Politico "caucus" to Trump: enough already, get away from the immigration stuff

[Statistikhengst]

GOP insiders to Trump: Enough already

For the unitiated, the Politico Caucus is a series that does interviews with political operatives on the ground right now in the first four primary states, with heavy emphasis on Iowa and New Hampshire. The interviewees are all listed in the article, but the exact quotes are anonymous.

Donald Trump may have the whole Republican field talking about immigration, but early-state insiders wish he would just stop.

Seven in 10 Republicans said they’ve heard more than enough about Trump’s plan, which includes a controversial call to end birthright citizenship, according to this week’s POLITICO Caucus, our weekly bipartisan survey of the top operatives, activists and strategists in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Trump’s plan calls for an end to policy that guarantees citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal immigrants. That’s one of several controversial provisions under Trump’s plan, which is particularly galling to New Hampshire GOP insiders — 85 percent of whom said the real estate mogul and current GOP front-runner’s immigration plan was harmful to the party.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa Republicans said the same.

“He’s solidly put an anchor around the neck of our party, and we’ll sink because of it,” an Iowa Republican said of Trump.

“Enough already,” vented another Iowa Republican, who like all participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely. “This kind of garbage only appeals to the hard core … while alienating the soft middle that we must win in order to take the presidency.”

A Granite State Republican said it was “harmful to the party, the brand and the future of our country. What’s disappointing is the speed in which other candidates follow his lead. He’s forced that to be standard operation.”

-and-

“Wasn’t the whole “GOP rebrand” effort of the 2012 loss supposed to address this … in the opposite direction?” said a New Hampshire Democrat who, like all participants, answered via an online survey.

Ninety-seven percent of Democratic respondents called the plan harmful for the GOP.

“Quite a number of these candidates appear very willing to toss out any findings of the analysis of the last presidential election and put the general election at risk for their party,” another Granite State Democrat said.

Plenty of insiders on both sides of the aisle said that if the debate unfolding this week continues, Republicans will have a serious problem come general election time.

“This move is not helpful in broadening the November 2016 pool of voters,” warned a New Hampshire Republican.

“A great way to throw the general and become a permanent minority party,” agreed an Iowa Republican.

Who are party operatives? They are often elected officials who are already working in their respective states for one or more campaign. They are people who can best feel the pulse of their electorate. They are the people who help to ignite or destroy campaigns. They are the people who help tirelessely with GOTV efforts in both the primaries and in the General. No campaign can operate to any degree of success without have a good relationship to the operatives on the ground, and not just for the duration of the primaries.

If you read the quotes that I bolded in red, those Republican operatives are saying exactly what I have been saying for a long time now: that the stuff that is "red meat" for the extreme RW of the GOP ends up becoming a poison pill for the GOP in the Fall election. We saw this happen with McCain in 2008 and with Romney in 2012 and the added dynamic of an exponentially growing Latino vote and the power of the Latino community as a whole can only make this more difficult for the GOP.

The Trump team keeps coming back and saying that Trump is winning among Latinos. Well, no. He is doing well among the very few Latinos who are dedicated Republicans and have been polled, but the vast majority of Latinos are neither Republicans nor are they Conservatives and in national approval polling, Trump is at about 13% approval and 81% DISAPPROVAL among Latinos as a whole. That's a deficit of 68 points. That's enormous.

And I bet that the next wave of Latino polling is going to bear even worse news for the GOP than the last set of polling did, now that Trump has released his immigration reform plan that is totally nativist in character and would mean building a huge wall and also rounding up 11-12 million illegal aliens AND THEIR CHILDREN and deporting them. Extreme RW nativists might like to hear this stuff, but be guaranteed that Latinos, and I mean Latinos who are US citizens and who vote, are not.

So, what do you think of what the operatives are saying?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

GOP insiders to Trump: Enough already

For the unitiated, the Politico Caucus is a series that does interviews with political operatives on the ground right now in the first four primary states, with heavy emphasis on Iowa and New Hampshire. The interviewees are all listed in the article, but the exact quotes are anonymous.

Donald Trump may have the whole Republican field talking about immigration, but early-state insiders wish he would just stop.

Seven in 10 Republicans said they’ve heard more than enough about Trump’s plan, which includes a controversial call to end birthright citizenship, according to this week’s POLITICO Caucus, our weekly bipartisan survey of the top operatives, activists and strategists in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Trump’s plan calls for an end to policy that guarantees citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal immigrants. That’s one of several controversial provisions under Trump’s plan, which is particularly galling to New Hampshire GOP insiders — 85 percent of whom said the real estate mogul and current GOP front-runner’s immigration plan was harmful to the party.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa Republicans said the same.

“He’s solidly put an anchor around the neck of our party, and we’ll sink because of it,” an Iowa Republican said of Trump.

“Enough already,” vented another Iowa Republican, who like all participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely. “This kind of garbage only appeals to the hard core … while alienating the soft middle that we must win in order to take the presidency.”

A Granite State Republican said it was “harmful to the party, the brand and the future of our country. What’s disappointing is the speed in which other candidates follow his lead. He’s forced that to be standard operation.”

-and-

“Wasn’t the whole “GOP rebrand” effort of the 2012 loss supposed to address this … in the opposite direction?” said a New Hampshire Democrat who, like all participants, answered via an online survey.

Ninety-seven percent of Democratic respondents called the plan harmful for the GOP.

“Quite a number of these candidates appear very willing to toss out any findings of the analysis of the last presidential election and put the general election at risk for their party,” another Granite State Democrat said.

Plenty of insiders on both sides of the aisle said that if the debate unfolding this week continues, Republicans will have a serious problem come general election time.

“This move is not helpful in broadening the November 2016 pool of voters,” warned a New Hampshire Republican.

“A great way to throw the general and become a permanent minority party,” agreed an Iowa Republican.

Who are party operatives? They are often elected officials who are already working in their respective states for one or more campaign. They are people who can best feel the pulse of their electorate. They are the people who help to ignite or destroy campaigns. They are the people who help tirelessely with GOTV efforts in both the primaries and in the General. No campaign can operate to any degree of success without have a good relationship to the operatives on the ground, and not just for the duration of the primaries.

If you read the quotes that I bolded in red, those Republican operatives are saying exactly what I have been saying for a long time now: that the stuff that is "red meat" for the extreme RW of the GOP ends up becoming a poison pill for the GOP in the Fall election. We saw this happen with McCain in 2008 and with Romney in 2012 and the added dynamic of an exponentially growing Latino vote and the power of the Latino community as a whole can only make this more difficult for the GOP.

The Trump team keeps coming back and saying that Trump is winning among Latinos. Well, no. He is doing well among the very few Latinos who are dedicated Republicans and have been polled, but the vast majority of Latinos are neither Republicans nor are they Conservatives and in national approval polling, Trump is at about 13% approval and 81% DISAPPROVAL among Latinos as a whole. That's a deficit of 68 points. That's enormous.

And I bet that the next wave of Latino polling is going to bear even worse news for the GOP than the last set of polling did, now that Trump has released his immigration reform plan that is totally nativist in character and would mean building a huge wall and also rounding up 11-12 million illegal aliens AND THEIR CHILDREN and deporting them. Extreme RW nativists might like to hear this stuff, but be guaranteed that Latinos, and I mean Latinos who are US citizens and who vote, are not.

So, what do you think of what the operatives are saying?

Oh wow Statis.... Thank. You for helping the Republican Party pick our nominee. I'm sure you want the GOP winning the election. Bullshit! The best thing the GOP can do is do the opposite of what democrat progressives suggest.

 

[Statistikhengst]

GOP insiders to Trump: Enough already

For the unitiated, the Politico Caucus is a series that does interviews with political operatives on the ground right now in the first four primary states, with heavy emphasis on Iowa and New Hampshire. The interviewees are all listed in the article, but the exact quotes are anonymous.

Donald Trump may have the whole Republican field talking about immigration, but early-state insiders wish he would just stop.

Seven in 10 Republicans said they’ve heard more than enough about Trump’s plan, which includes a controversial call to end birthright citizenship, according to this week’s POLITICO Caucus, our weekly bipartisan survey of the top operatives, activists and strategists in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Trump’s plan calls for an end to policy that guarantees citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal immigrants. That’s one of several controversial provisions under Trump’s plan, which is particularly galling to New Hampshire GOP insiders — 85 percent of whom said the real estate mogul and current GOP front-runner’s immigration plan was harmful to the party.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa Republicans said the same.

“He’s solidly put an anchor around the neck of our party, and we’ll sink because of it,” an Iowa Republican said of Trump.

“Enough already,” vented another Iowa Republican, who like all participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely. “This kind of garbage only appeals to the hard core … while alienating the soft middle that we must win in order to take the presidency.”

A Granite State Republican said it was “harmful to the party, the brand and the future of our country. What’s disappointing is the speed in which other candidates follow his lead. He’s forced that to be standard operation.”

-and-

“Wasn’t the whole “GOP rebrand” effort of the 2012 loss supposed to address this … in the opposite direction?” said a New Hampshire Democrat who, like all participants, answered via an online survey.

Ninety-seven percent of Democratic respondents called the plan harmful for the GOP.

“Quite a number of these candidates appear very willing to toss out any findings of the analysis of the last presidential election and put the general election at risk for their party,” another Granite State Democrat said.

Plenty of insiders on both sides of the aisle said that if the debate unfolding this week continues, Republicans will have a serious problem come general election time.

“This move is not helpful in broadening the November 2016 pool of voters,” warned a New Hampshire Republican.

“A great way to throw the general and become a permanent minority party,” agreed an Iowa Republican.

Who are party operatives? They are often elected officials who are already working in their respective states for one or more campaign. They are people who can best feel the pulse of their electorate. They are the people who help to ignite or destroy campaigns. They are the people who help tirelessely with GOTV efforts in both the primaries and in the General. No campaign can operate to any degree of success without have a good relationship to the operatives on the ground, and not just for the duration of the primaries.

If you read the quotes that I bolded in red, those Republican operatives are saying exactly what I have been saying for a long time now: that the stuff that is "red meat" for the extreme RW of the GOP ends up becoming a poison pill for the GOP in the Fall election. We saw this happen with McCain in 2008 and with Romney in 2012 and the added dynamic of an exponentially growing Latino vote and the power of the Latino community as a whole can only make this more difficult for the GOP.

The Trump team keeps coming back and saying that Trump is winning among Latinos. Well, no. He is doing well among the very few Latinos who are dedicated Republicans and have been polled, but the vast majority of Latinos are neither Republicans nor are they Conservatives and in national approval polling, Trump is at about 13% approval and 81% DISAPPROVAL among Latinos as a whole. That's a deficit of 68 points. That's enormous.

And I bet that the next wave of Latino polling is going to bear even worse news for the GOP than the last set of polling did, now that Trump has released his immigration reform plan that is totally nativist in character and would mean building a huge wall and also rounding up 11-12 million illegal aliens AND THEIR CHILDREN and deporting them. Extreme RW nativists might like to hear this stuff, but be guaranteed that Latinos, and I mean Latinos who are US citizens and who vote, are not.

So, what do you think of what the operatives are saying?

Oh wow Statis.... Thank. You for helping the Republican Party pick our nominee. I'm sure you want the GOP winning the election. Bullshit! The best thing the GOP can do is do the opposite of what democrat progressives suggest.

You are missing the point, by a long shot.

I am not even going to be voting in a Republican Primary.

If you were smart enough to read, you would realize that the comments being made are from Republican Party operatives.

Oh, forget about it, you are obviously too stupid to know how to actually read an OP. Go play with your tinker toys or something.

And when the GOP gets its third pasting in a row in 2016, just remember: I told you so.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The mainstream GOP insiders hate that Trump is talking about immigration, but that has become his shtick. He has to stay with it, or he will lose a major source of his political support.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Republican Establishment needs to be rooted out and send over to the Dems where they belong

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nope, you need to go start your own party, Frank. You can't have ours.

 

[BULLDOG]

The Republican Establishment needs to be rooted out and send over to the Dems where they belong

Don't worry. There is very little of the sane establishment left in the GOP. Crazy teabaggers ate them.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Republican Establishment needs to be rooted out and send over to the Dems where they belong

Don't worry. There is very little of the sane establishment left in the GOP. Crazy teabaggers ate them.

That is a silly lefty comment.

 

[BULLDOG]

The Republican Establishment needs to be rooted out and send over to the Dems where they belong

Don't worry. There is very little of the sane establishment left in the GOP. Crazy teabaggers ate them.

That is a silly lefty comment.

Still true.

 

[Statistikhengst]

The Republican Establishment needs to be rooted out and send over to the Dems where they belong

Don't worry. There is very little of the sane establishment left in the GOP. Crazy teabaggers ate them.

That is a silly lefty comment.

Still true.

Partially, perhaps, but not completely. I am sure there are some very sane people still left in the GOP. Only, they are a small minority.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nah, they are a majority, or we would have a TP Speaker of the House.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Nah, they are a majority, or we would have a TP Speaker of the House.

Uhm, no. Moderate, sane Republicans are obviously a minority in the GOP.

 

[whitehall]

If reporters keep throwing questions about immigration than ....duh...Trump will keep answering them. It's interesting to note that democrat blather is all about drivers licenses for illegal criminals and benefits and pathways to citizenship etc but none of the ass holes has ever recommended closing the border until Trump reminded Americans that it's the first thing you need to do.

 

[Katzndogz]

Democrats think republicans should let latinos think for them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Republican Establishment that gave us McCain, Boenher and McConnell have a problem with an American First guy like Trump

Wow

Who else never saw that coming?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nah, they are a majority, or we would have a TP Speaker of the House.

Coming next Jake

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If Cheats and Pedophiles could swing an election, Dems would have fundraisers for Josh and Jared

 

[BluesLegend]

Riiiiight I'm sure Trump will now stop talking about the key issue that catapulted him to the top of the polls. /eyeroll

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nah, they are a majority, or we would have a TP Speaker of the House.

Coming next Jake

Man, share your drugs, they are giving you some strange stuff.

Not a chance. Their share of the GOP caucus keeps shrinking. Most will be gone after next year's election.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

GOP insiders to Trump: Enough already

For the unitiated, the Politico Caucus is a series that does interviews with political operatives on the ground right now in the first four primary states, with heavy emphasis on Iowa and New Hampshire. The interviewees are all listed in the article, but the exact quotes are anonymous.

Donald Trump may have the whole Republican field talking about immigration, but early-state insiders wish he would just stop.

Seven in 10 Republicans said they’ve heard more than enough about Trump’s plan, which includes a controversial call to end birthright citizenship, according to this week’s POLITICO Caucus, our weekly bipartisan survey of the top operatives, activists and strategists in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Trump’s plan calls for an end to policy that guarantees citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal immigrants. That’s one of several controversial provisions under Trump’s plan, which is particularly galling to New Hampshire GOP insiders — 85 percent of whom said the real estate mogul and current GOP front-runner’s immigration plan was harmful to the party.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa Republicans said the same.

“He’s solidly put an anchor around the neck of our party, and we’ll sink because of it,” an Iowa Republican said of Trump.

“Enough already,” vented another Iowa Republican, who like all participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely. “This kind of garbage only appeals to the hard core … while alienating the soft middle that we must win in order to take the presidency.”

A Granite State Republican said it was “harmful to the party, the brand and the future of our country. What’s disappointing is the speed in which other candidates follow his lead. He’s forced that to be standard operation.”

-and-

“Wasn’t the whole “GOP rebrand” effort of the 2012 loss supposed to address this … in the opposite direction?” said a New Hampshire Democrat who, like all participants, answered via an online survey.

Ninety-seven percent of Democratic respondents called the plan harmful for the GOP.

“Quite a number of these candidates appear very willing to toss out any findings of the analysis of the last presidential election and put the general election at risk for their party,” another Granite State Democrat said.

Plenty of insiders on both sides of the aisle said that if the debate unfolding this week continues, Republicans will have a serious problem come general election time.

“This move is not helpful in broadening the November 2016 pool of voters,” warned a New Hampshire Republican.

“A great way to throw the general and become a permanent minority party,” agreed an Iowa Republican.

Who are party operatives? They are often elected officials who are already working in their respective states for one or more campaign. They are people who can best feel the pulse of their electorate. They are the people who help to ignite or destroy campaigns. They are the people who help tirelessely with GOTV efforts in both the primaries and in the General. No campaign can operate to any degree of success without have a good relationship to the operatives on the ground, and not just for the duration of the primaries.

If you read the quotes that I bolded in red, those Republican operatives are saying exactly what I have been saying for a long time now: that the stuff that is "red meat" for the extreme RW of the GOP ends up becoming a poison pill for the GOP in the Fall election. We saw this happen with McCain in 2008 and with Romney in 2012 and the added dynamic of an exponentially growing Latino vote and the power of the Latino community as a whole can only make this more difficult for the GOP.

The Trump team keeps coming back and saying that Trump is winning among Latinos. Well, no. He is doing well among the very few Latinos who are dedicated Republicans and have been polled, but the vast majority of Latinos are neither Republicans nor are they Conservatives and in national approval polling, Trump is at about 13% approval and 81% DISAPPROVAL among Latinos as a whole. That's a deficit of 68 points. That's enormous.

And I bet that the next wave of Latino polling is going to bear even worse news for the GOP than the last set of polling did, now that Trump has released his immigration reform plan that is totally nativist in character and would mean building a huge wall and also rounding up 11-12 million illegal aliens AND THEIR CHILDREN and deporting them. Extreme RW nativists might like to hear this stuff, but be guaranteed that Latinos, and I mean Latinos who are US citizens and who vote, are not.

So, what do you think of what the operatives are saying?

Oh wow Statis.... Thank. You for helping the Republican Party pick our nominee. I'm sure you want the GOP winning the election. Bullshit! The best thing the GOP can do is do the opposite of what democrat progressives suggest.

You are missing the point, by a long shot.

I am not even going to be voting in a Republican Primary.

If you were smart enough to read, you would realize that the comments being made are from Republican Party operatives.

Oh, forget about it, you are obviously too stupid to know how to actually read an OP. Go play with your tinker toys or something.

And when the GOP gets its third pasting in a row in 2016, just remember: I told you so.

third in a row? what were the first two pastings, or do you as a liberal consider it a pasting if you win and election and are forced to work a job. ( even if they are doing the job poorly )