Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[EMH]

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Really....

Truly.

Well, we're STILL waiting...

 

[ding]

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Well, we're STILL waiting...

Atmospheric pressure is a function of air density, fool.

 

[EMH]

Atmospheric pressure is a function of air density, fool.

The data from Mars completely refutes that...

 

[ding]

The data from Mars completely refutes that...

No data can ever refute that atmospheric pressure is a function of air density, dummy.

P is a symbol that represents pressure, which is the force a gas or vapor exerts on a specific area. The formula for pressure is P=F/A, where F is the force and A is the area. Now **** off.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Well, we're STILL waiting...

When the main component of the atmosphere CO2 (Mars) or Nitrogen (Pluto) freezes out of the atmosphere, of course pressure will rise when they turn back into gas.

But your stupid claim, this time, is that here, on Earth, over the last 70 years, the
reason why SAP is dropping is because the Earth is cooling.

You need evidence that shows that here, on Earth, now, cooling causes a decrease in SAP.

Despite plenty of dancing around, you're still batting 0.000

Come on, I know the Jews are hiding your evidence and making you look like a complete moron, but it's like you're not even trying.

Take a double dose of your meds and FOCUS.

Good luck.

 

[EMH]

atmospheric pressure is a function of air density

That is not the claim that it isn't. The claim is Mars proves TEMPERATURE is a correlating variable with high correlation, as the surface air pressure on Mars tracks Mars' temperature. The definition everywhere that surface air pressure is just mass of gas column above is WRONG and Mars proves it. Mars proves temperature is also a major factor.


mass of gas column times some sort of coefficient times temp

That is what Mars and Pluto prove.

That also raises real issues for the claim that on Earth surface air pressure rises during winter. That measurement is from Northern hemisphere. During winter Earth is closest to Sun and hence surface air pressure rises because of that, as Mars proves.

So your and Toddster's entire argument that "cooler air has higher air pressure" is actually wrong too...

 

[EMH]

P is a symbol that represents pressure, which is the force a gas or vapor exerts on a specific area

which is directly correlated with temperature - thanks.

 

[EMH]

When the main component of the atmosphere CO2 (Mars) or Nitrogen (Pluto) freezes out of the atmosphere, of course pressure will rise when they turn back into gas.

That is just the bottom of the "well" on the Mars SAP chart. The rest is not affected by that, so blaming the correlation on just that is officially refuted.

Pluto undoubtedly has the same chart, we just do not have a skateboard on Pluto to validate it.

But your stupid claim, this time, is that here, on Earth, over the last 70 years, the
reason why SAP is dropping is because the Earth is cooling

The official claim is that dropping Earth SAP proves two things at once...

1. Earth is not warming
2. Earth is experiencing precisely NO NET ICE MELT


because it does prove that, and hence Surface Air Pressure 100% refutes the main narrative of the Co2 FRAUD and the taxpayer funded Zionist Fascist "faux skeptics" who insist FUDGE is "real," and "warming" and "ice melt" are happening, because there is a star of David next to the pile of FUDGE...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That is not the claim that it isn't. The claim is Mars proves TEMPERATURE is a correlating variable with high correlation, as the surface air pressure on Mars tracks Mars' temperature. The definition everywhere that surface air pressure is just mass of gas column above is WRONG and Mars proves it. Mars proves temperature is also a major factor.


mass of gas column times some sort of coefficient times temp

That is what Mars and Pluto prove.

That also raises real issues for the claim that on Earth surface air pressure rises during winter. That measurement is from Northern hemisphere. During winter Earth is closest to Sun and hence surface air pressure rises because of that, as Mars proves.

So your and Toddster's entire argument that "cooler air has higher air pressure" is actually wrong too...

During winter Earth is closest to Sun and hence surface air pressure rises because of that,

Where is your data that shows the Earth's surface air pressure rises due to being closer to the Sun?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That is just the bottom of the "well" on the Mars SAP chart. The rest is not affected by that, so blaming the correlation on just that is officially refuted.

Pluto undoubtedly has the same chart, we just do not have a skateboard on Pluto to validate it.







The official claim is that dropping Earth SAP proves two things at once...

1. Earth is not warming
2. Earth is experiencing precisely NO NET ICE MELT


because it does prove that, and hence Surface Air Pressure 100% refutes the main narrative of the Co2 FRAUD and the taxpayer funded Zionist Fascist "faux skeptics" who insist FUDGE is "real," and "warming" and "ice melt" are happening, because there is a star of David next to the pile of FUDGE...

That is just the bottom of the "well" on the Mars SAP chart.

What is the bottom of what well?

The official claim is that dropping Earth SAP proves two things at once...

You showed SAP was dropping, I didn't know or care.

1. Earth is not warming

Why would pressure be dropping if Earth was cooling?

2. Earth is experiencing precisely NO NET ICE MELT

You never showed how much air is in the ice or how much air was escaping from the ice that is claimed to be melting. Without those actual measurements, you can't make any claim about added air.

 

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That is not the claim that it isn't. The claim is Mars proves TEMPERATURE is a correlating variable with high correlation, as the surface air pressure on Mars tracks Mars' temperature. The definition everywhere that surface air pressure is just mass of gas column above is WRONG and Mars proves it. Mars proves temperature is also a major factor.


mass of gas column times some sort of coefficient times temp

That is what Mars and Pluto prove.

That also raises real issues for the claim that on Earth surface air pressure rises during winter. That measurement is from Northern hemisphere. During winter Earth is closest to Sun and hence surface air pressure rises because of that, as Mars proves.

So your and Toddster's entire argument that "cooler air has higher air pressure" is actually wrong too...

It's a fact that atmospheric pressure is a function of air density.

 

[ding]

which is directly correlated with temperature - thanks.

It's directly correlated with gas composition and adjusted for temperature.

 

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[Toddsterpatriot]

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He has to be SSDD.
He takes a losing position (like photons know the temperature of possible destinations) and runs it into the ground.

 

[EMH]

During winter Earth is closest to Sun and hence surface air pressure rises because of that,

Where is your data that shows the Earth's surface air pressure rises due to being closer to the Sun?

Certainly the Mars SAP data proves that. It proves SAP rises as a planet with atmosphere gets closer to its sun. And so does Pluto...

The Earth SAP variance summer/winter is 1% roughly, and that is actually not about summer/winter, it is about Earth getting around a 7% boost in energy from Sun because of being 3 million miles closer.

Winter Sun Close Encounter | EarthDate

More than 3 million miles closer. The Sun is about 95 million miles away in summer, but just 92 million in winter.

And this is because Earth’s orbit is elliptical, with Earth following the closer part of its path during the northern winter.

You’d expect the nearer Sun to provide more solar energy to our planet and you’d be right: almost 7% more.




To argue why that law (closer to Sun = higher surface air pressure) would "break" for Earth requires an explanation, and you do not have one.

Earth's atmosphere is way bigger and thicker than Mars. The reason Mars SAP tracks so closely with distance from Sun is because it is so thin, and has no "cloud" issue, or an incredibly minor one. Earth atmosphere would respond much more slowly to distance from Sun because of its size, depth, and cloud issue. Indeed, a 7% increase in energy from Sun only produces, per our data now, a 1% increase in SAP. We need southern hemisphere data on this...

 

[EMH]

That is just the bottom of the "well" on the Mars SAP chart.

What is the bottom of what well?

The 60-180 degree portion of the chart, where Mars penetrates the freezing point of Co2.

1. Earth is not warming

Why would pressure be dropping if Earth was cooling?

2. Earth is experiencing precisely NO NET ICE MELT

You never showed how much air is in the ice or how much air was escaping from the ice that is claimed to be melting. Without those actual measurements, you can't make any claim about added air.

1. it does on Mars and Pluto. You do not have a planet that refutes it.

2. That's absolutely laughable. Release the gas trapped on Antarctica and Greenland and Earth atmosphere/SAP goes up 3-5 fold, and did during Jurassic. A foot of snow is one inch of water and 11 inches of gas. That's all the specifics needed.

 

[EMH]

It's directly correlated with gas composition and adjusted for temperature.

The "official definition" right now is devoid of temperature. That is wrong. Mars proves it is wrong.

And because it is wrong other things are misdiagnosed, like the issue of "winter" causing a 1% increase in SAP.... instead of distance from Sun...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Certainly the Mars SAP data proves that. It proves SAP rises as a planet with atmosphere gets closer to its sun. And so does Pluto...

The Earth SAP variance summer/winter is 1% roughly, and that is actually not about summer/winter, it is about Earth getting around a 7% boost in energy from Sun because of being 3 million miles closer.

Winter Sun Close Encounter | EarthDate

More than 3 million miles closer. The Sun is about 95 million miles away in summer, but just 92 million in winter.

And this is because Earth’s orbit is elliptical, with Earth following the closer part of its path during the northern winter.

You’d expect the nearer Sun to provide more solar energy to our planet and you’d be right: almost 7% more.




To argue why that law (closer to Sun = higher surface air pressure) would "break" for Earth requires an explanation, and you do not have one.

Earth's atmosphere is way bigger and thicker than Mars. The reason Mars SAP tracks so closely with distance from Sun is because it is so thin, and has no "cloud" issue, or an incredibly minor one. Earth atmosphere would respond much more slowly to distance from Sun because of its size, depth, and cloud issue. Indeed, a 7% increase in energy from Sun only produces, per our data now, a 1% increase in SAP. We need southern hemisphere data on this...

Certainly the Mars SAP data proves that. It proves SAP rises as a planet with atmosphere gets closer to its sun. And so does Pluto...

Neither of which has anything to do with your claim about Earth's SAP.

The Earth SAP variance summer/winter is 1% roughly, and that is actually not about summer/winter, it is about Earth getting around a 7% boost in energy from Sun because of being 3 million miles closer.

Where are these Earth-wide SAP measurements you're using to make this claim?

Indeed, a 7% increase in energy from Sun only produces, per our data now, a 1% increase in SAP. We need southern hemisphere data on this...

You've been making this claim only using northern hemisphere data?
You realize this means you're an even bigger moron than you initially appeared to be, right?

 

[EMH]

You've been making this claim only using northern hemisphere data?

Actually you and Ding have. You have both claimed that "cooling" "increases" SAP and used that NORTHERN HEMISPHERE data point as evidence. In the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE SAP goes up 1% during winter from summer. What does it do in the SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE? It should actually show a larger gap and its summer should be higher SAP than winter.



And then there is the obvious. WHETHER it is new gas adding because of "ice melt" and/or warming due to decreasing distance to Sun, Pluto and Mars both prove that warming a planet = increasing SAP.

And there is absolutely no reason to believe that does not apply to Earth. And you cannot come up with one rebuttal despite hours of thinking it over...



So if WARMING increases SAP, and ADDING GAS increases SAP, and Earth SAP is actually going down...

EARTH IS NOT WARMING and NOT EXPERIENCING A NET ICE MELT

PROVEN

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The 60-180 degree portion of the chart, where Mars penetrates the freezing point of Co2.






1. it does on Mars and Pluto. You do not have a planet that refutes it.

2. That's absolutely laughable. Release the gas trapped on Antarctica and Greenland and Earth atmosphere/SAP goes up 3-5 fold, and did during Jurassic. A foot of snow is one inch of water and 11 inches of gas. That's all the specifics needed.

The 60-180 degree portion of the chart, where Mars penetrates the freezing point of Co2.

You're telling me that pressure on Mars is lower when the carbon dioxide is frozen? Wow!
How does this help your claim about Earth?

You do not have a planet that refutes it.

Besides Earth.

Release the gas trapped on Antarctica and Greenland and Earth atmosphere/SAP goes up 3-5 fold

Post your evidence. Real evidence, not what the voices in your head told you.

A foot of snow is one inch of water and 11 inches of gas. That's all the specifics needed.

Because you're a moron.
If a foot of snow caused the SAP to drop a measurable amount, you might have a point.
Of if a foot of ice 10 feet below the surface of a glacier had a measurable amount of air in it.
Dazzle me, find out just how much a foot of glacier ice has in the way of air bubbles.