Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[EMH]

Besides Earth.

Earth validates = Jurassic = warmer and higher SAP

You have no such period in Earth history refuting that.

Release the gas trapped on Antarctica and Greenland and Earth atmosphere/SAP goes up 3-5 fold

Post your evidence.

Google Search

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The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic period was likely significantly higher than it is today, at around 3.2–5.0 bar compared to the current 1 bar



That is what happens when Earth has two polar oceans and little to no land near Poles, no or very little ice.

Dazzle me, find out just how much a foot of glacier ice has in the way of air bubbles

All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase. That is the data... the JURASSIC DATA.... you just do not like it.

Obviously the bottom layers of Antarctic ice are under 2 miles of ice and are compressed to a ridiculous 100+? compression....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Actually you and Ding have. You have both claimed that "cooling" "increases" SAP and used that NORTHERN HEMISPHERE data point as evidence. In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE SAP goes up 1% during winter from summer. What does it do in the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE? It should actually show a larger gap and its summer should be higher SAP than winter.



And then there is the obvious. WHETHER it is new gas adding because of "ice melt" and/or warming due to decreasing distance to Sun, Pluto and Mars both prove that warming a planet = increasing SAP.

And there is absolutely no reason to believe that does not apply to Earth. And you cannot come up with one rebuttal despite hours of thinking it over...



So if WARMING increases SAP, and ADDING GAS increases SAP, and Earth SAP is actually going down...

EARTH IS NOT WARMING and NOT EXPERIENCING A NET ICE MELT

PROVEN

Actually you and Ding have. You have both claimed that "cooling" "increases" SAP and used that NORTHERN HEMISPHERE data point as evidence.

I've made that claim only because cooling does increase SAP.
You want me to find the difference between summer and winter SAP in the Southern Hemisphere?
Shouldn't take but a minute.

What does it do in the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE? It should actually show a larger gap and its summer should be higher SAP than winter.

Here's your chance to find some evidence first. I'll wait.

So if WARMING increases SAP, and ADDING GAS increases SAP,

But warming doesn't increase SAP.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Earth validates = Jurassic = warmer and higher SAP

You have no such period in Earth history refuting that.

Google Search

www.google.com

The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic period was likely significantly higher than it is today, at around 3.2–5.0 bar compared to the current 1 bar



That is what happens when Earth has two polar oceans and little to no land near Poles, no or very little ice.






All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase. That is the data... the JURASSIC DATA.... you just do not like it.

Obviously the bottom layers of Antarctic ice are under 2 miles of ice and are compressed to a ridiculous 100+? compression....

Earth validates = Jurassic = warmer and higher SAP

What was the temperature? What was the SAP? How do you know?

You have no such period in Earth history refuting that.

Except right now. You have any evidence on Earth from right now?

The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic period was likely

Likely? DURR

Now you sound like one of those AGW loving homos.

All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase.

Interesting word.....diluted.
What do you mean by that? How can SAP be "diluted"?

Obviously the bottom layers of Antarctic ice are under 2 miles of ice and are compressed to a ridiculous 100+? compression...

Obviously. That's why they hold very little if any air.

 

[EMH]

only because cooling does increase SAP

and what is your evidence of that, since the only "evidence" you have of that just got refuted....

You want me to find the difference between summer and winter SAP in the Southern Hemisphere?
Shouldn't take but a minute.

We are about to get another Co2 FRAUD taxpayer funded FUDGE JOB....

Here's your chance to find some evidence first. I'll wait.

Didn't find any. It was hard to find even one SAP chart like the 70 year one...

 

[EMH]

But warming doesn't increase SAP.

It does on Mars and Pluto. This is hilarious....

but but but warm air rises....

LOL!!!

 

[EMH]

Earth validates = Jurassic = warmer and higher SAP

What was the temperature? What was the SAP? How do you know?

SAP link already posted above...

jurassic warmer wetter - Google Search

Except right now

LMAO!!!

How is "now" refuting it?

LOL!!!

but but but warm air rises.... and it does on Mars and Pluto too, but that does not change the fact that if you warm the entire atmopshere, SAP goes UP, and you have NOTHING that even begins to refute that...

 

[EMH]

That's why they hold very little if any air.

The bottom layers of Antarctic Ice would expand to 100 fold the volume in just gas compared to the volume of ice that traps the air now if melted.

AA has 8 million cubic miles of ice, and it is an absolute lowball estimate of 50 million cubic miles of surface pressure gas coming out of it if it melted.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and what is your evidence of that, since the only "evidence" you have of that just got refuted....





We are about to get another Co2 FRAUD taxpayer funded FUDGE JOB....







Didn't find any. It was hard to find even one SAP chart like the 70 year one...

and what is your evidence of that, since the only "evidence" you have of that just got refuted....

 

[ding]

He has to be SSDD.
He takes a losing position (like photons know the temperature of possible destinations) and runs it into the ground.

SSDD was mostly before my time. I never really knew him. But if he is EMH, he would have been exhausting. That guy is a douche.

 

[ding]

The "official definition" right now is devoid of temperature. That is wrong. Mars proves it is wrong.

And because it is wrong other things are misdiagnosed, like the issue of "winter" causing a 1% increase in SAP.... instead of distance from Sun...

STFU. You are an idiot.

 

[EMH]

and what is your evidence of that, since the only "evidence" you have of that just got refuted....

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And precisely how did Co2 FRAUD measure pressure all over the world in 2007...???

Yeah, it did NOT....

FUDGE and FRAUd...

 

[EMH]

and what is your evidence of that, since the only "evidence" you have of that just got refuted....

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Curious, doesn't pressure fall with altitude...??




Search inside image

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Elevation_Zones,_Asia_(7242987510).jpg


What your map shows is HIGHER PRESSURE at HIGHER ALTITUDE on Asia....


Air pressure decreases as altitude increases, and at an elevation of one mile (1.6 kilometers), the air pressure is about 0.85 kilograms per square centimeter(12 pounds per square inch).


Air pressure is lower at higher altitudes because there are fewer gas molecules and the atmosphere is less dense. Gravity pulls most gas molecules in the atmosphere close to Earth's surface, so there are more gas particles and more collisions near the surface. The atmosphere is also deepest at sea level, so more air presses down from above.


Air pressure drops by about 26 millimeters (mm, or about 1 inch) for every 1,000 feet above sea level. In the lower atmosphere, air pressure drops by about 50% after every 5,000 meters in elevation





The Co2 FRAUD, it NEVER stops FUDGING DATA....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And precisely how did Co2 FRAUD measure pressure all over the world in 2007...???

Yeah, it did NOT....

FUDGE and FRAUd...

And precisely how did Co2 FRAUD measure pressure all over the world in 2007...???

Did it? Link?
Would it help your stupid claim more if it did or if it didn't?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Curious, doesn't pressure fall with altitude...??




Search inside image

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Elevation_Zones,_Asia_(7242987510).jpg


What your map shows is HIGHER PRESSURE at HIGHER ALTITUDE on Asia....


Air pressure decreases as altitude increases, and at an elevation of one mile (1.6 kilometers), the air pressure is about 0.85 kilograms per square centimeter(12 pounds per square inch).


Air pressure is lower at higher altitudes because there are fewer gas molecules and the atmosphere is less dense. Gravity pulls most gas molecules in the atmosphere close to Earth's surface, so there are more gas particles and more collisions near the surface. The atmosphere is also deepest at sea level, so more air presses down from above.


Air pressure drops by about 26 millimeters (mm, or about 1 inch) for every 1,000 feet above sea level. In the lower atmosphere, air pressure drops by about 50% after every 5,000 meters in elevation





The Co2 FRAUD, it NEVER stops FUDGING DATA....

Curious, doesn't pressure fall with altitude...??

Sure does.

Does that help your stupid claim?

What your map shows is HIGHER PRESSURE at HIGHER ALTITUDE on Asia....

You mean it shows higher pressure where it is colder.

Air pressure is lower at higher altitudes because there are fewer gas molecules and the atmosphere is less dense.

Don't forget, air pressure is lower at higher temperatures because there are fewer gas molecules and the atmosphere is less dense.

 

[EMH]

What your map shows is HIGHER PRESSURE at HIGHER ALTITUDE on Asia....

You mean it shows higher pressure where it is colder.

No, it shows higher pressure at altitude greater than 1 mile high, and that is absolutely laughable.

It also shows you are part of Co2 FRAUD, that you could cook up a "map" like that in an hour....


of course, you foolishly outed it as a fraud when you forgot

LOWER PRESSURE AT HIGHER ALTITUDE...

duh...

 

[ding]

No, it shows higher pressure at altitude greater than 1 mile high, and that is absolutely laughable.

It also shows you are part of Co2 FRAUD, that you could cook up a "map" like that in an hour....


of course, you foolishly outed it as a fraud when you forgot

LOWER PRESSURE AT HIGHER ALTITUDE...

duh...

STFU, Apu.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Earth validates = Jurassic = warmer and higher SAP

You have no such period in Earth history refuting that.

Google Search

www.google.com

The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic period was likely significantly higher than it is today, at around 3.2–5.0 bar compared to the current 1 bar



That is what happens when Earth has two polar oceans and little to no land near Poles, no or very little ice.






All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase. That is the data... the JURASSIC DATA.... you just do not like it.

Obviously the bottom layers of Antarctic ice are under 2 miles of ice and are compressed to a ridiculous 100+? compression....

All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase.

Interesting word.....diluted.
What do you mean by that? How can SAP be "diluted"?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, it shows higher pressure at altitude greater than 1 mile high, and that is absolutely laughable.

It also shows you are part of Co2 FRAUD, that you could cook up a "map" like that in an hour....


of course, you foolishly outed it as a fraud when you forgot

LOWER PRESSURE AT HIGHER ALTITUDE...

duh...

No, it shows higher pressure at altitude greater than 1 mile high, and that is absolutely laughable.

You think that map is meant to show the pressure on every mountain?
DURR.

Now, about your claim about world-wide SAP being higher during winter in the southern hemisphere......still looking for your data? LOL!

 

[EMH]

All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase.

Interesting word.....diluted.
What do you mean by that? How can SAP be "diluted"?

Jurassic = warmer

Warmer = higher surface air pressure as proven by Mars and Pluto


Hence, the 3-5 fold increase in SAP during Jurassic was all the gas trapped in ice today + warming, so NOT ALL of the SAP increase is from ice melt.

Duh...

 

[EMH]

You think that map is meant to show the pressure on every mountain?

The entire area your fudge map shows as over 1040 is on land in Asia that is higher than 1 mile from sea level. So, yeah, you and the Co2 FRAUD fudged the chart, and as usual, got basic things completely WRONG....

Duh....