eagle1462010
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Good question and one I'm sure they are talking about. They know it can't go on forever......might be something there they aren't saying.................And 6 months from now who will be the one with less damage..........both sides of the equation.............Sweden.......Brazil.............yeah they are doing just that.........They are the lab experiments........'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the moneyI would not expect a liberal to understand free enterpriseEssential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.Non essential to who?I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence
~S~But you cant have it both waysKind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War III guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!
like me> non essential, & wanting to work?Remember unemployed people
Grand, take a few months of w/out paySomeone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.
and get back to us then
~S~
Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.
There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.
if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you
there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with
but they dont represent most Americans
libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums
Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.
There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.
I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.
Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.
they are cluelessI wrote:I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detestI am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take backThats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with youBullshitIs so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdownI would not expect a liberal to understand free enterpriseEssential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.Non essential to who?I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence
~S~But you cant have it both waysKind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War III guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!
like me> non essential, & wanting to work?Remember unemployed people
Grand, take a few months of w/out paySomeone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.
and get back to us then
~S~
Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.
There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.
if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you
there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with
but they dont represent most Americans
libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums
Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.
I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.
Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure
I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.
Your attitude reflects the opposite.
But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?
you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind
What the hell are you talking about?
I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.
Was I not being PC enough for you?
“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”
and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage
you clearly have led a sheltered life
yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.
And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.
Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.
Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?
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During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.
Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.
Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.
Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.
The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.
So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.
No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.
And some are wanting the healthy to get infected so that they can get over it and not be able to spread it ever again...........
Bolsonaro isnt brave. He’s a goddamn lunatic.
Sweden is making modified precautions but they have reason to rest a little easier given their affluent population, sparse population and highly functional health system. If only we had those advantages...
They are refusing to kill the economy over this...........they are refusing to shut down..........many have said this.............Some are doing it...............
History will decide by how this goes down ..........not your rambling.........might be the worst decision or it may be the best..............we are gonna find out.........and we can't stay shut down forever........we are only delaying the inevitable..............unless the summer shuts it down a bit.
It would be interesting to listen in on the conversations Fauci et.al. are having regarding target numbers. At want point do we call it? What are we considering "acceptable losses"? It seems like what they're mostly concerned with is the impact on health care services. They want to throttle the spread so hospitals are overwhelmed.
At some point, we'll need to go back to normal (or define a new normal) and find a way to live with the new disease.
Might be streamlined HAIL MARRY MOTHER OF GRACE VACCINE PASS..........Some are already in Human trials.................I think they roll the dice early there.