Political Reality of Slavery and Our 21st Century Political Landscape

[Bush92]

Slavery was on it's way out, that's just a fact but it was over 150 years ago. Waaaaay past time to let it go and get over it

Liberals in media and education will not. DNC Convention in2016 would not let it go.

 

[Bush92]

Slavery was on the cusp of extinction no matter how anyone felt about it. Slavery was never going to withstand the industrial revolution. Just like today. Cheap human labor will not survive automation.

Automated cotton pickers did not become readily available until the 1930s and cotton was still picked by hand up till the 1950s
The south was in no hurry to end slavery and created the Confederacy to preserve it

Cotton picker - Wikipedia

Wrong. Why was the South the Worlds largest cotton exporter by 1850?

 

[Bush92]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

Guess that crushes your feeble argument.
Cotton and the Civil War | Mississippi History Now

 

[Bush92]

“All white people move to the back!”

 

[Timmy]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Are you talking about confederate memorials?

They should come down. Why celebrate murderous traitors ?

 

[Asclepias]

“All white people move to the back!”

Good stuff. Get to the back. When its your cause you can be up front.

 

[rightwinger]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

Our founders did exactly that. The great empires allowed it in the hinterlands but not in the homeland. We were the hinterlands so it got its start in our culture. Civil War had to happen because ratification of the Constitution was an imperative.

Makes absolutely no sense

 

[rightwinger]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

Guess that crushes your feeble argument.
Cotton and the Civil War | Mississippi History Now

Has nothing to do with what I posted

 

[Bush92]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

Our founders did exactly that. The great empires allowed it in the hinterlands but not in the homeland. We were the hinterlands so it got its start in our culture. Civil War had to happen because ratification of the Constitution was an imperative.

Makes absolutely no sense

100% truth. I know how liberals hate the truth. You can try to have a rebuttal from an academic and historical point of view...but you have none.

 

[Bush92]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

Guess that crushes your feeble argument.
Cotton and the Civil War | Mississippi History Now

Has nothing to do with what I posted

Sure. You got wasted.

 

[rightwinger]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

Our founders did exactly that. The great empires allowed it in the hinterlands but not in the homeland. We were the hinterlands so it got its start in our culture. Civil War had to happen because ratification of the Constitution was an imperative.

Makes absolutely no sense

100% truth. I know how liberals hate the truth. You can try to have a rebuttal from an academic and historical point of view...but you have none.

It is word salad

 

[rightwinger]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

Guess that crushes your feeble argument.
Cotton and the Civil War | Mississippi History Now

Has nothing to do with what I posted

Sure. You got wasted.

Quote the parts you think refute what I posted

 

[Cellblock2429]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

/---/ It has nothing to do with slavery. Libs don't give a wit about slavery today in Africa and the Middle East. Their goal is to tear down American culture and history the way the Nazi's tried to eradicate everything Polish right down to the birth and death records. If liberals can destroy our Founding Fathers then they can destroy the Constitution which stops them from seizing total power.

The US isnt in Africa or the Middle East dumbass. Concentrate.

/----/ Then how do you explain this? America boycotts South Africa over Apartheid. Now concentrate...

How do I explain that the US isnt in Africa or the Middle East? How about a 3rd grade world map?

/---/ So slavery is OK outside US borders. Great morality you have there, Spanky.

 

[Asclepias]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

/---/ It has nothing to do with slavery. Libs don't give a wit about slavery today in Africa and the Middle East. Their goal is to tear down American culture and history the way the Nazi's tried to eradicate everything Polish right down to the birth and death records. If liberals can destroy our Founding Fathers then they can destroy the Constitution which stops them from seizing total power.

The US isnt in Africa or the Middle East dumbass. Concentrate.

/----/ Then how do you explain this? America boycotts South Africa over Apartheid. Now concentrate...

How do I explain that the US isnt in Africa or the Middle East? How about a 3rd grade world map?

/---/ So slavery is OK outside US borders. Great morality you have there, Spanky.

Slavery is legal inside the US borders as well dummy. However why did you think the US was in Africa?

 

[longknife]

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we look back into the 18th and 19th centuries ...the world of the founders of our nation...we see and international battle ground between Spain, France, and Great Britain. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison were 5th generation slave owners. From a class of people that held all the economic and political power in the South. To a man they disagreed with slavery. But how were they going to end it? Screaming in the streets like today’s liberal historians think they should have? These men would have been hanged by their own class of people. Instead they put in place a system based on constitutional law that would allow for a gradual elimination of slavery. We can’t judge them based on OUR TIME...but we must judge them on their time. They moved as fast as speed could practically allow.
Thomas Jefferson's Attitudes Toward Slavery | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Now leftist (we have no Democratic Party anymore) want to destroy them, tear down plaques, statues, and rewrite history. Very dangerous.

Total nonsense

Slavery was nowhere near extinction. So much so that slave owners preferred treason and war to allowing their slaves a path to freedom.
Cost us 600,000 lives to get rid of slavery while most nations were willing to just let it go

I'm going to post a thread elsewhere that indicates there are between 65 and 70 million people in slavery around the world TODAY.!

 

[longknife]

/----/ Then how do you explain this? America boycotts South Africa over Apartheid. Now concentrate...

How do I explain that the US isnt in Africa or the Middle East? How about a 3rd grade world map?

Why is Africa...as a continent lagging behind the rest of the world...Oh for the last...hmmmm....all of human history?

Who told you that and why do you too think the US is in Africa?

We’ve been in Africa since the 1950’s with military and economic aid.

The US has never been in Africa dummy. The US is on an entirely different continent.

Tell that to the US Military personnel assigned to Africa Command on that continent.

 

[longknife]

There are also tens of thousands of sex slaves right here in the USA.

 

[Pilot1]

Cold War. Mandela and the ANC were communist tools of the Soviet Union.

Yep, and Nelson and Winnie Mandela supported, and sanctioned murder of rival factions, and rival tribes. They were not the benign SJW's the left made them out to be. They were also DEVOUT COMMUNSISTS that used it with the goal of becoming wealthy, and elite.

 

[Asclepias]

How do I explain that the US isnt in Africa or the Middle East? How about a 3rd grade world map?

Why is Africa...as a continent lagging behind the rest of the world...Oh for the last...hmmmm....all of human history?

Who told you that and why do you too think the US is in Africa?

We’ve been in Africa since the 1950’s with military and economic aid.

The US has never been in Africa dummy. The US is on an entirely different continent.

Tell that to the US Military personnel assigned to Africa Command on that continent.

Why would I do something stupid like that? I was in the military and yes some of them are dumb as rocks. However, I never met anyone that thought the US was on the continent of Africa.

 

[rightwinger]

There are also tens of thousands of sex slaves right here in the USA.

The difference is that the Confederacy was created to ensure slavery