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Need more British cops like SGT Nick Angel ...

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How Are Police Officers Trained In the US
In developing its professional staff, the United States Capitol Police (USCP) empowers individuals to reach their full potential, ensuring professional growth and career opportunities within the Department. –The United States Capitol Police
The United States boasts having one of the most trained and professional police forces in the world. Becoming a police officer involves years of rigorous training. Even then, there is no assurance that you would fully qualify to become a full pledged police officer.

Becoming a police officer is more of a passion than a means of employment for many people. They find satisfaction knowing that they are contributing to keeping their country safe and peaceful. Police officers are often chosen not for what they have done, but rather what they could do to serve the country.

This is why most states do not require applicants to have any bachelor degrees. A high school degree is already sufficient when applying for officership. Nevertheless, the training they undergo assures that they are well equipped when facing real life scenarios.

Requirements To Become A Police Officer:~

...you can train 24/7 and be very smart--mistakes will happen no matter what...it's like combat [ not like making a cheese sandwich ] = you can train all you want but it is not like the REAL thing
...pilots are very smart and get paid mucho $$$$$..they train on million $ simulators...have THOUSANDS of hours of flight time --but they still hundreds of people

...when you have 2 or more humans in conflict, this just exponentiates the problem .....it's dynamic.....humans can't even get simple shit correct like a fast food order---imagine what it is like dealing with IRRATIONAL, dumbass, VIOLENT jackass criminals

I should imagine it’s a different matter when you are caught up in an emotionally charged dangerous situation.

Very easy for we armchair warriors to comment.

A fake $20 should never become an emotionally charged situation. Selling some loose cigarettes on the corner should never become an emotionally charged situation. Driving with a wide set nose should never become an emotionally charged situation. Messing around out in the garage should never become an emotionally charged situation. Walking home from the store should never become an emotionally charged situation. Having dated a drug dealer in the past and dumping him should never become and emotionally charged situation.
 

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Need more British cops like SGT Nick Angel ...

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Hmm.. That's a comedy but perhaps a more accurate portrayal of policing in the US minus the really dark sickening bits.

Going back to the Floyd Trial. It was said at the start that Chauvin was just following police procedure. This was later rejected by his boss and others in their evidence.
Seems very strange that neither Chauvin nor his colleagues knew the correct procedure.
Or did they and decided to invent their own instead. Bastards!
 

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A fake $20 should never become an emotionally charged situation. Selling some loose cigarettes on the corner should never become an emotionally charged situation.

Tell that to the offenders who get emotionally charged.

I never understand why people who commit minor offenses get so violent when arrested. The judges are just going to let them walk anyway.
 

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How Are Police Officers Trained In the US
In developing its professional staff, the United States Capitol Police (USCP) empowers individuals to reach their full potential, ensuring professional growth and career opportunities within the Department. –The United States Capitol Police
The United States boasts having one of the most trained and professional police forces in the world. Becoming a police officer involves years of rigorous training. Even then, there is no assurance that you would fully qualify to become a full pledged police officer.

Becoming a police officer is more of a passion than a means of employment for many people. They find satisfaction knowing that they are contributing to keeping their country safe and peaceful. Police officers are often chosen not for what they have done, but rather what they could do to serve the country.

This is why most states do not require applicants to have any bachelor degrees. A high school degree is already sufficient when applying for officership. Nevertheless, the training they undergo assures that they are well equipped when facing real life scenarios.

Requirements To Become A Police Officer:~

Hiya babycakes!
I read that police basic training in the US varies widely in Sth Carolina it's around 16 months & in California 24. London 3 years and we don't need firearm training.

I think it comes down to both the quality of both the applicants and the training whether you end up with a police service (they are called a service and not a force now in the UK)
that is fit for purpose.

Sorry to hear you have been in your words "rear-ended" many times in the US. Can you give more details - have you got pics?

Typical dirty minded Brit.
I'm sure you'd agree we are not all "dirty-minded".
I hold up Boris Johnson as our champion of moral values.

I think you have been living in the US a little too long and are in danger of becoming like that megamouth Markle all acid-tonged and bitter. You don't want to become like her my popsicle.
 

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A fake $20 should never become an emotionally charged situation. Selling some loose cigarettes on the corner should never become an emotionally charged situation.

Tell that to the offenders who get emotionally charged.

I never understand why people who commit minor offenses get so violent when arrested. The judges are just going to let them walk anyway.

Our laws do that. Our unfair system does that. On one side of town the police arrest a guy for selling people a cigarette. On the other side we have a ton of financial crimes that get ignored.
 

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On the other side we have a ton of financial crimes that get ignored.

There are many different kinds of policing.

A street cop doesn't have the training or resources to investigate insider trading or corporate embezzlement. Those crimes aren't ignored, people are prosecuted all the time. But, those complex cases involve several agencies and entirely different kinds of specialists and sometimes take years to prosecute. When those people are arrested, they typically don't jack up with police.

On the other hand, trained accounting fraud and e-crime specialists aren't driving around the streets handing out tickets for speeding.

Horses for courses.
 

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A fake $20 should never become an emotionally charged situation. Selling some loose cigarettes on the corner should never become an emotionally charged situation.

Tell that to the offenders who get emotionally charged.

I never understand why people who commit minor offenses get so violent when arrested. The judges are just going to let them walk anyway.
I don't understand that that being the case you would bother to arrest them in the first place.

In Manchester last year 800,000 reported crimes went unanswered, a consequence of Gov austerity cuts under the Tories since 2010. If you get a fake £20 note don't phone the police cos if you get through they will probably tell you where to stick it!
 
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How Are Police Officers Trained In the US
In developing its professional staff, the United States Capitol Police (USCP) empowers individuals to reach their full potential, ensuring professional growth and career opportunities within the Department. –The United States Capitol Police
The United States boasts having one of the most trained and professional police forces in the world. Becoming a police officer involves years of rigorous training. Even then, there is no assurance that you would fully qualify to become a full pledged police officer.

Becoming a police officer is more of a passion than a means of employment for many people. They find satisfaction knowing that they are contributing to keeping their country safe and peaceful. Police officers are often chosen not for what they have done, but rather what they could do to serve the country.

This is why most states do not require applicants to have any bachelor degrees. A high school degree is already sufficient when applying for officership. Nevertheless, the training they undergo assures that they are well equipped when facing real life scenarios.

Requirements To Become A Police Officer:~

Hiya babycakes!
I read that police basic training in the US varies widely in Sth Carolina it's around 16 months & in California 24. London 3 years and we don't need firearm training.

I think it comes down to both the quality of both the applicants and the training whether you end up with a police service (they are called a service and not a force now in the UK)
that is fit for purpose.

Sorry to hear you have been in your words "rear-ended" many times in the US. Can you give more details - have you got pics?

Typical dirty minded Brit.
I'm sure you'd agree we are not all "dirty-minded".
I hold up Boris Johnson as our champion of moral values.

I think you have been living in the US a little too long and are in danger of becoming like that megamouth Markle all acid-tonged and bitter. You don't want to become like her my popsicle.

:cuckoo:
 

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On the other side we have a ton of financial crimes that get ignored.

There are many different kinds of policing.

A street cop doesn't have the training or resources to investigate insider trading or corporate embezzlement. Those crimes aren't ignored, people are prosecuted all the time. But, those complex cases involve several agencies and entirely different kinds of specialists and sometimes take years to prosecute. When those people are arrested, they typically don't jack up with police.

On the other hand, trained accounting fraud and e-crime specialists aren't driving around the streets handing out tickets for speeding.

Horses for courses.

It matters none to the people protesting. They see themselves get arrested for something minor, many times for something that should never be illegal to start with while understanding others crimes were so bad they crashed the economy and nothing was done to them.

They see a guy get jumped by the cops and killed simply because he was minding his own business walking home from the store and wanted left alone. Nothing was done to those who did that.
 

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Training is awesome if the right lessons have been learned and passed on. The problems arise when the wrong lessons are adapted.

Since it is in the news let’s start with Use of Force. Especially lethal force. Most departments study the worst LEO shootouts to show the officers what they can do instead. To survive. And win. If they find themselves in that situation sometime in the future. One of the most famous is the Miami FBI shootout.

This shootout marked the end of Revolvers being the weapon of choice for LEO’s. It was the beginning of the Wondernine era, and the inspiration for the .40 Cal pistols.

So let’s talk about what happened. And what went wrong. Better yet. I’ll let Paul Harrell do it.


If you bothered to watch the video you saw Paul explain the way that every single Agent engaged the baddies. The distance. The weapon, the location and shooting position. What you also noticed is every agent missed. Their bullets did not hit the target. The most powerful ammo out of the most awesome weapon is ineffective if it misses the target.

Plenty of courage. Weak on planning. And ineffective execution.

Now here is where one change to LEO’s I have long advocated comes into play. The Aviation Accident style of investigation.

In another thread I said the investigation into Sully said he made a few mistakes. One was failing to flip the “ditch switch” which closes all valves and openings on the bottom of the plane to help it float longer.

The investigation determined that this switch wouldn’t have made a difference since the skin had cracked and the water was coming in anyway. But the point is this. They found fault with one of the greatest examples of airmanship in the decade.

The investigations are designed to do that. Find every nit picky way that it could be done better. Even things that don’t matter or are irrelevant. They are identified and mentioned.

Why does this matter? Because by learning all we can we can make it better for the rest of the cops. If we stop learning the wrong lessons. If we stop looking to justify each incident and instead look to learn all we can we can save lives. Cops and citizens.

Or we can continue making each encounter a game of Russian Roulette.
 

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It matters none to the people protesting.

Yeah, I get that. It's far too complex a concept for protestors to grasp. They only seem to respond to emotional appeals.
 

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It matters none to the people protesting.

Yeah, I get that. It's far too complex a concept for protestors to grasp. They only seem to respond to emotional appeals.

It's not complex. It's corrupt.

You get that police don't write the laws. The politicians you elect do that. Politicians also tell police which laws to enforce and how to do it.

There is no law that requires an officer to detain someone simply walking home from the store.
 

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There is no law that requires an officer to detain someone simply walking home from the store.

However, there are several that require police to detain anyone suspected of committing an offense. It's kind of their raison d'etre.
 

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There is no law that requires an officer to detain someone simply walking home from the store.

However, there are several that require police to detain anyone suspected of committing an offense. It's kind of their raison d'etre.

Elijah McClain was never suspected of committing anything. Lies were created to make it look like Breonna Taylor had.

The officer that lied to the courts had no charges brought against him.
 

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There is no law that requires an officer to detain someone simply walking home from the store.

However, there are several that require police to detain anyone suspected of committing an offense. It's kind of their raison d'etre.

Elijah McClain was never suspected of committing anything. Lies were created to make it look like Breonna Taylor had.

The officer that lied to the courts had no charges brought against him.

Of course, that's your opinion. You weren't there and have no first-hand knowledge of the case.
 

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