Possible Scenario

[sakinago]

Do you really want a country that only appoints judges when the senate and whitehouse are controlled by the same party.

No. But that’s that country we have now.

Whoa whoa, waiting 4 years after an election to appoint a nominee isn’t extreme for you?

Yeah. Waiting a year for Merrick Garland was extreme too.

If Clinton had won in 2016, do you think a Republican Senate would have voted on her nominee?

Yeah, they in fact said they would. It was half a year btw, not a year.

From Wiki:
After a period of 293 days, Garland's nomination expired on January 3, 2017 at the end of the 114th Congress.[95] On January 31, 2017, President Donald Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch to fill the Court vacancy.[96] On April 7, 2017, the Senate confirmed Gorsuch's nomination to the Supreme Court.

Neither of us are completely correct but it was longer than 6 months.

Did McConnell ever say they’d vote on a Clinton nominee? Cruz, Burr and a few others said they had no intention.

Nominees are rarely voted for unanimously.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Yes they will block any conservative judges.

You mean....judges that are supposed to make decisions in relation to the Constitutionality of cases brought before them.

 

[colfax_m]

Do you really want a country that only appoints judges when the senate and whitehouse are controlled by the same party.

No. But that’s that country we have now.

Whoa whoa, waiting 4 years after an election to appoint a nominee isn’t extreme for you?

Yeah. Waiting a year for Merrick Garland was extreme too.

If Clinton had won in 2016, do you think a Republican Senate would have voted on her nominee?

Yeah, they in fact said they would. It was half a year btw, not a year.

From Wiki:
After a period of 293 days, Garland's nomination expired on January 3, 2017 at the end of the 114th Congress.[95] On January 31, 2017, President Donald Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch to fill the Court vacancy.[96] On April 7, 2017, the Senate confirmed Gorsuch's nomination to the Supreme Court.

Neither of us are completely correct but it was longer than 6 months.

Did McConnell ever say they’d vote on a Clinton nominee? Cruz, Burr and a few others said they had no intention.

Nominees are rarely voted for unanimously.

It takes the majority leader to even get to a vote, doesn’t it?

 

[sakinago]

Do you really want a country that only appoints judges when the senate and whitehouse are controlled by the same party.

No. But that’s that country we have now.

Whoa whoa, waiting 4 years after an election to appoint a nominee isn’t extreme for you?

Yeah. Waiting a year for Merrick Garland was extreme too.

If Clinton had won in 2016, do you think a Republican Senate would have voted on her nominee?

Yeah, they in fact said they would. It was half a year btw, not a year.

From Wiki:
After a period of 293 days, Garland's nomination expired on January 3, 2017 at the end of the 114th Congress.[95] On January 31, 2017, President Donald Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch to fill the Court vacancy.[96] On April 7, 2017, the Senate confirmed Gorsuch's nomination to the Supreme Court.

Neither of us are completely correct but it was longer than 6 months.

Did McConnell ever say they’d vote on a Clinton nominee? Cruz, Burr and a few others said they had no intention.

Nominees are rarely voted for unanimously.

It takes the majority leader to even get to a vote, doesn’t it?

They weren’t the majority and McConnell said they would. I believe him. Do you not?

 

[colfax_m]

Do you really want a country that only appoints judges when the senate and whitehouse are controlled by the same party.

No. But that’s that country we have now.

Whoa whoa, waiting 4 years after an election to appoint a nominee isn’t extreme for you?

Yeah. Waiting a year for Merrick Garland was extreme too.

If Clinton had won in 2016, do you think a Republican Senate would have voted on her nominee?

Yeah, they in fact said they would. It was half a year btw, not a year.

From Wiki:
After a period of 293 days, Garland's nomination expired on January 3, 2017 at the end of the 114th Congress.[95] On January 31, 2017, President Donald Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch to fill the Court vacancy.[96] On April 7, 2017, the Senate confirmed Gorsuch's nomination to the Supreme Court.

Neither of us are completely correct but it was longer than 6 months.

Did McConnell ever say they’d vote on a Clinton nominee? Cruz, Burr and a few others said they had no intention.

Nominees are rarely voted for unanimously.

It takes the majority leader to even get to a vote, doesn’t it?

They weren’t the majority and McConnell said they would. I believe him. Do you not?

Not really. He’s already been pretty dishonest about this whole affair. Do you have where he said that?

 

[JoeMoma]

The democrat senate would approve a very moderate or progressive judge.....but not conservative.

They won't do that......they have pulled the mask off completely.....look to them to even impeach Kavanaugh and a slew of other judges Trump appointed...... they are no longer even pretending to care about the law, the Constitution or the Bill of Rights......naked power grabs are all they are now.

Sure the democrats would approve a VERY moderate or progressive/liberal/democrat judge if Trump appoints one. Trump would be giving them what they want. Trump could appoint Garland for example, and the democrat senate would approve. But why would Trump do that.

 

[beautress]

Trump wins Whitehouse, Dems take over senate. RBG either dies or retires to deal with her ailing health. Does the Dem Senate refuse to confirm Trumps appointees?

They will never confirm any Trump appointee if they take the Senate...

This is why along with Trump, we sadly have to vote for every establishment, coward, back stabbing rino republican on the ticket..... this is a numbers game and Trump will need the Senate.

I'm pretty sure American voters have had it with the Democrats. Democrat operative James Hodgkinson attempted to murder Republican representative Steve Scalese, who was at the top of his list of Representatives the party was tired of dealing with, mainly Republican leaders. That went over real bad. The people were lied to about President Trump, and 3 years of proven lies against him by the Democrats was not pleasing to Americans who vote. Even though the Main Stream media went on and on and on about bad Trump, The Americans were taken by surprise when Trump kept being found innocent of the charges piled on them by Shiff, Nadler, and Pelosi. The fake impeachment horrified all of us, and not just Republicans, but people who take their voting seriously and like dependable people like President Trump making the decisions and not people who lie from both sides of their mouths.

Americans have never seen malice worse than Maxine Waters' ordering her minions to stalk and embarrass President Trumps' innocent staffers, and many people who save their money for a rainey day do not like people who act like crooks in charge of America's purse, which Maxine Waters holds that power with Democrats in charge of the House. She may or may not win her seat back next time, but if she does, I don't think good voters would ever put Democrats in charge of America's expenditures for at least the next 30 years, and a lot of people think stalking is a very bad offense, ordered by Finance Chairwoman Waters, and they're not ever going to tolerate that nonsense and unconstitutional behavior ever again. Hopefully, Waters will have to answer for her crimes of high treason with ten years of jail time for her wrongdoing and hatred rather than cooperative American spirits that America loves. Maxine sorta screwed the pooch, and she owes the President an apology and to have her crimes closely inspected, prosecuted, and her sentenced to pay back her debt to the Executive Branch she stalked without mercy and with malice aforethought..

 

[ReinyDays]

Yeah I know it’s beyond reason. Stare decisis apparently only applies to rules that came down on the liberal side of the court. He also agreed that Obama’s DACA EO was unlawful, but basically ordered trump to continue to be unlawful because he didn’t like trumps rational that the EO was unlawful. You have to shake the stupid out of your head when you hear Roberts decisions.

"We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies," Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. "'The wisdom' of those decisions 'is none of our concern.' We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action."

I've spent an embarrassing amount of time sitting in a court-of-law ... yes, even judges have to follow the law ... and if the law says the Trump administration has to actual say why they want to repeal an EO ... then they have to say why they want to repeal ...

Did you read the decision? ... that might help you understand ...

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

President Trump wins. The Republicans retake all the House seats they lost and hang onto the Senate with a 67% majority. A case comes forth to the Supreme Court that forces them to declare stages of human development from conception to death and the finding is that fetuses are human beings. As human beings fetuses are allowed to live plus women who didn't want to give birth are given proper mental health benefits to deal with their fate, and adoptions are arranged for those who really don't want to raise a child. Childless couples win a chance to parent beautiful American children, unwilling-to-be moms get a happy life and good attitude out of their gift to a childless couple and appreciation, and men are educated to overcome the cloud of being deadbeat dads by doing what they need to do if they decide to keep the child the mother doesn't want if agreements are made. Everyone wins, and America is re-enthused about precious freedoms the founders gave us.

And then you woke up. Biden is President, Democrats take back 7 Senate seats and keep their majority in the House. The Republican Party is decimated for the next decade.

The subject of Roe vs Wade is finally put to rest via three new progressive judges on the SC over Biden’s two terms. Liberals and progressives finally convince conservatives and holy rollers that it’s in their best interest to pursue other policies for reducing the need for abortion like funding Planned Parenthood (which deals with women’s health. Not just abortion),making birth control readily available and easy to obtain, funding for programs that benefit single mothers like SNAP and WIC, funding for lunches for kids in school and an investment in public education.

The need for abortion slowly disappears over the next two decades. Holy rollers can finally clasp their hands together and tell their sky pixie they’ve defeated the big, bad liberals who want to murder unborn zygotes...erm...babies.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Trump wins Whitehouse, Dems take over senate. RBG either dies or retires to deal with her ailing health. Does the Dem Senate refuse to confirm Trumps appointees?

They will never confirm any Trump appointee if they take the Senate...

This is why along with Trump, we sadly have to vote for every establishment, coward, back stabbing rino republican on the ticket..... this is a numbers game and Trump will need the Senate.

I'm pretty sure American voters have had it with the Democrats. Democrat operative James Hodgkinson attempted to murder Republican representative Steve Scalese, who was at the top of his list of Representatives the party was tired of dealing with, mainly Republican leaders. That went over real bad. The people were lied to about President Trump, and 3 years of proven lies against him by the Democrats was not pleasing to Americans who vote. Even though the Main Stream media went on and on and on about bad Trump, The Americans were taken by surprise when Trump kept being found innocent of the charges piled on them by Shiff, Nadler, and Pelosi. The fake impeachment horrified all of us, and not just Republicans, but people who take their voting seriously and like dependable people like President Trump making the decisions and not people who lie from both sides of their mouths.

Americans have never seen malice worse than Maxine Waters' ordering her minions to stalk and embarrass President Trumps' innocent staffers, and many people who save their money for a rainey day do not like people who act like crooks in charge of America's purse, which Maxine Waters holds that power with Democrats in charge of the House. She may or may not win her seat back next time, but if she does, I don't think good voters would ever put Democrats in charge of America's expenditures for at least the next 30 years, and a lot of people think stalking is a very bad offense, ordered by Finance Chairwoman Waters, and they're not ever going to tolerate that nonsense and unconstitutional behavior ever again. Hopefully, Waters will have to answer for her crimes of high treason with ten years of jail time for her wrongdoing and hatred rather than cooperative American spirits that America loves. Maxine sorta screwed the pooch, and she owes the President an apology and to have her crimes closely inspected, prosecuted, and her sentenced to pay back her debt to the Executive Branch she stalked without mercy and with malice aforethought..

You true believers and conspiracy theorists are a hoot. You will have no one to blame but yourselves as your belief system and ideology are rejected and fade away as a younger generation of voters supplant you. There just aren’t enough of you left to go around. Donald Trump was elected by the thinnest of margins with help from a foreign power. The worst President this country has ever elected. But you keep on supporting him. It’s him and Republicans in general that most people are tired of. You are helping the opposite party into power.

 

[sakinago]

Yeah I know it’s beyond reason. Stare decisis apparently only applies to rules that came down on the liberal side of the court. He also agreed that Obama’s DACA EO was unlawful, but basically ordered trump to continue to be unlawful because he didn’t like trumps rational that the EO was unlawful. You have to shake the stupid out of your head when you hear Roberts decisions.

"We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies," Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. "'The wisdom' of those decisions 'is none of our concern.' We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action."

I've spent an embarrassing amount of time sitting in a court-of-law ... yes, even judges have to follow the law ... and if the law says the Trump administration has to actual say why they want to repeal an EO ... then they have to say why they want to repeal ...

Did you read the decision? ... that might help you understand ...

I read the majority and minority statements. The court is not a legislative body. They cannot alter or review sections of law and pick and choose what they don’t like. Which is what precisely happened here. They are knowingly upholding an invalid law. The same reasons they cite upholding DACA, because trump admin didn’t make a good enough justification, is waaaay more applicable to DACA itself. Basically the entire court agrees DACA is unlawful and are ordering the president to continue to be unlawful.

We all know what’s going on here. Roberts is the swing vote in order to push the issue past the election. Don’t pretend like this is law and order because it isn’t. The SCOTUS has become a legislative entity. Go back to the recent decision to add sexual orientation and gender identity to title 7. Before that there were 2 bills written to do this. One passed the HOR, one passed the Senate. There’s a clear legislative movement towards this issue. You know the legislative branch, the one where people vote on their representatives in the country, yeah, the one that makes us a republic.The one where our representatives argue on behalf of their constituents and come to an agreement. Where’s there’s give and take like “I’ll vote for this bill as long as you add this protection for this certain group. Yeah that whole process was thrown out the window, and the SCOTUS decided it was up to them to behave like oligarchs and add language to a law when they have no power to do so. Now there’s zero language for say a Jewish day school to choose not hire Bryan Urlacher in a wig, or Selma Hayek with a buzz cut squatting doggy style in a urinal in the boys room making eye contact while she’s peeing with the kids waiting in line. Is that school even going to be allowed to teach that homosexuality is a sin according to their beliefs?

 

[sakinago]

President Trump wins. The Republicans retake all the House seats they lost and hang onto the Senate with a 67% majority. A case comes forth to the Supreme Court that forces them to declare stages of human development from conception to death and the finding is that fetuses are human beings. As human beings fetuses are allowed to live plus women who didn't want to give birth are given proper mental health benefits to deal with their fate, and adoptions are arranged for those who really don't want to raise a child. Childless couples win a chance to parent beautiful American children, unwilling-to-be moms get a happy life and good attitude out of their gift to a childless couple and appreciation, and men are educated to overcome the cloud of being deadbeat dads by doing what they need to do if they decide to keep the child the mother doesn't want if agreements are made. Everyone wins, and America is re-enthused about precious freedoms the founders gave us.

And then you woke up. Biden is President, Democrats take back 7 Senate seats and keep their majority in the House. The Republican Party is decimated for the next decade.

The subject of Roe vs Wade is finally put to rest via three new progressive judges on the SC over Biden’s two terms. Liberals and progressives finally convince conservatives and holy rollers that it’s in their best interest to pursue other policies for reducing the need for abortion like funding Planned Parenthood (which deals with women’s health. Not just abortion),making birth control readily available and easy to obtain, funding for programs that benefit single mothers like SNAP and WIC, funding for lunches for kids in school and an investment in public education.

The need for abortion slowly disappears over the next two decades. Holy rollers can finally clasp their hands together and tell their sky pixie they’ve defeated the big, bad liberals who want to murder unborn zygotes...erm...babies.

The zygote stage lasts for maybe a week, and is basically undetectable to most pregnancy tests.