Political question for Leftists. What do you not like about the Constitution?

[progressive hunter]

OK I will give you that,, take them from his authority,, now what about the 2nd A and shall not be infringed?? are all guns now legal for civilians??

Well that's where Scalia is in conflict with the literal of the Constiution.

“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States .

The president is commander in chief of the state militia. And just who would that be? Obviously militia can't be all able bodied men within the state as Scalia defined them.

As the president is commander in chief of the "well regulated militia" of the several states.

so when do I get my military grade guns??

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

No Founder agrees with the modern left. They WARNED us about you

Hate to tell you

They are all dead

Soon you will be too. What's your point. You claimed they agree with you. THAT IS A LIE. They fought a revolution against Statists

They fought a revolution against the Monarchy
A Monarchy supported by Conservatives

 

[meaner gene]

so when do I get my military grade guns??

Based on when the constitution was written, you can have a flintlock musket or a blunderbuss.

Without interpretation, you have no right to something that did not exist when they wrote it.

 

[meaner gene]

The air and space force did not exist when they wrote the Constitution, so the president can't be commander in chief of them, unless the constitution is subject to interpretation.

 

[progressive hunter]

so when do I get my military grade guns??

Based on when the constitution was written, you can have a flintlock musket or a blunderbuss.

Without interpretation, you have no right to something that did not exist when they wrote it.

where does the 2nd say that??

it says arms,, military grade weapons are arms,, no interpretation needed,,

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

No Founder agrees with the modern left. They WARNED us about you

Hate to tell you

They are all dead

Soon you will be too. What's your point. You claimed they agree with you. THAT IS A LIE. They fought a revolution against Statists

They fought a revolution against the Monarchy
A Monarchy supported by

The supporters of the State over the individual were conservatives IN THAT DAY.

The left has bastardized the language as they always do.

YOU are a supporter of a powerful government.

We support MINIMAL GOVERNMENT

The Founders opposed Statism. YOU support Statism

 

[meaner gene]

If you reject constitutional interpretation, a lot of things you take for granted would dissapear.
Like freedom of speech, when that speech is on the internet. Or of the press, when it's on the internet.

 

[progressive hunter]

The air and space force did not exist when they wrote the Constitution, so the president can't be commander in chief of them, unless the constitution is subject to interpretation.

alright shut them down and give us back our military arms,,

 

[progressive hunter]

If you reject constitutional interpretation, a lot of things you take for granted would dissapear.
Like freedom of speech, when that speech is on the internet. Or of the press, when it's on the internet.

speech is anywhere you want to say it,,

your spins are getting laughable,,

 

[meaner gene]

Without interpretation, you have no right to something that did not exist when they wrote it.

where does the 2nd say that??

it says arms,, military grade weapons are arms,, no interpretation needed,,

As I said, at the time it was written, unless you agree the constitution is subject to interpretation.

Pick one or the other.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

No Founder agrees with the modern left. They WARNED us about you

Hate to tell you

They are all dead

Soon you will be too. What's your point. You claimed they agree with you. THAT IS A LIE. They fought a revolution against Statists

They fought a revolution against the Monarchy
A Monarchy supported by Conservatives

A monarchy what was authoritarian – and conservatives today retain that propensity for authoritarianism and intolerance; to compel conformity and punish dissent; to increase the power and authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty.

 

[progressive hunter]

Without interpretation, you have no right to something that did not exist when they wrote it.

where does the 2nd say that??

it says arms,, military grade weapons are arms,, no interpretation needed,,

As I said, at the time it was written, unless you agree the constitution is subject to interpretation.

Pick one or the other.

it says "arms" that includes many things including military grade guns,,

 

[meaner gene]

alright shut them down and give us back our military arms,,

You can have all the military arms that existed at the time it was written.

Happy?

You can own any flintlock.

 

[progressive hunter]

alright shut them down and give us back our military arms,,

You can have all the military arms that existed at the time it was written.

Happy?

You can own any flintlock.

where does the 2nd limit it to that?? and for your info full auto existed then,,

 

[meaner gene]

speech is anywhere you want to say it,,

your spins are getting laughable,,

That's an interpretation. The definition is:

a formal address or discourse delivered to an audience.
the communication or expression of thoughts in spoken words.

What you type here, isn't speech, unless the constitution can be interpreted to include it.

 

[progressive hunter]

speech is anywhere you want to say it,,

your spins are getting laughable,,

That's an interpretation. The definition is:

a formal address or discourse delivered to an audience.
the communication or expression of thoughts in spoken words.

What you type here, isn't speech, unless the constitution can be interpreted to include it.

thats funny because reality says that its me saying it and no one else,,

its because youre trying to interpret it thats causing the confusion,,

 

[meaner gene]

it says "arms" that includes many things including military grade guns,,

And those military grade guns were flintlocks. I agree 100% to that.

If you want more, you have to allow the constitution to be interpreted to include items that did not exist at the time of its creation.

So pick a position, interpreted or absolute literal?

 

[meaner gene]

where does the 2nd limit it to that?? and for your info full auto existed then,,

Not by BATF definition of "full auto" in fact they get around that by not even having a trigger.

 

[progressive hunter]

it says "arms" that includes many things including military grade guns,,

And those military grade guns were flintlocks. I agree 100% to that.

If you want more, you have to allow the constitution to be interpreted to include items that did not exist at the time of its creation.

So pick a position, interpreted or absolute literal?

thats funny,, I didnt know our military still used flintlocks,,,

of course its literal and since you complain about the airforce and space force,, lets abolish them and combine them with the army and navy,,

 

[progressive hunter]

where does the 2nd limit it to that?? and for your info full auto existed then,,

Not by BATF definition of "full auto" in fact they get around that by not even having a trigger.

I dont comply with unlawful agencies,,