POLL: Open the economy up and go back to work - Stay home and shutdown

[U2Edge]

The Unthinkable Cruelty and Inhumanity of the Coerced Shutdown
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On Wednesday of this week a prominent oyster provider for D.C. area restaurants was forced to let 350+ workers go. Readers can likely imagine that more than a few lack any kind of familial safety net. It’s also not unreasonable to guess that many won’t be receiving a $1,200 check on account of the under-the-table nature of their employment.

Such is the cruelty of economic contractions care of overdone hysteria and political force. The reverberations are broad. The seen is the empty restaurants; that, or restaurants reduced to a fraction of their former capacity in the form of curbside takeout. The unseen is, among other things, the brutality endured by the suppliers of those restaurants. Sick-inducing is that the 350 workers mentioned above are but a fraction of the total number who will have to figure out ways to get by without a paycheck given the forced shutdown of all “nonessential” businesses in various parts of the country. That all too many of these businesses were open, and thriving not too many weeks ago, is a reminder that politicians have a different understanding of “essential” than do investors, business heads, and employees.

.

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Go to a hospital in New York City where they are running out of supplies and people are dying in such large numbers they had to bring in freezer trucks to hold all the bodies that are piling up. 500 dead a day now. Expected to up to 2,000 dead a day in two weeks. Had we locked up and stayed home a month earlier than this, these deaths would not be happening.

 

[WEATHER53]

The Unthinkable Cruelty and Inhumanity of the Coerced Shutdown
View attachment 317656

On Wednesday of this week a prominent oyster provider for D.C. area restaurants was forced to let 350+ workers go. Readers can likely imagine that more than a few lack any kind of familial safety net. It’s also not unreasonable to guess that many won’t be receiving a $1,200 check on account of the under-the-table nature of their employment.

Such is the cruelty of economic contractions care of overdone hysteria and political force. The reverberations are broad. The seen is the empty restaurants; that, or restaurants reduced to a fraction of their former capacity in the form of curbside takeout. The unseen is, among other things, the brutality endured by the suppliers of those restaurants. Sick-inducing is that the 350 workers mentioned above are but a fraction of the total number who will have to figure out ways to get by without a paycheck given the forced shutdown of all “nonessential” businesses in various parts of the country. That all too many of these businesses were open, and thriving not too many weeks ago, is a reminder that politicians have a different understanding of “essential” than do investors, business heads, and employees.

.

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Go to a hospital in New York City where they are running out of supplies and people are dying in such large numbers they had to bring in freezer trucks to hold all the bodies that are piling up. 500 dead a day now. Expected to up to 2,000 dead a day in two weeks. Had we locked up and stayed home a month earlier than this, these deaths would not be happening.

Speculative nonsense just as all of this overreactive farce has been

 

[sparky]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

 

[U2Edge]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

 

[U2Edge]

The Unthinkable Cruelty and Inhumanity of the Coerced Shutdown
View attachment 317656

On Wednesday of this week a prominent oyster provider for D.C. area restaurants was forced to let 350+ workers go. Readers can likely imagine that more than a few lack any kind of familial safety net. It’s also not unreasonable to guess that many won’t be receiving a $1,200 check on account of the under-the-table nature of their employment.

Such is the cruelty of economic contractions care of overdone hysteria and political force. The reverberations are broad. The seen is the empty restaurants; that, or restaurants reduced to a fraction of their former capacity in the form of curbside takeout. The unseen is, among other things, the brutality endured by the suppliers of those restaurants. Sick-inducing is that the 350 workers mentioned above are but a fraction of the total number who will have to figure out ways to get by without a paycheck given the forced shutdown of all “nonessential” businesses in various parts of the country. That all too many of these businesses were open, and thriving not too many weeks ago, is a reminder that politicians have a different understanding of “essential” than do investors, business heads, and employees.

.

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Go to a hospital in New York City where they are running out of supplies and people are dying in such large numbers they had to bring in freezer trucks to hold all the bodies that are piling up. 500 dead a day now. Expected to up to 2,000 dead a day in two weeks. Had we locked up and stayed home a month earlier than this, these deaths would not be happening.

Speculative nonsense just as all of this overreactive farce has been

The figures are not speculative, they are real. Over 500 people have died from this virus today in the United States.

 

[MisterBeale]

You saying there is a vaccine?

it appears so....

Annual deaths from influenza are 20-60k. It would take 20 years to get to 1.7 million deaths.

As you can see, your claim that COVID isn’t going to kill as many as influenza is unsupported.

so why incite the public into a panic, and literally stop the productive worker ant(s) from producing?
~S~

I think that is all Trump was trying to do, not scare the pants off people so that they refuse to go to work even though its relatively safe.

Cuomo had an upbeat presser today.
1. More people leaving the hospital each of the last 8-days.
2. Fewer people entering the hospitals the last few days. (a trend or a blip? we'll know next week)

Not to jinx us, but it looks from the last few days that the US curve is bending downward to a peak, like the EU appears to be doing. We'll know that in the next week or two.
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I would say information like this is why the lockdowns must continue. We might, just might be starting to make some headway against this thing. Here is some other good information to report.

The percentage rate of increase in confirmed cases per day has been declining for a few days now:

March 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase

Is that the infection, or unemployment rate going up daily?

Get ready to not have things, dumbass. You asked for it, begged for it, even.

Those are called NON-ESSENTIAL THINGS! The Essential services economy is booming!

When folks need money to buy food to eat, and money to pay their bills? IT'S ALL ESSENTIAL.

The check from the government will replace that. Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II.

We're all getting about $1,200 until we get back to work, which may be some time in May.
I hope you have a money tree in your home.

It won't be May. It will be July at the earliest, and it will be done slowly. In the mean time, the economy for essential services is booming!

It's all essential to someone. . . .

. . . and if it goes on that long? There will be a general revolt.

They will have to shut down the internet, folks won't tolerate the lies for that long. This illness just isn't that deadly, the numbers are being fudged.

. . . any death that is recorded, is being falsely pinned on it. I have already seen folks that work in the hospitals come clean and admit, if someone dies of a heart attack or stroke, but they happen to have this? Then the cause of death is put down as Covid-19 so the commie's can take over.

Eventually, folks won't be happy with funny money anymore. They will realize, this is just an excuse to remake the entire system, and you and your pals will be dragged out in the streets if you do not stop this madness. . .

 

[MisterBeale]

The Unthinkable Cruelty and Inhumanity of the Coerced Shutdown
View attachment 317656

On Wednesday of this week a prominent oyster provider for D.C. area restaurants was forced to let 350+ workers go. Readers can likely imagine that more than a few lack any kind of familial safety net. It’s also not unreasonable to guess that many won’t be receiving a $1,200 check on account of the under-the-table nature of their employment.

Such is the cruelty of economic contractions care of overdone hysteria and political force. The reverberations are broad. The seen is the empty restaurants; that, or restaurants reduced to a fraction of their former capacity in the form of curbside takeout. The unseen is, among other things, the brutality endured by the suppliers of those restaurants. Sick-inducing is that the 350 workers mentioned above are but a fraction of the total number who will have to figure out ways to get by without a paycheck given the forced shutdown of all “nonessential” businesses in various parts of the country. That all too many of these businesses were open, and thriving not too many weeks ago, is a reminder that politicians have a different understanding of “essential” than do investors, business heads, and employees.

.

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Go to a hospital in New York City where they are running out of supplies and people are dying in such large numbers they had to bring in freezer trucks to hold all the bodies that are piling up. 500 dead a day now. Expected to up to 2,000 dead a day in two weeks. Had we locked up and stayed home a month earlier than this, these deaths would not be happening.

Speculative nonsense just as all of this overreactive farce has been

The figures are not speculative, they are real. Over 500 people have died from this virus today in the United States.

Prove it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They will have to shut down the internet, folks won't tolerate the lies for that long. This illness just isn't that deadly, the numbers are being fudged.

I agree with that. I picked up this article from a Facebook friend. I didn't have a chance to figure it all out, but since you made this comment, I thought you'd like to take a look at it. I glanced at it, and it looked pretty interesting, but I didn't have time to do the research.

What the Media Isn't Telling You About the United States' Coronavirus Case Numbers

pjmedia.com

 

[Marion Morrison]

You saying there is a vaccine?

it appears so....

Annual deaths from influenza are 20-60k. It would take 20 years to get to 1.7 million deaths.

As you can see, your claim that COVID isn’t going to kill as many as influenza is unsupported.

so why incite the public into a panic, and literally stop the productive worker ant(s) from producing?
~S~

I think that is all Trump was trying to do, not scare the pants off people so that they refuse to go to work even though its relatively safe.

Cuomo had an upbeat presser today.
1. More people leaving the hospital each of the last 8-days.
2. Fewer people entering the hospitals the last few days. (a trend or a blip? we'll know next week)

Not to jinx us, but it looks from the last few days that the US curve is bending downward to a peak, like the EU appears to be doing. We'll know that in the next week or two.
View attachment 316848

I would say information like this is why the lockdowns must continue. We might, just might be starting to make some headway against this thing. Here is some other good information to report.

The percentage rate of increase in confirmed cases per day has been declining for a few days now:

March 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase

Is that the infection, or unemployment rate going up daily?

Get ready to not have things, dumbass. You asked for it, begged for it, even.

Those are called NON-ESSENTIAL THINGS! The Essential services economy is booming!

When folks need money to buy food to eat, and money to pay their bills? IT'S ALL ESSENTIAL.

The check from the government will replace that. Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II.

We're all getting about $1,200 until we get back to work, which may be some time in May.
I hope you have a money tree in your home.

It won't be May. It will be July at the earliest, and it will be done slowly. In the mean time, the economy for essential services is booming!

You are such a Commie turd.

Just look at you gleefully celebrating almost all wage-earner jobs being lost. What a fucking traitorous asshole!

Bring back hanging for seditious pieces of crap, I say!

 

[sparky]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

So what do you do that is so 'essential' to keep food on your table, allowing YOU the luxury of telling lowly construction sorts like myself to go pound sand ?

~S~

 

[sparky]

There will be a general revolt.

~S~

 

[Marion Morrison]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

So what do you do that is so 'essential' to keep food on your table, allowing YOU the luxury of telling lowly construction sorts like myself to go pound sand ?

~S~

Yeah, inquiring minds want to know.

 

[sparky]

They will have to shut down the internet, folks won't tolerate the lies for that long. This illness just isn't that deadly, the numbers are being fudged.

I agree with that. I picked up this article from a Facebook friend. I didn't have a chance to figure it all out, but since you made this comment, I thought you'd like to take a look at it. I glanced at it, and it looked pretty interesting, but I didn't have time to do the research.

What the Media Isn't Telling You About the United States' Coronavirus Case Numbers

pjmedia.com

I served through multiple 'pandemics' Ray

what i'm seeing now is a unprecedented response

i'm not impressed

~S~

 

[MisterBeale]

They will have to shut down the internet, folks won't tolerate the lies for that long. This illness just isn't that deadly, the numbers are being fudged.

I agree with that. I picked up this article from a Facebook friend. I didn't have a chance to figure it all out, but since you made this comment, I thought you'd like to take a look at it. I glanced at it, and it looked pretty interesting, but I didn't have time to do the research.

What the Media Isn't Telling You About the United States' Coronavirus Case Numbers

pjmedia.com

I read quite a bit. Already read that one.

Did you get around to reading THIS ONE?
12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic

12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic

Here is our list of twelve medical experts whose opinions on the Coronavirus outbreak contradict the official narratives of the MSM, and the memes so prevalent on social media.

off-guardian.org

OR this one?

10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=4234ded9e33f8a7650807aadc3f5c2793eaac877-1585704833-0-AU1Lr61MZMiyMVufDhoqIyuwCHH6KkssS7SXoIUi99ATPg6dYS_unA7bLJggpDk9P3Hr_N1qD3eRwU7pAIR3XssINCSIXj09HOfGc0iBP7KFTD3lVE-gZ-ScqYhKZ9sMkZLhU2A2OmypvaZu2na7ijFhGSoHjU3-Qr0mBQYycjF1HHDQN4A7GhRAdBA7hxvntZMnDhAAWlWoHpirOJIJHzKp0xlQEL_02zkm1cRcsL2B6Q7in5nURnl0-WqHsuOuCii6S3drtTHa3swDbXkDYoK60uTkwpjhql2KOVUcc1EVNJCw2OLDkPveEdEuP0TouTvfQEXbgIFEu7GnfFhFG6knAEjLjfePnEgDkBYxWCBp

 

[MisterBeale]

There will be a general revolt.

~S~

“People have said, 'mobs are crazy, you can't tell what they'll do. ' Why don't people look at mobs not as men, but as mobs? A mob nearly always seems to act reasonably, for a mob.”

- Steinbeck

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There will be a general revolt.

~S~

“People have said, 'mobs are crazy, you can't tell what they'll do. ' Why don't people look at mobs not as men, but as mobs? A mob nearly always seems to act reasonably, for a mob.”

- Steinbeck

No I didn't, but given where my scroll line is, it looks like several hours worth of reading. I appreciate you posting it though.

 

[MisterBeale]

IMO, it is of the gravest importance that everyone familiarize themselves with this information.


On Corona, the Media, and Propaganda
On Corona, the Media, and Propaganda
"Published: 19 March 2020; Languages: DE, EN, ES, HU, RU

In the current situation, the old and proven propaganda rule applies again: the less is known, the more is speculated. For attentive readers, however, this offers an opportunity to assess the standards and focus of different media outlets and authors.

One may ask, for example:

• Who merely counts test-positive case and death figures without asking what these people actually fall ill with or die of?
• Who brings headlines such as „21-year-old football coach dies of coronavirus“ and only mentions in the last sentence that he had undiagnosed leukaemia?
• Who addresses the issue of so-called excess mortality, which is still within or even below the normal range in all countries and age groups?
• Who asks how many additional, unexpected pneumonia patients there are in intensive care units, and what their age and health profile is?
• Who verifies if the number of test-positive people is simply rising proportional to the number of tests, i.e. stays constant in percentage terms?
• Who prefers frightening pictures of viruses, protective suits and coffins rather than actual data, facts and background information?
• Who discusses the well-known problems with virus test kits in general, and the missing clinical validation of the currently used virus test kit in particular?
• Who highlights the problematic role played by the WHO in previous cases, and in this one?
• Who is trying to add a political or geopolitical spin to the current situation?
• Who is still talking about „biological weapons“, even though this scenario has long been ruled out by hardly spectacular death rates and death profiles?

The bioweapons rumor, which has been launched on every occasion for almost forty years, primarily serves a geopolitical and psychological purpose. (See also: History of Biological Warfare)

Simply put, anyone showing exponential charts of the number of test-positive people and deaths is deceiving you (or has been deceived themselves). Only those asking the real questions are to be trusted in the current situation. And there are not many of them.

Medical and military experts asked by SPR recommend keeping three possible scenarios in mind when analyzing current developments („the three P’s“):

1. A pandemic of a dangerous virus
2. A media-induced mass psychosis
3. A potential psychological operation

As an example of recent psychological operations, they mention the repeatedly staged chemical weapons attacks in the Syria war, which have been exposed since 2019 by whistleblowers of the OPCW and other experts, yet without the mass media ever reporting on it.

NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden already warned that the reported corona crisis is used for a massive expansion of global surveillance and control measures, which will not be dismantled afterwards. The Argentinean virologist Pablo Goldschmidt, who lives in France, speaks of a „global media terror“ and „totalitarian measures“.

Continue to Covid19 main article →"

 

[MisterBeale]

I will translate for you. . .

Google Translate

 

[eagle1462010]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

So what do you do that is so 'essential' to keep food on your table, allowing YOU the luxury of telling lowly construction sorts like myself to go pound sand ?

~S~

I put that asshole on ignore..........my list grows........refusing to talk to dickless posters........

I'm in the same boat.........so I'm sure it's I got mine Fuck you...........someday we are going to have a serious disagreement in this country..............The Founding Fathers are very disappointed in us.

 

[eagle1462010]