Political question for Leftists. What do you not like about the Constitution?

[ColonelAngus]

It seems most on the left want the Constitution radically changed.

What changes do you want to make to it that will result in the USA being a better place to live?

 

[NightFox]

It seems most on the left want the Constitution radically changed.

What changes do you want to make to it that will result in the USA being a better place to live?

Question, how can you assert that "most" of the left want the Constitution radically changed, while not knowing what changes (if any) "most" of the left want to make to it? You're presuming an answer to your own question, which is a common tactic that people use when they're intentionally trying to be deceptive as well as provocative.

Why not just ask left wingers, do you want to see changes to the Constitution and if so , what changes and how do you think they would benefit the citizenry? Personally I don't think that most left wingers I've run across want to see changes to the Constitution, they seem more interested in activist INTERPRETATIONS (i.e. judicial activism) of the existing Constitution.

Just a thought.

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

 

[Wyatt earp]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

We all know you love your slaves and deny the women the right to vote

 

[John T. Ford]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

 

[John T. Ford]

ALL Leftist and Useful Idiots hate the US Constitution.

Some can tell you why and some cannot.

 

[Flash]

I am definitely not one but can I answer for the Leftest?

1. They do not like freedom of speech if it is critical of their agenda to make the US a Socialist shithole.

2. They feel that religion is a threat to their Government God and therefore do not like freedom of religion.

3. They hate the right to keep and bear arms because they don't want anybody that disagrees with their Socialist agenda to have the ability to resist them.

4. They hate the Amendment prohibiting slavery because they want everybody to be a slave of the state

 

[NightFox]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Yeah, Liberals DID write the Constitution, CLASSICAL LIBERALS which have absolutely no ideological relationship with the PROGRESSIVES of today, those liberals had far more in common with what you would call modern CONSERVATIVES (or more accurately modern LIBERTARIANS).

Modern Progressives have more in common with the Colonial Era Monarchists.

Stick that in your partisan pipe and smoke it.

 

[occupied]

Most leftists don't have problem with the constitution, it's the assholes charged with implementing it's protections. Meanwhile there are lots of people on the right who talk about having a new constitutional convention AKA radically changing the constitution. They are never quite clear on what they want though.

 

[Oddball]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

The "liberals" who wrote the Constitution bear no relation whatsoever to today's crackpot prog neo-Marxists, and that mental case knows it.

 

[Gdjjr]

I want to see a "left winger" or a right winger who actually believes in the constitution, as written- and abide by it. I don't recall, in my time, nary an example of any even knowing what it is, never mind acting like it- left wingers and right wingers want it "interpreted" to suit their wants, needs and desires- that can be (and is by me) referred to as the edict of man, not the rule of law as we're supposed to operate under-

Let's look at one tiny example:

Why Is Paper Money Constitutional?​

I'm pretty sure, "right wingers" have had ample opportunity to address that- yet, they worship it just as "left wingers" do and use it to serve their agenda, (rhetoric not withstanding), to fund their pet projects-

 

[NightFox]

Most leftists don't have problem with the constitution, it's the assholes charged with implementing it's protections. Meanwhile there are lots of people on the right who talk about having a new constitutional convention AKA radically changing the constitution. They are never quite clear on what they want though.

Let me help you out there, the changes I would like to see involve strengthening the limitations on the power of the Federal Government with the end goal of enhancing the liberty of the individual, the founders wanted to chain the central authority by decentralizing it and pushing it down to the lowest level possible. Unfortunately over the centuries unscrupulous, self serving politicians, their crony capitalist patrons and the apathy of the citizenry have allowed it to become all to CENTRALIZED which has led directly to the rampant inequality of wealth & power that we see today, the so called "elites" have used the Federal Government as their own personal goon squad and piggy bank to exploit the masses.

Does that require "radical" changes, yes, however IMHO those changes can be done via the Amendment process as opposed to the change process that many on the left seem to favor which is LEGISLATING FROM THE BENCH aka known as RULE BY UNELECTED BLACK ROBED DICTATORS.

I assume you're not oblivious to all the egregious injustices perpetrated on the liberty of innocent citizens by the Federal Government, so I suspect you'll get the gist of what I (and many conservatives and libertarians) are looking for.

 

[Gdjjr]

Does that require "radical" changes, yes, however IMHO those changes can be done via the Amendment process as opposed

I agree with your assessment- however, be careful what you wish for in the amendment process - that does require congress (and local politicians) be involved, and as we can see from History, they never do as promised- N.E.V.E.R.

 

[Moonglow]

I like the Constitution, what I don't like is how the political parties are always trying pervert and avert the Constitution. The states are the worst at violating basic civil rights..

 

[Seawytch]

The “All MEN are created equal” part. That could use some updating.

 

[NightFox]

Does that require "radical" changes, yes, however IMHO those changes can be done via the Amendment process as opposed

I agree with your assessment- however, be careful what you wish for in the amendment process - that does require congress (and local politicians) be involved, and as we can see from History, they never do as promised- N.E.V.E.R.

You make a good point and one that I completely agree with, however the Amendment process is probably SAFER given that it requires the consent of 3/4 of the States and offers incremental changes as opposed to a Constitutional Convention that would risk all sorts of immediate (rather than incremental) changes with uncertain outcomes

Besides the Amendment process is what we currently have and to a large degree has proven over time to be effective (not in all cases but in many) and less risky.

 

[Jets]

Not a leftist, but would prefer the Senate go back to being appointed by the state legislatures.

 

[NightFox]

Not a leftist, but would prefer the Senate go back to being appointed by the state legislatures.

Repeal the 17th good idea, while we're at it we can get rid of the 16th as well.

 

[rightwinger]

I’m cool with it as written

After all, Liberals did write the Constituition

Two LIES in two sentences.

Nice.

The "liberals" who wrote the Constitution bear no relation whatsoever to today's crackpot prog neo-Marxists, and that mental case knows it.

They bear no relation to today’s Conservatives that pander to Corporate Greed at the expense of human rights.

 

[norwegen]

Leftwingerism has already compromised the Constitution. The document was drafted to form, or constitute, a new government. It had no provision for the constitution of the citizenry; no designs on defining the people.

That is, until the Progressive Era with Prohibition, a permanent income tax on the people, and a radical expansion of popular will with the 17th Amendment and the idea of the peoples' "right" to vote.

Now they want to eliminate the Electoral College altogether, and have been actively censuring the 1st and 2nd Amendments. Who knows how they'll be attacking the Constitution in ten or twenty years, but they've never liked it.