[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

[RKMBrown]

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

ROFL Big "L" Loooser! hehe Obuma what a dumb ass he is. He probably did believe we could keep our insurance plans after he regulated them out of existence. ROFL guy's a dumb ass. Probably due to to much cocaine & weed.

You sound exactly like someone I recently observed that didn't take her antipsychotic meds. She too got all distracted in her rants, talking about illegal drugs.

So you are actually suppose to be taking antipsychotic meds.. You are unable to concentrate appropriately and go off on irrelevant tangents.

And you sound exactly like some looser socialists I know who never amounted to a hill of beans in life.

 

[itfitzme]

Lol the great deal of free health care paying no taxes and voting for whoever you want while not proving you're a citizen.



Meanwhile the people working have to get healthcare and pay for the freeloaders by being overcharged by a blanket law that didn't actually address any of the real issues it was touted as fixing.



Yes I can see why people are jumping the border for the great deal over here.

So you have read PPACA, or at least the table of contents, and can identify what parts of the healthcare markets are addressed and which are not?

You're really good at dumb questions.

Please pose an actual rebuttal if you disagree with what I said.

So you haven't read it. Nor have you posed an actual rebuttal to anything. All you have done is make unsubstantiated, overgeneralized, and meaningless claims about a subject for which you have absolutely actual knowledge.

I ask the "dumb" questions as complex questions, even simple ones, are beyond you capability.

You may ask me the question and the answer is yes, along with Money flow, Supply, Demand, and Market inefficiencies.

 

[itfitzme]

ROFL Big "L" Loooser! hehe Obuma what a dumb ass he is. He probably did believe we could keep our insurance plans after he regulated them out of existence. ROFL guy's a dumb ass. Probably due to to much cocaine & weed.

You sound exactly like someone I recently observed that didn't take her antipsychotic meds. She too got all distracted in her rants, talking about illegal drugs.

So you are actually suppose to be taking antipsychotic meds.. You are unable to concentrate appropriately and go off on irrelevant tangents.

And you sound exactly like some looser socialists I know who never amounted to a hill of beans in life.

Well, the opinion of someone that is off of their perscribed anti psychotics and is unable to focus really doesn't mean anything. You aren't able to judge what other people are about.

You are still living with some rape and bondage fantacy.

 

[PMZ]

ROFL Obama is so bad he can't even show his college records.

And your proof? Why should he?

By what principle of freedom and liberty, by what Constitutional principle, should he?

ROFL Big "L" Loooser! hehe Obuma what a dumb ass he is. He probably did believe we could keep our insurance plans after he regulated them out of existence. ROFL guy's a dumb ass. Probably due to to much cocaine & weed.

We realize how difficult it is to defend Bush and Texas. I honestly can't think of any alternative that you have more effective than insulting everybody who thinks for themselves.

Tragic, but true.

 

[PMZ]

I don't know what fixing government even is. .

Then why did you tell us that Obama has "... fixed all that government can of the wreck that Bush left. And addressed our biggest national economic competitiveness anchor, health care."

The truth is, Obama has repeatedly ignored the rule of law and has imposed his will upon the people without their consent, impinging upon their inalienable right to make their own medical and health care decision.

If you disagree, I am sure you will defend your opinion and cite to us when the American People debated granting power to our federal government to regulate their fundamental right to make their own medical and healthcare decisions and choices! And, after having this debate, you will explain how this regulatory power was granted within the limits of Article V of our Constitution, which is the only way for our federal government to exercise new powers. Without this part of our Constitution being adhered to in passing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act it cannot be said to be a law passed in “pursuance” of our Constitution, which our Constitution requires under Article VI

Additionally, there is another question which you may be willing to answer since you defend Obama’s actions, What specific tax mentioned in our Constitution is being levied as the “shared responsibility payment”?

JWK




Obamacare by consent of the governed, Article 5, our Constitution`s amendment process. Tyranny by a majority vote in Congress or a Supreme Court's majority vote

You really don't understand the difference between "fixing government" and "fixed all that government can"?

No wonder you're so easily manipulated.

 

[itfitzme]

Obama called for Romney to show his tax records because he was running for president and the American people deserved to know about his personal life. Obama claimed it was Romneys duty to share his personal life without showing his.



If you are trying to hold an office for the people, I agree and you should put yourself under the microscope of the People. Not hold double standards and lie and lie and lie and lie.

Here are Obama's tax returns.



President Obama and Vice President Biden: 12 Years of Tax Returns ? Barack Obama



Apparently it is a long standing tradition to release tax returns.



So what point do you think you have made?

Wow really? Thinking helps a lot when you read things. But here:

Obama released his tax returns. So then Romney did.

Clinton released his school records.

Bush released his school records.

Obama pushed his school records under executive privilege so that no one could see them. You really don't see anything wrong with that? Gotta love that kool-aid.

And your point being what? That he didn't release them? Try to be specific.

"Obama not releasing his transcripts means" [blank].

Fill in the blank. Try hard to not get distracted by thoughts of bondage, rape, and illegal drugs.

 

[PMZ]

Here are Obama's tax returns.



President Obama and Vice President Biden: 12 Years of Tax Returns ? Barack Obama



Apparently it is a long standing tradition to release tax returns.



So what point do you think you have made?

Wow really? Thinking helps a lot when you read things. But here:

Obama released his tax returns. So then Romney did.

Clinton released his school records.

Bush released his school records.

Obama pushed his school records under executive privilege so that no one could see them. You really don't see anything wrong with that? Gotta love that kool-aid.

And your point being what? That he didn't release them? Try to be specific.

"Obama not releasing his transcripts means" [blank].

Fill in the blank. Try hard to not get distracted by thoughts of bondage, rape, and illegal drugs.

Brownie is big on "liberty" which is Faux Opinions code for "entitlement".

It's not to be questioned.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Fair is an equal percentage of taxes...

 

[PMZ]

Fair is an equal percentage of taxes...

"Fair" is an abstraction. Nothing can be objectively described as fair

 

[itfitzme]

Fair is an equal percentage of taxes...

Well, actually, there is no word "fair" in economics.

Maximizing economic performance may be better.

 

[ShawnChris13]

Here are Obama's tax returns.







President Obama and Vice President Biden: 12 Years of Tax Returns ? Barack Obama







Apparently it is a long standing tradition to release tax returns.







So what point do you think you have made?

Wow really? Thinking helps a lot when you read things. But here:



Obama released his tax returns. So then Romney did.



Clinton released his school records.



Bush released his school records.



Obama pushed his school records under executive privilege so that no one could see them. You really don't see anything wrong with that? Gotta love that kool-aid.

And your point being what? That he didn't release them? Try to be specific.



"Obama not releasing his transcripts means" [blank].



Fill in the blank. Try hard to not get distracted by thoughts of bondage, rape, and illegal drugs.

You're captain my captain you so blindly follow obviously has something to hide by hiding his past. If you could think past ding fries are done you would reach the same conclusion. Sorry if my question couldn't be answered by you as it was obviously too complicated. Enjoy your coloring books.

 

[ShawnChris13]

So you have read PPACA, or at least the table of contents, and can identify what parts of the healthcare markets are addressed and which are not?

You're really good at dumb questions.



Please pose an actual rebuttal if you disagree with what I said.

So you haven't read it. Nor have you posed an actual rebuttal to anything. All you have done is make unsubstantiated, overgeneralized, and meaningless claims about a subject for which you have absolutely actual knowledge.



I ask the "dumb" questions as complex questions, even simple ones, are beyond you capability.



You may ask me the question and the answer is yes, along with Money flow, Supply, Demand, and Market inefficiencies.

General truths are just that. Truths. I need not delve deeper as your only responses are deflections and changed topics. If my simple facts are too much for you have fun debating anything more complicated than tying your show laces. Enjoy learning how open that Cracker Jack box so you have something to enjoy with your kool-aid.

 

[PMZ]

Wow really? Thinking helps a lot when you read things. But here:



Obama released his tax returns. So then Romney did.



Clinton released his school records.



Bush released his school records.



Obama pushed his school records under executive privilege so that no one could see them. You really don't see anything wrong with that? Gotta love that kool-aid.

And your point being what? That he didn't release them? Try to be specific.



"Obama not releasing his transcripts means" [blank].



Fill in the blank. Try hard to not get distracted by thoughts of bondage, rape, and illegal drugs.

You're captain my captain you so blindly follow obviously has something to hide by hiding his past. If you could think past ding fries are done you would reach the same conclusion. Sorry if my question couldn't be answered by you as it was obviously too complicated. Enjoy your coloring books.

Serious charge, without a shred of evidence, much less proof. Purely what you wish was true.

 

[PMZ]

You're really good at dumb questions.



Please pose an actual rebuttal if you disagree with what I said.

So you haven't read it. Nor have you posed an actual rebuttal to anything. All you have done is make unsubstantiated, overgeneralized, and meaningless claims about a subject for which you have absolutely actual knowledge.



I ask the "dumb" questions as complex questions, even simple ones, are beyond you capability.



You may ask me the question and the answer is yes, along with Money flow, Supply, Demand, and Market inefficiencies.

General truths are just that. Truths. I need not delve deeper as your only responses are deflections and changed topics. If my simple facts are too much for you have fun debating anything more complicated than tying your show laces. Enjoy learning how open that Cracker Jack box so you have something to enjoy with your kool-aid.

Can you point out one simple fact that you've posted?

 

[ShawnChris13]

So you haven't read it. Nor have you posed an actual rebuttal to anything. All you have done is make unsubstantiated, overgeneralized, and meaningless claims about a subject for which you have absolutely actual knowledge.



I ask the "dumb" questions as complex questions, even simple ones, are beyond you capability.



You may ask me the question and the answer is yes, along with Money flow, Supply, Demand, and Market inefficiencies.

General truths are just that. Truths. I need not delve deeper as your only responses are deflections and changed topics. If my simple facts are too much for you have fun debating anything more complicated than tying your show laces. Enjoy learning how open that Cracker Jack box so you have something to enjoy with your kool-aid.

Can you point out one simple fact that you've posted?

Itfitz enjoys coloring books.

PMZ before you jump on his bandwagon of idiocy just take a step back and focus on the myriad of other things worth talking about. He lists rhetorical questions that don't require me to source answers because he wants to know things like 'are people crossing the border' while simultaneously trying to sound smart by deflecting. I agree with you half the time P but this guys an idiot.

 

[Gadawg73]

Clintonomics is paying down the National Debt.

Clinton didn't pay down a dime of the National debt.

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

No he didn't and I explained the facts to you.
You believe what you want to believe based on ideology only.
Clinton did not pay down one cent of the national debt. It rose every year he was in office.

 

[itfitzme]

Wow really? Thinking helps a lot when you read things. But here:



Obama released his tax returns. So then Romney did.



Clinton released his school records.



Bush released his school records.



Obama pushed his school records under executive privilege so that no one could see them. You really don't see anything wrong with that? Gotta love that kool-aid.

And your point being what? That he didn't release them? Try to be specific.



"Obama not releasing his transcripts means" [blank].



Fill in the blank. Try hard to not get distracted by thoughts of bondage, rape, and illegal drugs.

You're captain my captain you so blindly follow obviously has something to hide by hiding his past. If you could think past ding fries are done you would reach the same conclusion. Sorry if my question couldn't be answered by you as it was obviously too complicated. Enjoy your coloring books.

Which is faulty reasoning. A simpler reason is that he just hasn't bothered to.

A search on Obama's college grades yields that he graduated with top honors. So your conclusion is further faulted.

That whole Birther thing lends credance to the concept that this "transcript" issue of yours is simply another meaningless pursuit.

Even so, there is no college requirement for the Presidency of the US.

So, what's your point?

 

[ShawnChris13]

And your point being what? That he didn't release them? Try to be specific.







"Obama not releasing his transcripts means" [blank].







Fill in the blank. Try hard to not get distracted by thoughts of bondage, rape, and illegal drugs.

You're captain my captain you so blindly follow obviously has something to hide by hiding his past. If you could think past ding fries are done you would reach the same conclusion. Sorry if my question couldn't be answered by you as it was obviously too complicated. Enjoy your coloring books.

Which is faulty reasoning. A simpler reason is that he just hasn't bothered to.



A search on Obama's college grades yields that he graduated with top honors. So your conclusion is further faulted.



That whole Birther thing lends credance to the concept that this "transcript" issue of yours is simply another meaningless pursuit.



Even so, there is no college requirement for the Presidency of the US.



So, what's your point?

I don't care about him graduating with honors so let me further spell out for you what your crayons cannot show you. He's hiding his college records. Which means he has something to hide. I give no credence to birthers or the forgers or the other hooplah.


I only raise the question of what is he hiding. I'm sorry that I didn't just say that, as it appears the concept of someone hiding something for a reason fails to reach past the ROY G BIV mindset you place on everything.

 

[itfitzme]

Wow really? Thinking helps a lot when you read things. But here:

Obama released his tax returns. So then Romney did.

Clinton released his school records.

Bush released his school records.

Obama pushed his school records under executive privilege so that no one could see them. You really don't see anything wrong with that? Gotta love that kool-aid.

And your point being what? That he didn't release them? Try to be specific.

"Obama not releasing his transcripts means" [blank].

Fill in the blank. Try hard to not get distracted by thoughts of bondage, rape, and illegal drugs.

You're captain my captain you so blindly follow obviously has something to hide by hiding his past. If you could think past ding fries are done you would reach the same conclusion. Sorry if my question couldn't be answered by you as it was obviously too complicated. Enjoy your coloring books.

Clinton didn't pay down a dime of the National debt.

He did. And if Bush had maintained his policies he would have paid off our entire debt.

No he didn't and I explained the facts to you.
You believe what you want to believe based on ideology only.
Clinton did not pay down one cent of the national debt. It rose every year he was in office.

You need to learn what inflation is, nominal vs real dollars. In fact, between Bush I and Clinton, the real dollar government debt did stop climbing, even reversing when examined on a per capita basis.

In fact, some monetaryist suggest that the recession that followed was caused by this.

 

[itfitzme]

You're captain my captain you so blindly follow obviously has something to hide by hiding his past. If you could think past ding fries are done you would reach the same conclusion. Sorry if my question couldn't be answered by you as it was obviously too complicated. Enjoy your coloring books.

Which is faulty reasoning. A simpler reason is that he just hasn't bothered to.

A search on Obama's college grades yields that he graduated with top honors. So your conclusion is further faulted.

That whole Birther thing lends credance to the concept that this "transcript" issue of yours is simply another meaningless pursuit.

Even so, there is no college requirement for the Presidency of the US.

So, what's your point?

I don't care about him graduating with honors so let me further spell out for you what your crayons cannot show you. He's hiding his college records. Which means he has something to hide. I give no credence to birthers or the forgers or the other hooplah.

I only raise the question of what is he hiding. I'm sorry that I didn't just say that, as it appears the concept of someone hiding something for a reason fails to reach past the ROY G BIV mindset you place on everything.

No it doesn't. If you are so convinced that it does, then prove that it does. Surely you can site some accepted principle in psychology. I can site one that suggests you have a habit of hiding things.

I simply have a realistic mindset.