Police officers are retiring and quitting

[Aldo Raine]

You should pay them a bit more. You might attract better calibre people.

Nothing wrong with the caliber of people we have right now in the tremendous City of Hermitage.

They certainly look like they are ready to kick ass, I'm not inclined to give them any lip.

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To be honest I wouldn't be inclined to give any police officer any lip!!!
MAGA

So if you were doing nothing wrong or the elderly woman they throw to the ground was not doing anything wrong, you would not try to stop them when they violate the law?

That's a whole different ballgame!

 

[Jets]

Understandable.

Not sure who would want to be a police officer right now...

But a problem of their own making.
Police have no one else to blame, except maybe the makers of bodycameras.

Thats fine, but the problem isn’t going away anytime soon regardless of these reforms. If both good and bad cops are leaving the job, how do the states and municipalities replace those officers without lowering standards even further?

There essentially were no cops until after about 1900 when the automobile made cops profitable.
We did fine then, likely better than now.
So there is no reason to assume we need cops at all.
They arrive too late to actually do anything but write up a report.

Would you advocate eliminating police departments?

 

[Claudette]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

Good. It's not like it's hard to replace the bad cops.

You signing up?

Nah. That idiot probably doesn't have a gun and sure can't take care of himself. He calls the cops for that. Wonder what his stupid ass will do when there are no cops?? Maybe a social worker or Park Ranger will show up. LOL

Most things do not require a gun.
For example, if someone is trying to break in, they likely thought the house was unoccupied and are easily scared away.
A baseball bat is good enough.
The cops never get there until its too late, so "when there are no cops", there will be no change.

LOL Tell that to the folks who have been shot in their own homes.

Never bring a bat to a gunfight.

Cops get there as quick as they can.

Oh if there weren't cops I think you would find a big change.

Criminals who commit home burglaries are never intending to run into anyone, and are picking homes they think are empty.
I don't ever remember of reading about people being shot in their own home, except by police, like Breonna Taylor.
If you compare the number of police with the size of their district, police should always be able to respond to any call in less than a minute or 2. But they never response in less than 15 minutes and sometimes 30. Which means they not only are coming from the precinct station, but are taking their time about that even.
If there weren't cops, then I think every household would be armed, and I think that would be a huge improvement.

If you say so. Good luck with having no cops when you call.

 

[westwall]

You should pay them a bit more. You might attract better calibre people.

They are paid quite well. Not good enough in my opinion, but the larger cities cops are paid over 100,000. They do need much better training in my opinion, and the qualified immunity needs to be done away with.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

Good. It's not like it's hard to replace the bad cops.

You were dropped on your head huh?

The dumb cat says cops who retire are bad cops

 

[westwall]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

Good. It's not like it's hard to replace the bad cops.

Why are you assuming that its "bad cops" who are quitting?

Wouldn't it be more likely that competent police officers would be the ones more like to hang up their badges? After all, competent people tend to have more opportunities available for them as other employers are interested in their services.

So then you're admitting it's the incompetents that are keeping their jobs? Because they don't have the opportunities due to their incompetence?

Partly. Government jobs are pretty easy to get, and once you have it, the chance that you actually get in trouble is pretty low. This asshole Chauvin is an example. He should have never been a cop in the first place. He has multiple complaints of heavy handed policing, and civil rights violations. The unions helped him avoid problems, but the government system itself is corrupt. It is amazingly difficult to get rid of ANY government bureaucrat that is corrupt.

That needs to change.

 

[westwall]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

Good. It's not like it's hard to replace the bad cops.

You signing up?

Nah. That idiot probably doesn't have a gun and sure can't take care of himself. He calls the cops for that. Wonder what his stupid ass will do when there are no cops?? Maybe a social worker or Park Ranger will show up. LOL

Most things do not require a gun.
For example, if someone is trying to break in, they likely thought the house was unoccupied and are easily scared away.
A baseball bat is good enough.
The cops never get there until its too late, so "when there are no cops", there will be no change.

If you truly believe this then you are an idiot.

 

[westwall]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, for example, saw retirements increase by 37 percent in 2020. But they claim the rise isn’t related to the push for police reforms across the country.

New York City’s Police Department saw an 87 percent increase in retirements from 2019 to 2020. Union officials in the largest police force in the nation say the exodus is being fueled by pressure by racial advocates to defund police or impose major reforms.

Nearly 20 percent of Minneapolis police officers retired or took leaves of absence following the death of George Floyd. It could get worse. Minneapolis city officials are waiting to see if the leaves of absences become retirements. “It’s serious,” said the VP of the board of trustees for the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago. “A lot of these people aren’t retiring. They’re quitting,” he said.

Portland, Oregon, has seen months of unrelenting riots. Police officers, some high ranking, are leaving in droves because they say they are “overworked, overwhelmed, and burned out.” These, and some very cutting comments, were part of 31 written exit interviews. Of the 117 officers who left, 43 of them simply quit.

Wonder how many of these cities are filling these positions with social workers.

Police officers are retiring and quitting at record levels

I wonder what would happen if police just collectively decided to take a sick out one day, and let the criminals know about it.

Probably wouldn't be an issue in the rural areas, but the suburban and urban areas would be in for a very rude shock.

It's called the "Blue Flu" and it's happened many times in major city Police Departments, usually during Union negotiations.

And the funny thing is that every time the police do a "blue flu" call in, crime reduces.
The city still caves and gives them the raises they want, because the city is not interested in if crime goes up or down, but instead are only interested in that $30 million a year that police generate in citation revenue.

No, crime increases, it just isn't reported because no cops take the reports you fool.

 

[StormAl]

This is good.

Bad cops are getting the msg to find other work.

 

[Muhammed]

You should pay them a bit more. You might attract better calibre people.

Nothing wrong with the caliber of people we have right now in the tremendous City of Hermitage.

They certainly look like they are ready to kick ass, I'm not inclined to give them any lip.

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They'll 'roid rage on your ass.

All cops should tested for anabolic steroids. And it should be done randomly so they can't simply time their cycles around the tests like pro athletes do.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You should pay them a bit more. You might attract better calibre people.

Nothing wrong with the caliber of people we have right now in the tremendous City of Hermitage.

They certainly look like they are ready to kick ass, I'm not inclined to give them any lip.

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You wouldnt challenge them to a pie eating contest would you ?

 

[Rigby5]

Understandable.

Not sure who would want to be a police officer right now...

But a problem of their own making.
Police have no one else to blame, except maybe the makers of bodycameras.

Thats fine, but the problem isn’t going away anytime soon regardless of these reforms. If both good and bad cops are leaving the job, how do the states and municipalities replace those officers without lowering standards even further?

There essentially were no cops until after about 1900 when the automobile made cops profitable.
We did fine then, likely better than now.
So there is no reason to assume we need cops at all.
They arrive too late to actually do anything but write up a report.

Would you advocate eliminating police departments?

Absolutely.
Police are a contradiction to a democratic republic, and will always be or become abusive.
Police are always the means by which dictators take over.
Again we did well or even better before 1900 when we started experimenting with police.

 

[Rigby5]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

Good. It's not like it's hard to replace the bad cops.

You signing up?

Nah. That idiot probably doesn't have a gun and sure can't take care of himself. He calls the cops for that. Wonder what his stupid ass will do when there are no cops?? Maybe a social worker or Park Ranger will show up. LOL

Most things do not require a gun.
For example, if someone is trying to break in, they likely thought the house was unoccupied and are easily scared away.
A baseball bat is good enough.
The cops never get there until its too late, so "when there are no cops", there will be no change.

If you truly believe this then you are an idiot.

So then tell me how many times in your life have police saved you from some armed assault?
Did the police ever do anything you could not do yourself if you have a firearm in the house?

 

[Rigby5]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, for example, saw retirements increase by 37 percent in 2020. But they claim the rise isn’t related to the push for police reforms across the country.

New York City’s Police Department saw an 87 percent increase in retirements from 2019 to 2020. Union officials in the largest police force in the nation say the exodus is being fueled by pressure by racial advocates to defund police or impose major reforms.

Nearly 20 percent of Minneapolis police officers retired or took leaves of absence following the death of George Floyd. It could get worse. Minneapolis city officials are waiting to see if the leaves of absences become retirements. “It’s serious,” said the VP of the board of trustees for the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago. “A lot of these people aren’t retiring. They’re quitting,” he said.

Portland, Oregon, has seen months of unrelenting riots. Police officers, some high ranking, are leaving in droves because they say they are “overworked, overwhelmed, and burned out.” These, and some very cutting comments, were part of 31 written exit interviews. Of the 117 officers who left, 43 of them simply quit.

Wonder how many of these cities are filling these positions with social workers.

Police officers are retiring and quitting at record levels

I wonder what would happen if police just collectively decided to take a sick out one day, and let the criminals know about it.

Probably wouldn't be an issue in the rural areas, but the suburban and urban areas would be in for a very rude shock.

It's called the "Blue Flu" and it's happened many times in major city Police Departments, usually during Union negotiations.

And the funny thing is that every time the police do a "blue flu" call in, crime reduces.
The city still caves and gives them the raises they want, because the city is not interested in if crime goes up or down, but instead are only interested in that $30 million a year that police generate in citation revenue.

No, crime increases, it just isn't reported because no cops take the reports you fool.

Wrong.
When there is blue flu, the office staff are still there.
Crimes called in are still reported.
That does not change.
So then the rate of crime does always reduce when there is blue flu.
Likely because people are aware and take more precautions themselves, which then makes criminals less inclined.
Criminals are not bothered by police because they show up too late.
But if average people start taking more precautions, that makes crime much harder.

 

[Jets]

Understandable.

Not sure who would want to be a police officer right now...

But a problem of their own making.
Police have no one else to blame, except maybe the makers of bodycameras.

Thats fine, but the problem isn’t going away anytime soon regardless of these reforms. If both good and bad cops are leaving the job, how do the states and municipalities replace those officers without lowering standards even further?

There essentially were no cops until after about 1900 when the automobile made cops profitable.
We did fine then, likely better than now.
So there is no reason to assume we need cops at all.
They arrive too late to actually do anything but write up a report.

Would you advocate eliminating police departments?

Absolutely.
Police are a contradiction to a democratic republic, and will always be or become abusive.
Police are always the means by which dictators take over.
Again we did well or even better before 1900 when we started experimenting with police.

Ok. Here is where we part ways...

 

[Concerned American]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

Good. It's not like it's hard to replace the bad cops.

Why are you assuming that its "bad cops" who are quitting?

Wouldn't it be more likely that competent police officers would be the ones more like to hang up their badges? After all, competent people tend to have more opportunities available for them as other employers are interested in their services.

HaHaHa, places that support their LE are advertising in these areas and we're getting some great cops. Portland, Denver, Seattle, Minneapolis and NYC aren't too happy that their officers are moving out though. We're sayin' "Come on down." I hope BLM/Antifa burn all these liberal shitholes to the ground.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, for example, saw retirements increase by 37 percent in 2020. But they claim the rise isn’t related to the push for police reforms across the country.

New York City’s Police Department saw an 87 percent increase in retirements from 2019 to 2020. Union officials in the largest police force in the nation say the exodus is being fueled by pressure by racial advocates to defund police or impose major reforms.

Nearly 20 percent of Minneapolis police officers retired or took leaves of absence following the death of George Floyd. It could get worse. Minneapolis city officials are waiting to see if the leaves of absences become retirements. “It’s serious,” said the VP of the board of trustees for the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago. “A lot of these people aren’t retiring. They’re quitting,” he said.

Portland, Oregon, has seen months of unrelenting riots. Police officers, some high ranking, are leaving in droves because they say they are “overworked, overwhelmed, and burned out.” These, and some very cutting comments, were part of 31 written exit interviews. Of the 117 officers who left, 43 of them simply quit.

Wonder how many of these cities are filling these positions with social workers.

Police officers are retiring and quitting at record levels

Good. Weed out the ones who want to harm people with impunity.

 

[martybegan]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, for example, saw retirements increase by 37 percent in 2020. But they claim the rise isn’t related to the push for police reforms across the country.

New York City’s Police Department saw an 87 percent increase in retirements from 2019 to 2020. Union officials in the largest police force in the nation say the exodus is being fueled by pressure by racial advocates to defund police or impose major reforms.

Nearly 20 percent of Minneapolis police officers retired or took leaves of absence following the death of George Floyd. It could get worse. Minneapolis city officials are waiting to see if the leaves of absences become retirements. “It’s serious,” said the VP of the board of trustees for the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago. “A lot of these people aren’t retiring. They’re quitting,” he said.

Portland, Oregon, has seen months of unrelenting riots. Police officers, some high ranking, are leaving in droves because they say they are “overworked, overwhelmed, and burned out.” These, and some very cutting comments, were part of 31 written exit interviews. Of the 117 officers who left, 43 of them simply quit.

Wonder how many of these cities are filling these positions with social workers.

Police officers are retiring and quitting at record levels

I wonder what would happen if police just collectively decided to take a sick out one day, and let the criminals know about it.

Probably wouldn't be an issue in the rural areas, but the suburban and urban areas would be in for a very rude shock.

Only a day, make it a week, let it sink in.

I think a shift, if publicly stated say 24 hours before would get the message across.

24 hours would be too short to get full guard mobilization, and guess where many of the guard comes from?

 

[martybegan]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, for example, saw retirements increase by 37 percent in 2020. But they claim the rise isn’t related to the push for police reforms across the country.

New York City’s Police Department saw an 87 percent increase in retirements from 2019 to 2020. Union officials in the largest police force in the nation say the exodus is being fueled by pressure by racial advocates to defund police or impose major reforms.

Nearly 20 percent of Minneapolis police officers retired or took leaves of absence following the death of George Floyd. It could get worse. Minneapolis city officials are waiting to see if the leaves of absences become retirements. “It’s serious,” said the VP of the board of trustees for the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago. “A lot of these people aren’t retiring. They’re quitting,” he said.

Portland, Oregon, has seen months of unrelenting riots. Police officers, some high ranking, are leaving in droves because they say they are “overworked, overwhelmed, and burned out.” These, and some very cutting comments, were part of 31 written exit interviews. Of the 117 officers who left, 43 of them simply quit.

Wonder how many of these cities are filling these positions with social workers.

Police officers are retiring and quitting at record levels

I wonder what would happen if police just collectively decided to take a sick out one day, and let the criminals know about it.

Probably wouldn't be an issue in the rural areas, but the suburban and urban areas would be in for a very rude shock.

It's called the "Blue Flu" and it's happened many times in major city Police Departments, usually during Union negotiations.

It would give the progressives a true view of what happens when you "Defund the police"

 

[martybegan]

Police officers across the country are retiring and quitting at record levels.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, for example, saw retirements increase by 37 percent in 2020. But they claim the rise isn’t related to the push for police reforms across the country.

New York City’s Police Department saw an 87 percent increase in retirements from 2019 to 2020. Union officials in the largest police force in the nation say the exodus is being fueled by pressure by racial advocates to defund police or impose major reforms.

Nearly 20 percent of Minneapolis police officers retired or took leaves of absence following the death of George Floyd. It could get worse. Minneapolis city officials are waiting to see if the leaves of absences become retirements. “It’s serious,” said the VP of the board of trustees for the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago. “A lot of these people aren’t retiring. They’re quitting,” he said.

Portland, Oregon, has seen months of unrelenting riots. Police officers, some high ranking, are leaving in droves because they say they are “overworked, overwhelmed, and burned out.” These, and some very cutting comments, were part of 31 written exit interviews. Of the 117 officers who left, 43 of them simply quit.

Wonder how many of these cities are filling these positions with social workers.

Police officers are retiring and quitting at record levels

I wonder what would happen if police just collectively decided to take a sick out one day, and let the criminals know about it.

Probably wouldn't be an issue in the rural areas, but the suburban and urban areas would be in for a very rude shock.

It's called the "Blue Flu" and it's happened many times in major city Police Departments, usually during Union negotiations.

And the funny thing is that every time the police do a "blue flu" call in, crime reduces.
The city still caves and gives them the raises they want, because the city is not interested in if crime goes up or down, but instead are only interested in that $30 million a year that police generate in citation revenue.

Those are usually called without warning, and only in limited areas.

And crime doesn't decrease, recorded crime decreases due to the lack of officers.