just like all the other racist Democrats of the Old South.

And?

Byrd was a Democrat you lying hack DEMOCRAT often praised by Dem leaders.

Democrat or Republican, it does not matter why build statues to losers, why wave the flag of losers.

The people who want to build statues of losers want to celebrate losing.

They are losers.

If that’s the case we should never see another nations flag flown within our borders. No pride if heritage should be allowed. Anywhere. If they came to the US it’s because their home nation are losers.

A flag of a rebel group trying to break up our country is different than another country's flag

So, flying the Mexican flag would be the same thing, right?

Both Texas and the United States were at war with Mexico at one point in time. AND WE WON!!!

And California, cor that matter.

So YOU don't wanna see another motherfucking Mexican flag flown anywhere in the U.S.?

Mexico is a sovereign nation that was never part of tbe US. The Confederacy was a portion of the US that committed treason.

Any other false equivalencies you would like to throw in?

false equivalency?



Do you know the reason we had a war called the Texas War of Independence, and another war called the Mexican-American war?

Do tell the class what you think was the reason for those two separate wars with Mexico. And let's not forget how California came into the union too.

(hint: Something about one state being part of another country, and a war happening because of treason/rebellion and some other shit)

Sure. We took them from Mexico. So what? Remind me of the time Mexico started a traitorous war to secede from the US over the right to own slaves. I don’t recall that bit.

Mexico started a war with the US to take back land that Texas took when it left.

And you seem to have no problem with a bunch of Mexicans waving the Mexican flag in Texas, do you?

Do you know what the Mexicans did to Texians?

So, spare me the bullshit about waving flags from enemies of the United States or traitors.


Call up Queen Elizabeth and tell her to never let the flag of the US fly anywhere in great Britain.

Otherwise, your arguments are nothing but shit. You have no problem joining sides with the asswipes who want do nothing but so divide and insurrection among the people.

30, 20, hell even 10 years ago, nobody really gave a fuck about monuments the dead Confederate soldiers. Now the commie mob has decided to rip them all down, arbitrarily.

Why?

Because the Frankfurt school teaches them too. They are communist shit twinkle toes cocksuckers trying to erode western culture.

And right on cue their next target is not just Confederate monuments, now they are going to have to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington any founder of this nation, because they want to erase it so they can implement their communist bullshit.

You know it's true. You're defending these fuckers for some reason. Spare me the bullshit.

Bootney, you are getting yourself in a twist over nothing when it comes flags. I really don’t care what flags people choose to wave. It is their business. If that is what they need to define their heritage, that is their choice.

People have a tendency to go too far, and when they do, it needs to stop, but mass produced confederate memorials designed to remind black people of their place aren’t statues of Jefferson or Washington.

You seem to forget that African Americans are Americans citizens with the same rights..don’t THEY have some say in this?