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Did DeSantis kill all of his nursing home residents by the thousands because he put once covid hospitalized residents back in to their nursing homes upon hospital release? If not, how did he kill all those nursing home folks in Florida?
It was the New York State Governor Cuomo who sent Covid-19 patients black to the nursing homes to die not DeSantis.

DeSantis Responds to New York Nursing Home Scandal, Explains What (Successful) Approach Florida Took

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis explained Monday he took a vastly differently approach in his state.

”W]e in Florida, we had the exact opposite order. We said you can’t — the hospitals — send a COVID-positive nursing home resident back into the nursing home because that is the most vulnerable population and you obviously would put them in serious risk," he said. "But what we also did after the first few weeks, we established COVID-only nursing units so if you had somebody test positive at a nursing home, they could be safely transferred and isolated, recover, then go back, so that the other residents were protected."

Fox News's Tucker Carlson jumped in, saying it would be “fascinating” to figure out why New York went in the direction they did and DeSantis said he knew exactly why.

"Around mid to late March, we were all given models saying you’re not going to have any hospital beds in five days. Every governor got those models," he recalled. "I questioned the assumptions under those models. I didn’t think that they were valid. I said I’m not going to construct our policy around that. But even if I was wrong, I would build more beds somewhere rather than throw these elderly people back into the fire of a nursing home where they could contaminate and infect a lot of other people. So it was just an important judgment that we were all called upon to make and I think Florida did it right and I think obviously other states took a different path."
 
It was the New York State Governor Cuomo who sent Covid-19 patients black to the nursing homes to die not DeSantis.

DeSantis Responds to New York Nursing Home Scandal, Explains What (Successful) Approach Florida Took

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis explained Monday he took a vastly differently approach in his state.

”W]e in Florida, we had the exact opposite order. We said you can’t — the hospitals — send a COVID-positive nursing home resident back into the nursing home because that is the most vulnerable population and you obviously would put them in serious risk," he said. "But what we also did after the first few weeks, we established COVID-only nursing units so if you had somebody test positive at a nursing home, they could be safely transferred and isolated, recover, then go back, so that the other residents were protected."

Fox News's Tucker Carlson jumped in, saying it would be “fascinating” to figure out why New York went in the direction they did and DeSantis said he knew exactly why.

"Around mid to late March, we were all given models saying you’re not going to have any hospital beds in five days. Every governor got those models," he recalled. "I questioned the assumptions under those models. I didn’t think that they were valid. I said I’m not going to construct our policy around that. But even if I was wrong, I would build more beds somewhere rather than throw these elderly people back into the fire of a nursing home where they could contaminate and infect a lot of other people. So it was just an important judgment that we were all called upon to make and I think Florida did it right and I think obviously other states took a different path."
Yes, that was a good way to handle those in nursing homes with the virus....but DeSantis and a lot of other governors had weeks to months to learn from the mistakes of other states like New York, and New Jersey and Pennsylvania who were the states hit with this unknown, novel virus first.

The early states, were told by the CDC guidelines, to return their covid residents that were once hospitalized to the Home they were residing in before being hospitalized when well enough to be released by the hospital.

The CDC at thE time of the NYC, NJ, PA outbreaks advised states to put the returning covid hospitalized resident once well enough, into an ISOLATED WARD in the resident home, where they did not come in contact with any nursing home residents.

But WHY DID so many die in Florida in all the different nursing homes from covid as well, if Florida's separate nursing home for covid patients worked so well? Who was bringing covid in to their nursing homes to begin with...to cause all the deaths there?

There is a lot of lessons to be learned, and some, on this novel virus.
 
Yes, that was a good way to handle those in nursing homes with the virus....but DeSantis and a lot of other governors had weeks to months to learn from the mistakes of other states like New York, and New Jersey and Pennsylvania who were the states hit with this unknown, novel virus first.

The early states, were told by the CDC guidelines, to return their covid residents that were once hospitalized to the Home they were residing in before being hospitalized when well enough to be released by the hospital.

The CDC at thE time of the NYC, NJ, PA outbreaks advised states to put the returning covid hospitalized resident once well enough, into an ISOLATED WARD in the resident home, where they did not come in contact with any nursing home residents.

But WHY DID so many die in Florida in all the different nursing homes from covid as well, if Florida's separate nursing home for covid patients worked so well? Who was bringing covid in to their nursing homes to begin with...to cause all the deaths there?

There is a lot of lessons to be learned, and some, on this novel virus.
COVID-19 originally was most deadly to older people with certain ailments. Those in nursing homes often fit the profile for people at serious risk from the coronavirus.

However FAR fewer nursing home patients died in Florida than New York.


At around the time New York’s state health department under Gov. Andrew Cuomo issued a directive prohibiting nursing homes from testing recovering coronavirus patients prior to admission, Florida under Gov. Ron DeSantis issued its own executive order strictly regulating incoming patients to protect those facilities from the epidemic.

About a month and a half later, the differences are staggering. The latest tallies show that in Florida 745 residents and staff at long-term care facilities across the state have died from coronavirus although the numbers continue to rise in the state and nationwide. This compared to New York’s 5,300 dead in nursing homes.

Florida has one of the nation’s largest elderly populations and is more populous than New York. The Sunshine State hosts over 4,400 nursing homes and assisted living facilities containing over 151,000 residents.

Cuomo is facing increasing criticism as the state’s elderly care facilities have been devastated by coronavirus.

And he’s been forced in recent days to reverse a controversial March 25 directive requiring nursing homes to take recovering coronavirus patients.
 
COVID-19 originally was most deadly to older people with certain ailments. Those in nursing homes often fit the profile for people at serious risk from the coronavirus.

However FAR fewer nursing home patients died in Florida than New York.


At around the time New York’s state health department under Gov. Andrew Cuomo issued a directive prohibiting nursing homes from testing recovering coronavirus patients prior to admission, Florida under Gov. Ron DeSantis issued its own executive order strictly regulating incoming patients to protect those facilities from the epidemic.

About a month and a half later, the differences are staggering. The latest tallies show that in Florida 745 residents and staff at long-term care facilities across the state have died from coronavirus although the numbers continue to rise in the state and nationwide. This compared to New York’s 5,300 dead in nursing homes.

Florida has one of the nation’s largest elderly populations and is more populous than New York. The Sunshine State hosts over 4,400 nursing homes and assisted living facilities containing over 151,000 residents.

Cuomo is facing increasing criticism as the state’s elderly care facilities have been devastated by coronavirus.

And he’s been forced in recent days to reverse a controversial March 25 directive requiring nursing homes to take recovering coronavirus patients.
Florida, bragged a little too early....they only had 745 deaths at the time.....lets see how they faired with their senior living homes after putting his wonderful plan in place....

Oops! 11,530 covid deaths in nursing homes, till they STOPPED COUNTING.


Florida no longer tracking COVID-19 nursing home data​

By Cait McVey Tampa
PUBLISHED 5:21 PM ET Jun. 15, 2021



Last month, Spectrum News reported the state was scaling back to weekly posts of COVID-19 long-term care data. But now we’ve learned not only is that data no longer being posted, but it’s not even being collected.

What You Need To Know

  • Florida is no longer collecting or tracking COVID-19 case numbers in nursing home and assisted living facilities
  • Facilities were told on June 4 they no longer need to report data
  • Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is still tracking data on a national level
  • Previous Coverage: State numbers show COVID-19 cases rising again in nursing homes


For the better part of the pandemic, Spectrum News 9 used the data from the state to track COVID-19 cases in long-term care. At last check, more than 11,530 total deaths related to COVID-19 have been counted for either residents or staff of those facilities.
The state recorded that number on June 3, the last day it released the data, despite telling our news outlet just days before that the information would still be included in new weekly updates.
“With COVID-19 vaccines now freely available, we are in a much better place than we were in Spring 2020,” said Christina Pushaw, a spokesperson for Governor Ron DeSantis, on May 27th. “We are reporting the COVID-19 LTCF data on a weekly basis going forward.”
But on June 4, the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA), which oversees the state’s long-term care facilities, sent out an alert letting providers know that as of June 5, they would no longer need to report COVID-19 related data to the state’s Emergency Status System (ESS).
“The data is clear that Florida’s health care facilities are well-positioned to transition to pre-pandemic activities,” said AHCA spokesperson Tiffany Vause. “As of June 4, 0.12% of nursing home and assisted living residents were COVID positive. There was a 50% decrease in COVID positive residents in SNFs and ALFs the last 30 days.”
Still, family advocates warn the lack of transparency through daily or even weekly public reports comes at a critical time for residents and staff who have been disproportionately affected by the pandemic.
“They’re going to be just as much in the dark about what’s happening in these nursing homes and assisted living as families are going to be,” said Brian Lee, the director of advocacy group Families for Better Care. “A stick your head in the sand approach to COVID is not going to work in nursing homes because we still have a significant number of employees who are still unvaccinated.”
Vause confirmed staff and resident vaccination rates are also no longer being collected from long-term care facilities. At last check, the statewide rate for nursing homes was just over 40 percent. According to data still being collected at the federal level by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, that number puts Florida in the bottom three states nationwide
 
Florida, bragged a little too early....they only had 745 deaths at the time.....lets see how they faired with their senior living homes after putting his wonderful plan in place....

Oops! 11,530 covid deaths in nursing homes, till they STOPPED COUNTING.


Florida no longer tracking COVID-19 nursing home data​

By Cait McVey Tampa
PUBLISHED 5:21 PM ET Jun. 15, 2021



Last month, Spectrum News reported the state was scaling back to weekly posts of COVID-19 long-term care data. But now we’ve learned not only is that data no longer being posted, but it’s not even being collected.

What You Need To Know

  • Florida is no longer collecting or tracking COVID-19 case numbers in nursing home and assisted living facilities
  • Facilities were told on June 4 they no longer need to report data
  • Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is still tracking data on a national level
  • Previous Coverage: State numbers show COVID-19 cases rising again in nursing homes


For the better part of the pandemic, Spectrum News 9 used the data from the state to track COVID-19 cases in long-term care. At last check, more than 11,530 total deaths related to COVID-19 have been counted for either residents or staff of those facilities.
The state recorded that number on June 3, the last day it released the data, despite telling our news outlet just days before that the information would still be included in new weekly updates.
“With COVID-19 vaccines now freely available, we are in a much better place than we were in Spring 2020,” said Christina Pushaw, a spokesperson for Governor Ron DeSantis, on May 27th. “We are reporting the COVID-19 LTCF data on a weekly basis going forward.”
But on June 4, the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA), which oversees the state’s long-term care facilities, sent out an alert letting providers know that as of June 5, they would no longer need to report COVID-19 related data to the state’s Emergency Status System (ESS).
“The data is clear that Florida’s health care facilities are well-positioned to transition to pre-pandemic activities,” said AHCA spokesperson Tiffany Vause. “As of June 4, 0.12% of nursing home and assisted living residents were COVID positive. There was a 50% decrease in COVID positive residents in SNFs and ALFs the last 30 days.”
Still, family advocates warn the lack of transparency through daily or even weekly public reports comes at a critical time for residents and staff who have been disproportionately affected by the pandemic.
“They’re going to be just as much in the dark about what’s happening in these nursing homes and assisted living as families are going to be,” said Brian Lee, the director of advocacy group Families for Better Care. “A stick your head in the sand approach to COVID is not going to work in nursing homes because we still have a significant number of employees who are still unvaccinated.”
Vause confirmed staff and resident vaccination rates are also no longer being collected from long-term care facilities. At last check, the statewide rate for nursing homes was just over 40 percent. According to data still being collected at the federal level by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, that number puts Florida in the bottom three states nationwide
So according to your article 11,530 Florida nursing hone patents had died and this figure was questionable.

For the better part of the pandemic, Spectrum News 9 used the data from the state to track COVID-19 cases in long-term care. At last check, more than 11,530 total deaths related to COVID-19 have been counted for either residents or staff of those facilities.

However in New York State more nursing home patients died and New York has a lower population than Florida and fewer nursing homes. Plus there is a good possibility that the New York numbers are an underestimate.


Back then, Cuomo insisted just 8,500 residents of nursing homes and other facilities died of COVID and refused to provide relevant data. Not until a review by state Attorney General Letitia James in January showed Cuomo hid thousands of nursing-home deaths — and a court ordered the release of additional info — was the number revised to 15,000.

***snip***

Alas, even at this point, Cuomo is still hiding his record on COVID, which is why the state counts only confirmed, and not suspected, COVID deaths, letting it claim a toll of “only” 43,000 New Yorkers, and not 54,000, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention put it.

His despicable treatment of his 11 sex-harassment accusers was horrible enough. But the nursing-home fiasco likely led to hundreds of deaths. New Yorkers need the full story. Pronto.


Here is the New York Attorney General’s report on COVID-19 and nursing homes.

 
So according to your article 11,530 Florida nursing hone patents had died and this figure was questionable.

For the better part of the pandemic, Spectrum News 9 used the data from the state to track COVID-19 cases in long-term care. At last check, more than 11,530 total deaths related to COVID-19 have been counted for either residents or staff of those facilities.

However in New York State more nursing home patients died and New York has a lower population than Florida and fewer nursing homes. Plus there is a good possibility that the New York numbers are an underestimate.


Back then, Cuomo insisted just 8,500 residents of nursing homes and other facilities died of COVID and refused to provide relevant data. Not until a review by state Attorney General Letitia James in January showed Cuomo hid thousands of nursing-home deaths — and a court ordered the release of additional info — was the number revised to 15,000.

***snip***

Alas, even at this point, Cuomo is still hiding his record on COVID, which is why the state counts only confirmed, and not suspected, COVID deaths, letting it claim a toll of “only” 43,000 New Yorkers, and not 54,000, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention put it.

His despicable treatment of his 11 sex-harassment accusers was horrible enough. But the nursing-home fiasco likely led to hundreds of deaths. New Yorkers need the full story. Pronto.


Here is the New York Attorney General’s report on COVID-19 and nursing homes.

Cuomo covered up his figures on nursing home deaths by counting the ones who died in the hospital as hospital deaths instead of counting them as nursing home resident deaths.

Pretty scummy!

What you do not know is putting nursing home residents who were sent to the hospital with covid, back in to the nursing homes when the hospital released them, in to a separate covid ward from the other nursing home patients, caused a single nursing home patient to catch covid from them.

There is not one single study that has shown covid patients in isolation wards or wings of the nursing home, caused any spread in the nursing homes.

My point in mentioning the 11500 killed in F!orida nursing homes....was to show you that without sending nursing home residents back to an isolation ward in a home, but sending them to a separate nursing home solely for covid patients, as they did in Florida, it did not stop the rapid spread of covid infections in the Florida nursing homes throughout the state.

Covid was coming in to the nursing homes, infecting and killing residents, Via other means...from the outside.
 
Cuomo covered up his figures on nursing home deaths by counting the ones who died in the hospital as hospital deaths instead of counting them as nursing home resident deaths.

Pretty scummy!

What you do not know is putting nursing home residents who were sent to the hospital with covid, back in to the nursing homes when the hospital released them, in to a separate covid ward from the other nursing home patients, caused a single nursing home patient to catch covid from them.

There is not one single study that has shown covid patients in isolation wards or wings of the nursing home, caused any spread in the nursing homes.

My point in mentioning the 11500 killed in F!orida nursing homes....was to show you that without sending nursing home residents back to an isolation ward in a home, but sending them to a separate nursing home solely for covid patients, as they did in Florida, it did not stop the rapid spread of covid infections in the Florida nursing homes throughout the state.

Covid was coming in to the nursing homes, infecting and killing residents, Via other means...from the outside.
I know some people who have a relative in a Florida nursing home and for quite a long period of time they were not allowed to visit her.

 
Yes, that was a good way to handle those in nursing homes with the virus....but DeSantis and a lot of other governors had weeks to months to learn from the mistakes of other states like New York, and New Jersey and Pennsylvania who were the states hit with this unknown, novel virus first.

The early states, were told by the CDC guidelines, to return their covid residents that were once hospitalized to the Home they were residing in before being hospitalized when well enough to be released by the hospital.

The CDC at thE time of the NYC, NJ, PA outbreaks advised states to put the returning covid hospitalized resident once well enough, into an ISOLATED WARD in the resident home, where they did not come in contact with any nursing home residents.

But WHY DID so many die in Florida in all the different nursing homes from covid as well, if Florida's separate nursing home for covid patients worked so well? Who was bringing covid in to their nursing homes to begin with...to cause all the deaths there?

There is a lot of lessons to be learned, and some, on this novel virus.
So De Santis learned from Cuomo's debacle?? OK; fair enough. Seems Cuomo hasn't learned anything.

Greg
 

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