Pope’s Upcoming Visit has Israeli Security on High Alert

[Pennywise]

^^Public Relations^^.

Talk to a jew for more than a few minutes and get an in-depth view of their frothing disdain for Catholics. Even among those who are otherwise pleasant and thoughtful, the resentment runs as deep as Loch Ness and its heart is just as cold.

 

[Sally]

^^Public Relations^^.

Talk to a jew for more than a few minutes and get an in-depth view of their frothing disdain for Catholics. Even among those who are otherwise pleasant and thoughtful, the resentment runs as deep as Loch Ness and its heart is just as cold.

Really? Strange how many Jews and Catholics have married each other in the U.S. By the way, I used to read a Bronx message board on a regular basis; and at one time, an Irish Catholic man said that the nuns in his parochial school told the kids not to even go into any businesses owned by Jews or Protestants because Jews and Protestants were bad. He said that now that he was grown up, he knew the nuns were wrong. Other posters who went to prochial schools claimed that the nuns told them the same. Perhaps you have never grown up.

 

[Roudy]

The only danger to the Pope are the Israeli Jews.

How so when the evidence of history shows that it has been the muslims that have constantly attacked the Popes.

For a Catholic you have no idea who is out the kill the Pope, suffice it to say it looks like it will be the muslims. What are the odds they will place the blame on the Palestinians so the Catholics will hunt them down and kill them.

He gave up his Catholicism a long time ago in favor of Islam and Jew hate.

 

[Roudy]

^^Public Relations^^.

Talk to a jew for more than a few minutes and get an in-depth view of their frothing disdain for Catholics. Even among those who are otherwise pleasant and thoughtful, the resentment runs as deep as Loch Ness and its heart is just as cold.

And thank God you aren't a good example of the average Catholic mindset, in fact, you're a freaking Nazi and an embarrassment.

 

[Pennywise]

^^Public Relations^^.

Talk to a jew for more than a few minutes and get an in-depth view of their frothing disdain for Catholics. Even among those who are otherwise pleasant and thoughtful, the resentment runs as deep as Loch Ness and its heart is just as cold.

And thank God you aren't a good example of the average Catholic mindset, in fact, you're a freaking Nazi and an embarrassment.

I'm agnostic. Catholics don't understand the significance of the Torah, so they willingly line up to make themselves useful idiots (Zionists). Their hearts are in the right place, but they are ignorant.

 

[proudveteran06]

Are the Hasidim going to stone him? And if so, will they shower first?

99.9999% of all the worlds stonings in the last 500 years have been carried out by muslims. Unless of course you can produce evidence to the contrary

That's nice, but are you claiming that Israeli jews give two ***** for Catholics?


Are you claiming that Catholics give two ***** for Israeli Jews or any Jews ???


Anti-Semitism of the "Church Fathers"


Origins of Christian Anti-Semitism


Antisemitism in History: From the Early Church to 1400



This is what the poster was taught. Notice how he deliberately ignores the evidence of Hate the Muslims have for the Pope? He was taught well.

 

[MHunterB]

"I'm agnostic. Catholics don't understand the significance of the Torah, so they willingly line up to make themselves useful idiots (Zionists). Their hearts are in the right place, but they are ignorant."
__________________

Since you're allegedly "agnostic" - what could you possibly mean by that bold stuff from your post?

 

[Pennywise]

The Pope is going to Israel, not Saudi Arabia.

 

[Pennywise]

"I'm agnostic. Catholics don't understand the significance of the Torah, so they willingly line up to make themselves useful idiots (Zionists). Their hearts are in the right place, but they are ignorant."
__________________

Since you're allegedly "agnostic" - what could you possibly mean by that bold stuff from your post?

I'm agnostic, not ignorant. I know all sorts of things that have nothing to do with my spiritual beliefs.

 

[proudveteran06]

The Pope is going to Israel, not Saudi Arabia.

What does the above have to do with the posters Racism and Hypocrisy; Does anybody know ?

 

[Pennywise]

The Pope is going to Israel, not Saudi Arabia.

What does the above have to do with the posters Racism and Hypocrisy; Does anybody know ?

This is a discussion about Catholics and Jews, not Muslims.

Sorry to wake you.

 

[proudveteran06]

The Pope is going to Israel, not Saudi Arabia.

What does the above have to do with the posters Racism and Hypocrisy; Does anybody know ?

This is a discussion about Catholics and Jews, not Muslims.

Sorry to wake you.

Sorry to wake you. This is NOT a discussion about Catholics and Jews. I realize it may be hard to focus with all your Hate but please try. The thread deals with Israel's increased Security; Not Catholics and Jews . Deliberately ignoring the Anti Semitic Links with the teachings of the Catholic Church makes you a Racist and a Bigot . Do Catholics care about Israeli Jews or Jews? ( The same question you asked in reverse) There won't be a response because you're a Racist. Muslims are killing Christians all over the World yet not one response from you or others? I would love to see your reaction if Israel was waiting until a pregnant women gave birth before they stoned her to death for being a Christian. THE MESSAGE BOARDS WOULD BE ON OVERLOAD ! That's because you're a Racist and a Hypocrite

 

[freedombecki]

I just hope that the Pope will be safe wherever he is in the Middle East. Wasn't it the Pope before the last one who was shot by a Muslim?

Pope’s Upcoming Visit has Israeli Security on High Alert

Posted by: Lea Speyer May 18, 2014 , 12:41 pm

The upcoming visit of Pope Francis to Israel is proving to be a major headache for local Israeli security forces tasked with overseeing the pontiff’s security.

Pope Francis will begin his tour of the Middle East on Saturday when he arrives to Jordan. Immediately the next day, he leaves for the West Bank town of Bethlehem where he will then fly into Israel and stay until the evening of May 26.

The Pope has cultivated a largely popular following of the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics. Pope Francis is known for his desire to personally engage with followers which has caused worry among his security detail in the past.

Read more at

Pope?s Upcoming Visit has Israeli Security on High Alert - Israel News

Wouldn't it be lovely if the Pope, who represents Christ, the perfect Jew, and his body of followers could reconcile with today's Jewish people and their state, Israel?

I wish him success. It would be a giant step in reconciliation for the entire world, imho.

 

[aris2chat]

The Pope is going to Israel, not Saudi Arabia.

What does the above have to do with the posters Racism and Hypocrisy; Does anybody know ?

This is a discussion about Catholics and Jews, not Muslims.

Sorry to wake you.

When muslims attack christians before the Pope's visit, it is discussion about respect for religion, lack of respect, relationship of all the faiths in the area and what might be involved in endangering the Pope or his visit to the holy land of three major religions.

 

[Sally]

"I'm agnostic. Catholics don't understand the significance of the Torah, so they willingly line up to make themselves useful idiots (Zionists). Their hearts are in the right place, but they are ignorant."
__________________

Since you're allegedly "agnostic" - what could you possibly mean by that bold stuff from your post?

I can't see what problem he would have with the Torah. I think Catholics are even reading and studying the Old Testament now. I believe what he is actually referring to are those fake Talmud quotes which are so popular on the NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites.

What Is the Torah - All About the Torah

 

[aris2chat]

"I'm agnostic. Catholics don't understand the significance of the Torah, so they willingly line up to make themselves useful idiots (Zionists). Their hearts are in the right place, but they are ignorant."
__________________

Since you're allegedly "agnostic" - what could you possibly mean by that bold stuff from your post?

I can't see what problem he would have with the Torah. I think Catholics are even reading and studying the Old Testament now. I believe what he is actually referring to are those fake Talmud quotes which are so popular on the NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites.

What Is the Torah - All About the Torah

Torah is the first five books of the bible. No christian should have a problem with the Torah. No muslim should either as the taurah is the holy book of moses who is after all a prophet of islam


Lo! We did reveal the At-Taurah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.
~ Quran, 5:44

 

[montelatici]

"I'm agnostic. Catholics don't understand the significance of the Torah, so they willingly line up to make themselves useful idiots (Zionists). Their hearts are in the right place, but they are ignorant."
__________________

Since you're allegedly "agnostic" - what could you possibly mean by that bold stuff from your post?

I can't see what problem he would have with the Torah. I think Catholics are even reading and studying the Old Testament now. I believe what he is actually referring to are those fake Talmud quotes which are so popular on the NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites.

What Is the Torah - All About the Torah

"Roman Catholicism and Zionism are Irreconcilable"


"In 1904, Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism, was granted an audience with Pope St. Pius X. His purpose in meeting with the Pope was to gain support for the founding of a Jewish state in what was then known as Palestine. As Herzl recorded in his diary, the Pope gave an unfavorable response, saying: “We are unable to favor this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem – but we could never sanction it. The ground of Jerusalem, if it were not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people. And so if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with churches and priests to baptize all of you." ( This response might smack of “anti-Semitism” to modern ears, which are ultra-sensitive to criticisms of Zionism. However, as Catholics, we should give deep consideration to the theological and moral implications of the words of this pope-saint. While many Protestant groups are now giving wholesale support of Zionism, Catholics must recognize the inherent dangers to their faith that Zionism presents.
First of all, as Catholics, we must recognize that the Catholic Church is the New Israel. In fact, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, citing the Vatican II decree entitled Ad Gentes, refers to the Church in this way, stating, “Jesus instituted the Twelve as ‘the seeds of the new Israel and the beginning of the sacred hierarchy’” (paragraph 877). Likewise, in his first epistle, St. Peter applies terms formerly reserved for the Jewish people to the followers of Christ, thus explicitly pointing out the Church’s place as the New Israel: “you are a chosen generation, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation, a purchased people” (1 Peter 2:9). Clearly, we can see that it has been the traditional Catholic understanding that this title, “New Israel,” belongs to the Church. Implicitly, the Jewish people are no longer “the chosen people” or the “most beloved children of God.” To confirm this, the temple of Jerusalem was providentially destroyed by the Romans in the year 70 AD. This essentially destroyed the old Israel as a nation, because without a temple, it could no longer offer sacrifices to please God."

GSB: DCDave's Column

 

[aris2chat]

"I'm agnostic. Catholics don't understand the significance of the Torah, so they willingly line up to make themselves useful idiots (Zionists). Their hearts are in the right place, but they are ignorant."
__________________

Since you're allegedly "agnostic" - what could you possibly mean by that bold stuff from your post?

I can't see what problem he would have with the Torah. I think Catholics are even reading and studying the Old Testament now. I believe what he is actually referring to are those fake Talmud quotes which are so popular on the NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites.

What Is the Torah - All About the Torah

"Roman Catholicism and Zionism are Irreconcilable"


"In 1904, Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism, was granted an audience with Pope St. Pius X. His purpose in meeting with the Pope was to gain support for the founding of a Jewish state in what was then known as Palestine. As Herzl recorded in his diary, the Pope gave an unfavorable response, saying: “We are unable to favor this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem – but we could never sanction it. The ground of Jerusalem, if it were not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people. And so if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with churches and priests to baptize all of you." ( This response might smack of “anti-Semitism” to modern ears, which are ultra-sensitive to criticisms of Zionism. However, as Catholics, we should give deep consideration to the theological and moral implications of the words of this pope-saint. While many Protestant groups are now giving wholesale support of Zionism, Catholics must recognize the inherent dangers to their faith that Zionism presents.
First of all, as Catholics, we must recognize that the Catholic Church is the New Israel. In fact, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, citing the Vatican II decree entitled Ad Gentes, refers to the Church in this way, stating, “Jesus instituted the Twelve as ‘the seeds of the new Israel and the beginning of the sacred hierarchy’” (paragraph 877). Likewise, in his first epistle, St. Peter applies terms formerly reserved for the Jewish people to the followers of Christ, thus explicitly pointing out the Church’s place as the New Israel: “you are a chosen generation, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation, a purchased people” (1 Peter 2:9). Clearly, we can see that it has been the traditional Catholic understanding that this title, “New Israel,” belongs to the Church. Implicitly, the Jewish people are no longer “the chosen people” or the “most beloved children of God.” To confirm this, the temple of Jerusalem was providentially destroyed by the Romans in the year 70 AD. This essentially destroyed the old Israel as a nation, because without a temple, it could no longer offer sacrifices to please God."

GSB: DCDave's Column

Church might still prefer to control Jerusalem, for the sake of peace, but thankfully attitudes at the Vatican have changed in the last century.

 

[montelatici]

I can't see what problem he would have with the Torah. I think Catholics are even reading and studying the Old Testament now. I believe what he is actually referring to are those fake Talmud quotes which are so popular on the NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites.

What Is the Torah - All About the Torah

"Roman Catholicism and Zionism are Irreconcilable"


"In 1904, Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism, was granted an audience with Pope St. Pius X. His purpose in meeting with the Pope was to gain support for the founding of a Jewish state in what was then known as Palestine. As Herzl recorded in his diary, the Pope gave an unfavorable response, saying: “We are unable to favor this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem – but we could never sanction it. The ground of Jerusalem, if it were not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people. And so if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with churches and priests to baptize all of you." ( This response might smack of “anti-Semitism” to modern ears, which are ultra-sensitive to criticisms of Zionism. However, as Catholics, we should give deep consideration to the theological and moral implications of the words of this pope-saint. While many Protestant groups are now giving wholesale support of Zionism, Catholics must recognize the inherent dangers to their faith that Zionism presents.
First of all, as Catholics, we must recognize that the Catholic Church is the New Israel. In fact, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, citing the Vatican II decree entitled Ad Gentes, refers to the Church in this way, stating, “Jesus instituted the Twelve as ‘the seeds of the new Israel and the beginning of the sacred hierarchy’” (paragraph 877). Likewise, in his first epistle, St. Peter applies terms formerly reserved for the Jewish people to the followers of Christ, thus explicitly pointing out the Church’s place as the New Israel: “you are a chosen generation, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation, a purchased people” (1 Peter 2:9). Clearly, we can see that it has been the traditional Catholic understanding that this title, “New Israel,” belongs to the Church. Implicitly, the Jewish people are no longer “the chosen people” or the “most beloved children of God.” To confirm this, the temple of Jerusalem was providentially destroyed by the Romans in the year 70 AD. This essentially destroyed the old Israel as a nation, because without a temple, it could no longer offer sacrifices to please God."

GSB: DCDave's Column

Church might still prefer to control Jerusalem, for the sake of peace, but thankfully attitudes at the Vatican have changed in the last century.

"(Reuters) - The Vatican hailed the United Nations' implicit recognition of a Palestinian state on Thursday and called for an internationally guaranteed special status for Jerusalem, something bound to irritate Israel.....But it also said it was a "propitious occasion" to recall a "common position" on Jerusalem expressed by the Vatican and the Palestine Liberation Organisation when the two sides signed a basic agreement on their bilateral relations in 2000....Thursday's statement called for "an internationally guaranteed special statute" for Jerusalem, aimed at "safeguarding the freedom of religion and of conscience, the identity and sacred character of Jerusalem as a Holy City, (and) respect for, and freedom of, access to its holy places."....The Vatican's re-stating of its position on Jerusalem, which has remained mostly dormant for years, was bound to irk Israel, "

Vatican Hails UN Palestinian State Vote, Calls For Special Status For Jerusalem

 

[Sally]

"Roman Catholicism and Zionism are Irreconcilable"


"In 1904, Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism, was granted an audience with Pope St. Pius X. His purpose in meeting with the Pope was to gain support for the founding of a Jewish state in what was then known as Palestine. As Herzl recorded in his diary, the Pope gave an unfavorable response, saying: “We are unable to favor this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem – but we could never sanction it. The ground of Jerusalem, if it were not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people. And so if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with churches and priests to baptize all of you." ( This response might smack of “anti-Semitism” to modern ears, which are ultra-sensitive to criticisms of Zionism. However, as Catholics, we should give deep consideration to the theological and moral implications of the words of this pope-saint. While many Protestant groups are now giving wholesale support of Zionism, Catholics must recognize the inherent dangers to their faith that Zionism presents.
First of all, as Catholics, we must recognize that the Catholic Church is the New Israel. In fact, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, citing the Vatican II decree entitled Ad Gentes, refers to the Church in this way, stating, “Jesus instituted the Twelve as ‘the seeds of the new Israel and the beginning of the sacred hierarchy’” (paragraph 877). Likewise, in his first epistle, St. Peter applies terms formerly reserved for the Jewish people to the followers of Christ, thus explicitly pointing out the Church’s place as the New Israel: “you are a chosen generation, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation, a purchased people” (1 Peter 2:9). Clearly, we can see that it has been the traditional Catholic understanding that this title, “New Israel,” belongs to the Church. Implicitly, the Jewish people are no longer “the chosen people” or the “most beloved children of God.” To confirm this, the temple of Jerusalem was providentially destroyed by the Romans in the year 70 AD. This essentially destroyed the old Israel as a nation, because without a temple, it could no longer offer sacrifices to please God."

GSB: DCDave's Column

Church might still prefer to control Jerusalem, for the sake of peace, but thankfully attitudes at the Vatican have changed in the last century.

"(Reuters) - The Vatican hailed the United Nations' implicit recognition of a Palestinian state on Thursday and called for an internationally guaranteed special status for Jerusalem, something bound to irritate Israel.....But it also said it was a "propitious occasion" to recall a "common position" on Jerusalem expressed by the Vatican and the Palestine Liberation Organisation when the two sides signed a basic agreement on their bilateral relations in 2000....Thursday's statement called for "an internationally guaranteed special statute" for Jerusalem, aimed at "safeguarding the freedom of religion and of conscience, the identity and sacred character of Jerusalem as a Holy City, (and) respect for, and freedom of, access to its holy places."....The Vatican's re-stating of its position on Jerusalem, which has remained mostly dormant for years, was bound to irk Israel, "

Vatican Hails UN Palestinian State Vote, Calls For Special Status For Jerusalem

And meanwhile the Pope is worried nowadays about what is happening to the Christians in the Middle East. After all, people would have to be comatose not to realize that Haniya's newly adopted brethren have murdered and are still murdering many Christians in the Middle East, and there have been so many articles by Christians leaders about this. I would imagine that most people would hate to be a Copt, an Assyrian, a Greek Orthodox, or a member of any Christian group in the Muslim Middle East these days. Your life would be at risk. Let us all hope that Pope Francis will be safe on his trip to the Middle East.