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I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
This has been the rampant emotion over reasoning and fact that has been in place since Trump won.I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
I'm seeing a lot of discussion but can't figure out who has the majority.
To re-open the US economy in a limited fashion around Easter Monday (4/13/20) with masks, social distancing, no sports venues, no cruises, or major crowds, just minimal re-opening businesses. The object is to keep as many companies in-business as possible.
Trump wants to reopen US businesses in weeks 'not months' even as deaths rise â as it happened
Democrats voted to oppose motion on the coronavirus stimulus bill, while Dr Anthony Fauci and others warn against scaling back social distancingwww.theguardian.com
Or, keep the economy and businesses shutdown until the coronavirus (COVID-19) is under control as recommended by the doctors, even if that means that many businesses would NOT re-open due to the lost revenue and bankruptcy.
We can not let this thing beat us...The economy needs to get going again with the understanding that people must pay attention to their surroundings, and practice good hygine...
The only way to beat this thing, they way it has been proven to be defeated, is through extreme lockdown and testing. Lockdown and Testing are the two pillars. Until the PATHOGEN is defeated, non-essential business is irrelevant. This is a national crises and sacrifices must be made to defeat the enemy.
We won't have a country left if we allow the economy to cease to exist....
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non-essential business does not = U.S. Economy
Think World War II. How many non-essential business's continued after December 7, 1941 and how vital were they to the overall economy?
Why don't you tell me Edge? 1941 is NOT 2020
Its a different year, but that's where the differences end as far as what the government and country can and must do to fight this new ENEMY!
He was impeached.This has been the rampant emotion over reasoning and fact that has been in place since Trump won.I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
Maybe all the baloney from Stormy thru the failed impeachment was a test to see how much slop Americans would slurp up and fall in line about
Wrong!!!I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
We are now "woke" to these fucking viruses and knowing how to mitigate the risks and with the new fast tests frequent testing should allow us to work safely. The old and compromised need to stay safe. The economy needs to crank back up so that we can keep it healthy.
Prove it!!Wrong!!!I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
We are now "woke" to these fucking viruses and knowing how to mitigate the risks and with the new fast tests frequent testing should allow us to work safely. The old and compromised need to stay safe. The economy needs to crank back up so that we can keep it healthy.
You saying there is a vaccine?
it appears so....
so why incite the public into a panic, and literally stop the productive worker ant(s) from producing?Annual deaths from influenza are 20-60k. It would take 20 years to get to 1.7 million deaths.
As you can see, your claim that COVID isn’t going to kill as many as influenza is unsupported.
~S~
I think that is all Trump was trying to do, not scare the pants off people so that they refuse to go to work even though its relatively safe.
Cuomo had an upbeat presser today.
1. More people leaving the hospital each of the last 8-days.
2. Fewer people entering the hospitals the last few days. (a trend or a blip? we'll know next week)
Not to jinx us, but it looks from the last few days that the US curve is bending downward to a peak, like the EU appears to be doing. We'll know that in the next week or two.
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I would say information like this is why the lockdowns must continue. We might, just might be starting to make some headway against this thing. Here is some other good information to report.
The percentage rate of increase in confirmed cases per day has been declining for a few days now:
March 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase
the trend seems to be going the right way. Trump's new date of 4/30 is looking possible.
And you're cool with that? What happened to "we must lift restrictions now!" ? Your lord and master changed his tune and you just dance merrily along?
He never said NOW, he said as soon as its safe. and yes, I am cool with it. We all hoped Easter was doable, but it appears that its not.
what did your lord and master Wolf Blitzer say about it? or was it your lordess and mistress Pelosi?
But just yesterday you said this virus was nothing compared to the seasonal flu and that we should just let old folks die so the economy can get going again. "Survival of the fittest" I believe you said. What changed your mind, drone?
You saying there is a vaccine?
it appears so....
so why incite the public into a panic, and literally stop the productive worker ant(s) from producing?Annual deaths from influenza are 20-60k. It would take 20 years to get to 1.7 million deaths.
As you can see, your claim that COVID isn’t going to kill as many as influenza is unsupported.
~S~
I think that is all Trump was trying to do, not scare the pants off people so that they refuse to go to work even though its relatively safe.
Cuomo had an upbeat presser today.
1. More people leaving the hospital each of the last 8-days.
2. Fewer people entering the hospitals the last few days. (a trend or a blip? we'll know next week)
Not to jinx us, but it looks from the last few days that the US curve is bending downward to a peak, like the EU appears to be doing. We'll know that in the next week or two.
View attachment 316848
I would say information like this is why the lockdowns must continue. We might, just might be starting to make some headway against this thing. Here is some other good information to report.
The percentage rate of increase in confirmed cases per day has been declining for a few days now:
March 24, 2020 - United States - 54,916
March 25, 2020 - United States - 68,489 - 24.7% increase
March 26, 2020 - United States - 85,594 - 24.97% increase
March 27, 2020 - United States - 104,256 - 21.8% increase
March 28, 2020 - United States - 123,776 - 18.7% increase
March 29, 2020 - United States - 142,224 - 14.9% increase
the trend seems to be going the right way. Trump's new date of 4/30 is looking possible.
June 30, 2020 is more realistic. You can't take any chances with this. Its so easy to transmit among people. A choir met for practice in Washington State on March 10, 2020. 60 people came in. They had hand sanitizer, no handshakes or hugs and practice social distancing keeping several feet between each person. No one who came were showing any symptoms.
45 out of the 60 choir members were infected with coronavirus. Of those 5 were hospitalized and two died.
This shows that despite hand cleaning and social distancing, just a couple of people not showing symptoms can infect a large group of people in a building.
No one should be allowed to go back to work at a non-essential service until they have tested NEGATIVE for coronavirus. Thanks to Trump, we don't have the capability to do that yet.
you had a good post going until you added the political bullshit. thanks to Trump and his team, we have more testing capacity than any other country in the world and we are doing more testing than any country in the world.
STFU with the politics and we can beat this thing.
Please stop lying about the testing. You are FOS
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This chart shows the number of COVID-19 tests performed per million of the population (April 06, 2020).www.statista.com
I’m not going to let you crawfish away from this.That's bullshit. If you have a link post itWTF?No its not. the curve is flattening,
Pure bullshit
Do you just lie for the hell of it?
look at the CDC stats. turn off CNN, they are filling your little head with BS.
Otherwise stop lying
CDC’s Worst-Case Coronavirus Model: 214 Million Infected, 1.7 Million Dead
Newly revealed projections warn of a massive potential toll in the U.S., but the worst-case estimate doesn’t factor in recent efforts to respond.nymag.com
From the article:
A recent CDC projection estimated that the U.S. coronavirus epidemic could infect between 160 million and 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and kill anywhere from 200,000 to 1.7 million people in the country.
So much for your claim that the worst case scenario isn’t worse than influenza.
you missed "in more than a year" compare that to 2 years of flu deaths. Those projections are not recent, they are several weeks old and the current ones are significantly lower.
I am not saying we should ignore it, just that the panic is unnecessary.
Annual deaths from influenza are 20-60k. It would take 20 years to get to 1.7 million deaths.
As you can see, your claim that COVID isn’t going to kill as many as influenza is unsupported.
Stats for the USA as of yesterday. From the CDC
142,000 cases of Corona virus
2500 deaths
4800 recoveries
mortality rate 1.75%
18,000,000 flu like illnesses
24.000 deaths
.13% mortality rate
So which one has the biggest impact on Americans and our medical system?
You said the CDC’s worst projections indicated this would be less severe than the influenza. Your own link proves you wrong.
If COVID ends tomorrow, then it’ll clearly have a much smaller impact on Americans than influenza. But that’s unfortunately not going to happen.
that link gave old projections, that have been proven incorrect. The current stats that I posted earlier today give a much more accurate projection.
If you can do basic math, run the numbers for corona and flu out for two more months and see what you get------------then report back and admit that you were wrong.
BTW, the crawfish season is doing quite well in spite of all the restaurants being closed. Take out is booming
Projections yesterday were for 100-200k deaths, by Fauci and the president himself. That’s higher than any recent year’s tally of deaths from influenza by a factor of 2 to 10.
The statistics you just gave were not projections at all but current tallies. Go ahead and provide an updated projection if you think you’re still correct.
They both said that those were worst case projections that Fauci and Brix emphasized were not expected because of what we are doing to reduce the infection rate.
but you are free to panic if it makes you feel good.
No, that is NOT what either Fauci, Birx OR Donald said. 100-200k is the BEST case scenario assuming we do everything PERFECTLY from here on out.
The worst is 1-2 MILLION.
Sure would be nice if Donnie hadn't dithered for over two months y'think?
This statement continues to be very problematic. It’s very short sighted and ignores a lot of information.I said the annual flu kills more people EVERY year and we never shut down the country because of it
He was impeached.This has been the rampant emotion over reasoning and fact that has been in place since Trump won.I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
Maybe all the baloney from Stormy thru the failed impeachment was a test to see how much slop Americans would slurp up and fall in line about
Prove it!!Wrong!!!I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
We are now "woke" to these fucking viruses and knowing how to mitigate the risks and with the new fast tests frequent testing should allow us to work safely. The old and compromised need to stay safe. The economy needs to crank back up so that we can keep it healthy.
The experts are saying we need physical distancing.Prove it!!Wrong!!!I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
We are now "woke" to these fucking viruses and knowing how to mitigate the risks and with the new fast tests frequent testing should allow us to work safely. The old and compromised need to stay safe. The economy needs to crank back up so that we can keep it healthy.
No, he was impeached.He was impeached.This has been the rampant emotion over reasoning and fact that has been in place since Trump won.I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
Maybe all the baloney from Stormy thru the failed impeachment was a test to see how much slop Americans would slurp up and fall in line about
Wrong, he was acquitted of false charges. Acquitted forever. Pelosi lost another one.
This statement continues to be very problematic. It’s very short sighted and ignores a lot of information.I said the annual flu kills more people EVERY year and we never shut down the country because of it
No, he was impeached.He was impeached.This has been the rampant emotion over reasoning and fact that has been in place since Trump won.I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
Maybe all the baloney from Stormy thru the failed impeachment was a test to see how much slop Americans would slurp up and fall in line about
Wrong, he was acquitted of false charges. Acquitted forever. Pelosi lost another one.
at the moment
Prove it!!Wrong!!!I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
We are now "woke" to these fucking viruses and knowing how to mitigate the risks and with the new fast tests frequent testing should allow us to work safely. The old and compromised need to stay safe. The economy needs to crank back up so that we can keep it healthy.The experts are saying we need physical distancing.Prove it!!Wrong!!!I just cannot believe that the vast majority of the people who voted on this thread wanted the economy to open up again. Mankind will be wiped out because of stupidity.
We are now "woke" to these fucking viruses and knowing how to mitigate the risks and with the new fast tests frequent testing should allow us to work safely. The old and compromised need to stay safe. The economy needs to crank back up so that we can keep it healthy.
at the moment
Theres your problem. This is short sighted. You shouldn’t think about this very moment. You should be considering what happens next.
at the moment
Theres your problem. This is short sighted. You shouldn’t think about this very moment. You should be considering what happens next.
So you have a crystal ball that can predict the future? No one knows what happens next. In China and Europe the rate of new infections is dropping, why is that not our future too?at the moment
Theres your problem. This is short sighted. You shouldn’t think about this very moment. You should be considering what happens next.
