Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[ReinyDays]

Maybe ask google if temperature affects atmospheric pressure.

Go ahead ... and then explain the answer ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Still confused you are.

You have NO EVIDENCE that decreasing planetary temps increases surface air pressure. ALL of the evidence shows increasing a planet's temperature increases surface air pressure.

Sincerely,

Jurassic, Mars, and Pluto

You have NO EVIDENCE that decreasing planetary temps increases surface air pressure.

Except here, on Earth, now, when temperatures fall, surface air pressure increases.

Now if you have evidence that when temperatures here on Earth, now, increase,
that somehow increases surface air pressure, you should provide it.

Claiming that because CO2 sublimes on Mars or N2 sublimes on Pluto, resulting in higher surface air pressure, means higher temperatures on Earth increase SAP is creative, but wrong.

If you want to provide some useful evidence for your claim, find actual numbers for the amount of air trapped in the ice on Earth.

The idea that if all that air were released SAP would increase to 3-5 bars, while original, is also nuts.

And you still need to explain why such a large increase of SAP is diluted by higher temps.

Because that was hilarious!!!

 

[ding]

Go ahead ... and then explain the answer ...

Don’t turn into EMH. It’s out there. I don’t need to argue with you about it or spoon feed you.

 

[ReinyDays]

Don’t turn into EMH. It’s out there. I don’t need to argue with you about it or spoon feed you.

No it's not ... or you'd post a ******* citation jackass ...

PV = nRT ...

Oh wait ... I'm sorry ... that's college science ... over your head apparently ... you were sick with the flu the day your chemistry class did that experiment ...

SSDD is confusing density with pressure ... they're related but they're not the same thing ...

 

[EMH]

Except here, on Earth, now, when temperatures fall, surface air pressure increases.

That is strictly a northern hemisphere slant of winter/summer that does not factor in the fact that Earth is 3 million miles closer to Sun in "winter" and receives 7% more energy from Sun for being so. All you ever do is cite stuff already blown away. Are you arguing that, while Mars and Pluto clearly demonstrate correlation between SAP and distance to Sun, that somehow Earth doesn't? Why? Don't slither away again, answer that...

 

[EMH]

Claiming that because CO2 sublimes on Mars or N2 sublimes on Pluto, resulting in higher surface air pressure, means higher temperatures on Earth increase SAP is creative, but wrong.

Mars clearly proves SAP tracks temperature/distance from Sun during periods without significant changes in overall atmospheric molecular count. You just can't seem to admit that, since it is there, you cannot refute it, and it absolutely crushes your entire bogus narrative.

 

[EMH]

No it's not ... or you'd post a ******* citation jackass ...

PV = nRT ...

Oh wait ... I'm sorry ... that's college science ... over your head apparently ... you were sick with the flu the day your chemistry class did that experiment ...

SSDD is confusing density with pressure ... they're related but they're not the same thing ...

Ding's primary climate thesis is three words...


WATER CAUSES ICE


never mind water is WARMER than ice... duh....

 

[EMH]

Atmospheric pressure is defined as weight ... and weight is gravity ... how does temperature effect gravity? ...

From PV = nRT ... increasing temperature increases volume at constant pressure and mass ... i.e. constant gravity ... what Newton said ...

It is hard to believe that the correlation change from


rigid container to planet atmosphere



for temperature is 100% to ZERO... No. Certainly force constrained is not rigid, but it is force, and "contained" by force. The rise of an atmosphere from warming is the result of a force, heat, expanding/pressurizing gas. What pushes an atmosphere higher because warming/heating pushes in all directions, including down, resulting in increased pressure.

There is a correlation.

The skateboard on Mars proves it.

The internet definition of SAP is wrong. A temperature correlation factor should be included.


And since the skateboard proves temp/SAP correlation, then

ANY PLANET with SAP not rising is NOT WARMING and NOT ONGOING A NET ICE MELT regardless of what the "ice" is....


Earth SAP going down slightly over the past 70 years = PROOF Earth is NOT WARMING and NOT UNDERGOING A NET ICE MELT

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That is strictly a northern hemisphere slant of winter/summer that does not factor in the fact that Earth is 3 million miles closer to Sun in "winter" and receives 7% more energy from Sun for being so. All you ever do is cite stuff already blown away. Are you arguing that, while Mars and Pluto clearly demonstrate correlation between SAP and distance to Sun, that somehow Earth doesn't? Why? Don't slither away again, answer that...

With all that extra energy, is SAP higher in summer or winter in the Southern Hemisphere?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Mars clearly proves SAP tracks temperature/distance from Sun during periods without significant changes in overall atmospheric molecular count. You just can't seem to admit that, since it is there, you cannot refute it, and it absolutely crushes your entire bogus narrative.

What is the mass of the trapped air in the ice? It must be a lot.
Show me how much.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is hard to believe that the correlation change from


rigid container to planet atmosphere



for temperature is 100% to ZERO... No. Certainly force constrained is not rigid, but it is force, and "contained" by force. The rise of an atmosphere from warming is the result of a force, heat, expanding/pressurizing gas. What pushes an atmosphere higher because warming/heating pushes in all directions, including down, resulting in increased pressure.

There is a correlation.

The skateboard on Mars proves it.

The internet definition of SAP is wrong. A temperature correlation factor should be included.


And since the skateboard proves temp/SAP correlation, then

ANY PLANET with SAP not rising is NOT WARMING and NOT ONGOING A NET ICE MELT regardless of what the "ice" is....


Earth SAP going down slightly over the past 70 years = PROOF Earth is NOT WARMING and NOT UNDERGOING A NET ICE MELT

What pushes an atmosphere higher because warming/heating pushes in all directions, including down, resulting in increased pressure.

Is that why pressure is lower when it's warmer?
All that extra pushing down, tricking the instruments?

 

[EMH]

With all that extra energy, is SAP higher in summer or winter in the Southern Hemisphere?

Again the Mossad slithers away from the Mars data....


And the Mossad was just busted for posting a FUDGE CHART of SAP from 2007.... where pressure was highest... on land more than a mile above sea level = laughable.


Tell us that, while Mars and Pluto SAP respond to distance from Sun, somehow Earth does not...

except you have DODGED ANSWERING THAT for four pages here....

 

[EMH]

Is that why pressure is lower when it's warmer?

On Mars and Pluto that lie is completely refuted.

On Earth your "evidence" is northern hemisphere and devoid of accounting for distance from Sun differential.... which means your "fact" is already refuted...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Again the Mossad slithers away from the Mars data....


And the Mossad was just busted for posting a FUDGE CHART of SAP from 2007.... where pressure was highest... on land more than a mile above sea level = laughable.


Tell us that, while Mars and Pluto SAP respond to distance from Sun, somehow Earth does not...

except you have DODGED ANSWERING THAT for four pages here....

Tell us that, while Mars and Pluto SAP respond to distance from Sun, somehow Earth does not...

Your argument is very convincing. So, show how distance impacts SAP on Earth.

 

[EMH]

Tell us that, while Mars and Pluto SAP respond to distance from Sun, somehow Earth does not...

Your argument is very convincing. So, show how distance impacts SAP on Earth.

The only data we have on that subject is northern hemisphere data, where SAP increases 1% when Sun is closest to Earth vs furthest away.

And we have your fudged fraud of a pressure chart from 2007, which is laughably exemplary of not just how easily the Co2 FRAUD produces FUDGE (it took you and your pals, what, 2 hours to cook that up), but just how stupid the Co2 FRAUD is on BASIC SCIENCE ISSUES....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

On Mars and Pluto that lie is completely refuted.

On Earth your "evidence" is northern hemisphere and devoid of accounting for distance from Sun differential.... which means your "fact" is already refuted...

On Mars and Pluto that lie is completely refuted

Your argument is that SAP has been falling on Earth, because it increases on
Mars and Pluto when CO2 and N2 sublimates?

On Earth your "evidence" is northern hemisphere

If I can find a location in the southern hemisphere where SAP is higher when it's colder
and lower when it's warmer......I win?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The only data we have on that subject is northern hemisphere data, where SAP increases 1% when Sun is closest to Earth vs furthest away.

And we have your fudged fraud of a pressure chart from 2007, which is laughably exemplary of not just how easily the Co2 FRAUD produces FUDGE (it took you and your pals, what, 2 hours to cook that up), but just how stupid the Co2 FRAUD is on BASIC SCIENCE ISSUES....

The only data we have on that subject is northern hemisphere data, where SAP increases 1% when Sun is closest to Earth vs furthest away.

If SAP increases in the northern hemisphere when we're closer to the Sun,
it must really increase a lot more in the southern hemisphere where it's warmer
and closer, right?

Show me.

Or don't they measure SAP? No barometers?

 

[EMH]

Your argument is that SAP has been falling on Earth, because it increases on
Mars and Pluto when CO2 and N2 sublimates?

No, Pluto and Mars prove SAP/temp/distance from Sun correlation and hence completely refute all your BS that cooling increases SAP, which is wrong, and the "definition" of SAP which excludes temps, which is also wrong.

And you are left defending the laughable position that


cooling causes ice melt
warming causes freezing


which is right up there with Ding claiming water causes ice...


Can you at least notice that ice melt and warming are both in the "same direction....?"

LOL!!!

 

[EMH]

The only data we have on that subject is northern hemisphere data, where SAP increases 1% when Sun is closest to Earth vs furthest away.

If SAP increases in the northern hemisphere when we're closer to the Sun,
it must really increase a lot more in the southern hemisphere where it's warmer
and closer, right?

Show me.

Or don't they measure SAP? No barometers?

You cannot find any data either.

But the FBI can, from all over the world, and may be gathering it right now, before your side FUDGES IT....

 

[EMH]

If I can find a location in the southern hemisphere where SAP is higher when it's colder
and lower when it's warmer......I win?

Your "first attempt" to do that was the laughable 2007 fudged fraud claiming highest pressure on land a mile above sea level...

and hence your credibility is zero. You fudge data. You lie, and you were just BUSTED right here doing so...