Please show me where Israel children taught how to stab Palestinians?

I am willing to discuss middle east issues with someone who is civil and actually has a valid point of contention.

You are not one of those. You are a raving angry man who is incapable of addressing or admitting to historical facts and truths. Perhaps you work for one of those fanatical Islamic cells who like to target and murder anyone they do not agree with?
Don't talk to me about being civil, when you won't even give me the common courtesy of addressing the points I made. I bet you didn't even see the video that showed just how "fairly" Palestinian's are treated?

I have specifically addressed what you've said and all you've done in return, is recite rehearsed speeches.
 
Apparently you didn't like my post, so instead of addressing it you went with a personal insult.

Illustrating the point in my third paragraph beautifully, thanks.
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I'm making the point that your post teaches the same hate as anyone else.

AH!!! So you agree! Conflation or not, when you publicize an issue it influences "hate" right? It influences opinions which translate into actions!
NO question you are right!
So who was really helped by these statements?

  • Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost", (Wouldn't the insurgent barbarians find this statement helpful in recruiting?"Hey we have USA on the Run"!!!)
  • U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” (A barbarian says "SEE even their politicians admit USA are cold blooded killers"!
  • Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." Kerry calling our troops TERRORISTS!!!
  • Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
 
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
View attachment 52780

During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".

Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.

"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!

They're being taught to hate by:
  • Israeli tyranny
  • A brutal occupation of their homeland
  • An immoral blockade of their city
  • Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
  • Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
  • Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
  • Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7
Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:
  • They are the "chosen" ones
  • The Palestinian's are sub-human
  • The Palestinian's are savages and animals
  • They Palestinian's have no right to be there
  • This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
  • The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc

That's the short list.




How about links to prove all these from a valid source ?
 
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
View attachment 52780

During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".

Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.

"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!

They're being taught to hate by:
  • Israeli tyranny
  • A brutal occupation of their homeland
  • An immoral blockade of their city
  • Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
  • Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
  • Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
  • Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7
Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:
  • They are the "chosen" ones
  • The Palestinian's are sub-human
  • The Palestinian's are savages and animals
  • They Palestinian's have no right to be there
  • This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
  • The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc

That's the short list.
 
Should Palestinian children be brainwashed to believe that they should thank the Jews for going to Palestine, evicting many of them and holding the rest of them in outdoor prisons?
 
Should Palestinian children be brainwashed to believe that they should thank the Jews for going to Palestine, evicting many of them and holding the rest of them in outdoor prisons?

Actually billions have gone to their crook leaders !
Here is why:

After all they've received over $32 billion in foreign aid including $5 billion from the USA alone!
In addition to the above.... ISRAEL has GIVEN... To the PA........
(1) In September 2012, with the Palestinian Authority (PA) facing severe financial strain due to a shortfall in international donations and significant overspending, Israel advanced the PA 250 million shekels in tax revenues to aid the Palestinian economy.
Similarly, in July 2012, Israel advanced the PA 180 million shekels to ensure that the salaries of PA employees were paid before the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.

(2) Since the signing of the 1993 Oslo accord, real GDP per capita in the West Bank has increased considerably.
From 1998-2011, these numbers grew from about $1,750 to about $2,000 according to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians.
The report also notes that Gaza experienced a considerable rise in real GDP per capita from 2002-2005 before the Hamas takeover.

(3) In order to reduce the level of Palestinian unemployment, Israel has increased the number of permits for Palestinians to work in Israel - by 40% since February 2011.

(4) Despite the constant barrage of rocket attacks emanating from the Gaza Strip, Israel provides most of the electric supply for both the West Bank and Gaza. Approximately half of Gaza’s electricity is supplied directly from Israel by way of the Israel Electric Corporation (IEC). The remaining supply comes mostly from the Gaza Power Plant (GPP), which is funded not by Hamas but by the Palestinian Authority.

Billions of dollars in international aid is sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
Indeed, the PA reportedly spends approximately 40% of its annual budget on Gaza. Thus, much of the billions of dollars in international aid that is provided to the Palestinian Authority is in turn sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

Despite owing the Israel Electric Corporation over 662 million shekels, Israel continues to provide electricity to the PA.
This includes supplying electricity to government buildings such as schools, hospitals, and water pumping stations.

(5) Following a March 2012 meeting of the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (the committee chaired by Norway and co-sponsored by the European Union that serves as the policy coordinating mechanism for development assistance to the Palestinian people), Israel appealed to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to support PA requests for special IMF economic assistance. Israel even attempted to acquire a one billion dollar IMF loan on behalf of the PA, but was turned down because the IMF reportedly did not want to set a precedent of one state taking a loan on behalf of a non-state entity.

(6) In July 2012, Israel’s Minister of Finance, Dr. Yuval Steinitz, and PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, discussed new measures designed to boost the Palestinian economy. These included developing the Gaza Marine gas field which reportedly “could contribute dramatically to Palestinian fiscal sustainability.”

During 2011 and the first half of 2012, Israel closely collaborated with the PA to improve the Palestinian agriculture industry. This included projects to exterminate pests, improve soil quality, and increase international trade of Palestinian agricultural goods.

(7) Despite being governed by Hamas, an international terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction, Israel has established a number of initiatives meant to aid Gaza’s economy. These include provisions to promote the building of essential societal institutions such as schools, hospitals and sanitation centers. Since 2010, these Israeli initiatives have seen Gaza’s real GDP per capita improve considerably.

(8) Israel continues to provide extensive medical care to Palestinians, including those from the Gaza Strip. In 2009 alone, some 10,544 patients and their companions left Gaza for medical treatment inside Israel. Further, Israeli doctors working through the organization Save a Child’s Heart have performed free life-saving heart operations for 2,300 children since 1995, with almost half of these children coming from the Palestinian Territories, Jordan and Iraq.

(9) Recently, many Palestinians have voiced a desire to become citizens of Israel, especially in east Jerusalem. According to Hatem Abdel Kader, the Fatah official in charge of the “Jerusalem Portfolio”, this growing trend is a result of the failure of the PA and Arab and Islamic countries to help the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem. As noted by Khaled Abu Toameh of the Gatestone Institute, Abdel Kader “is admitting that Israel is doing more for these Palestinians than the Palestinian leadership and the entire Arab and Islamic countries.”

(10) The PA receives international aid primarily in the form of loans and grants from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), the United Nations Development Program (UNDP), the United States, and Net Official Development Assistance (ODA), which is an amalgamation of aid packages from the nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) and other international lending institutions such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF).

International aid to Palestinians far exceeds all Marshall Plan aid for post-WWII Europe.
Since 1996, the West Bank has received over 70,000 loans from the UNRWA alone, amounting to over 100 million dollars, and since 1992 Gaza has received over 98,000 UNRWA loans amounting to over 110 million dollars. To provide context, the amount of international aid provided to the Palestinians, taking inflation into account, far exceeds the Marshall Plan aid designated for rebuilding Europe following the Second World War.

(11) According to the Council on Foreign Relations, Hamas receives its funding primarily from private donors from Arab Gulf States, international Islamic charities such as the Holy Land Foundation (which was shut down in the US in 2001 for funding Hamas, a US-designated foreign terrorist organization), and Iran, that donates approximately 30 million dollars annually. As noted above, Hamas also receives direct funding from the PA.

(12) The United Nations Relief and Works Agency’s (UNRWA) sole focus is the Palestinian population. According to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report, U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians, since its inception in 1950 through 2011, the United States has given the agency over $4 billion dollars and has always been UNWRA’s largest donor. Aggregate contributions from the Muslim world during this time makes up about 15% of the total budget. In 2011, UNWRA’s general fund (ie. core program) budget was $568 million, with the U.S. contribution almost $129 million, about 23% of its budget, with the total 2011 U.S. contribution to UNWRA almost $239.5 million. It is important to note that Saudi Arabia is the only Arab nation in the top-10 donors to UNWRA in 2011 with their core budget pledge at approximately $5.3 million and total pledge at $76.8 million.

According to the Jewish Virtual Library, “Initially, the United States contributed $25 million and Israel nearly $3 million. The total Arab pledges amounted to approximately $600,000. For the first 20 years, the United States provided more than two-thirds of the funds, while the Arab states continued to contribute a tiny fraction. Israel has donated more funds to UNRWA than most Arab states. The Saudis did not match Israel's contribution until 1973; Kuwait and Libya, not until 1980. As recently as 1994, Israel gave more to UNRWA than all Arab countries except Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Morocco.” Currently, Israel does not give directly but through their UN dues. The UN pledge to UNRWA was over $24.5 million in 2011, making it the 10th largest donor after Switzerland.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?

YOU are totally forgetting that as much as 40% of the above funds have been siphoned off to the Hamas/PLO and their leaders!
Can you please explain to me why 20 years after Oslo and billions in dollars in foreign aid, the Palestinian Authority (PA) still has not built modern hospitals? Or rather, why do the donor countries pour money down the PA drain without expecting even some face-saving results?”

Good question. Short answer: Swiss bank accounts. In other words, a huge amount of the money has been stolen.
There is nothing more distasteful than rulers of a people–especially a poor people–who complain about their subjects’ suffering at the same time that they profit from it.
Of course, when some foreign observer sees Palestinians in poor conditions they blame Israel, thus furthering the cause of the same leaders who, -by their intransigent policies, ensure that the situation continues.

The personal wealth of PA “president” Mahmoud Abbas is estimated at $100 million.
Add onto that millions of dollars for a large number of PA and Fatah senior officials and you get the idea.

I have seen the villas of the PLO leaders in Tunis and the PA leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I have followed in detail the saga not only of
Yasir Arafat’s personal stash but also how he used corruption to sustain his political control.
And his heirs mostly continue to run the Palestinian movement.

  1. The team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the US and the Cayman Islands.
    Yasser Arafat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaYasser_Arafat
    Wikipedia
It is easy to forget that the PA has existed for 18 years and governed virtually every Palestinian there starting about 16 years ago. That’s a long time. And while Israel can be accused of harassment and putting up various roadblocks, its part in this problem has been limited. Indeed, Israeli action that have hurt the PA’s economy have arisen in direct response to episodes of terrorism, violent confrontation, and all-out wars started by the PA.

PA leaders have received more aid money per person than anyone else in history and yet the results have been remarkably unimpressive. The leaders have looted the money and used it as political pay-offs to buy patronage. By patronage I mean paying off the proportionately huge security forces that guard the PA and provide jobs for its supporters and benefits for political supporters.

Note that in recent years the aid money has gone mostly to the West Bank only, though some of it is used to pay PA employees in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to keep them loyal even if these people just stay at home. In other words, the level of aid has stayed the same but the number of people being supported generally has been cut in half.

Yet the PA cannot provide jobs for most of its people or build good institutions. Luxury apartments are going up but not hospitals, schools, and infrastructure improvements. Even though the PA economy is doing well–how could it not do so given the tidal wave of aid?–the regime cannot even enforce its own law forbidding Palestinians from working on Jewish settlements on the West Bank. Thousands do.
http://www.rubincenter.org/2012/06/...ollars-given-to-the-palestinian-authority-go/

I really don't understand why thee obvious crooks Arafat, Abbas are still being dealt with as "leaders" when it is shown they have skimmed Billions for their own use!
 
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
View attachment 52780

During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".

Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.

"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!

They're being taught to hate by:
  • Israeli tyranny
  • A brutal occupation of their homeland
  • An immoral blockade of their city
  • Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
  • Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
  • Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
  • Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7
Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:
  • They are the "chosen" ones
  • The Palestinian's are sub-human
  • The Palestinian's are savages and animals
  • They Palestinian's have no right to be there
  • This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
  • The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc

That's the short list.


I watched the video and everything she said was right!
 
AH!!! So you agree! Conflation or not, when you publicize an issue it influences "hate" right? It influences opinions which translate into actions!
NO question you are right!
So who was really helped by these statements?

  • Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost", (Wouldn't the insurgent barbarians find this statement helpful in recruiting?"Hey we have USA on the Run"!!!)
  • U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” (A barbarian says "SEE even their politicians admit USA are cold blooded killers"!
  • Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." Kerry calling our troops TERRORISTS!!!
  • Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Everyone benefits when you speak the truth, like those guys did.
 
AH!!! So you agree! Conflation or not, when you publicize an issue it influences "hate" right? It influences opinions which translate into actions!
NO question you are right!
So who was really helped by these statements?

  • Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost", (Wouldn't the insurgent barbarians find this statement helpful in recruiting?"Hey we have USA on the Run"!!!)
  • U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” (A barbarian says "SEE even their politicians admit USA are cold blooded killers"!
  • Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." Kerry calling our troops TERRORISTS!!!
  • Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Everyone benefits when you speak the truth, like those guys did.

So the benefit to our troops was death. Benefit to the terrorists was justification in killing more Americans!
And of course ALL American troops are cold blooded killers Right? ALL American Troops are terrorists ALL the time!
Every single American soldier is a Nazi and America DESERVED to lose the war as Reid said the War is lost!
These are the "truths" you say these cheerleaders for the people that wanted to kill all Americans said.

You know I don't know if you will understand this analogy.
Let's say you were a player on a football team. You are the visiting team.
Your cheerleaders are standing on the opponent's side of the field CHEERING the opponents. Booing your team! Remember these are the people that
are YOUR team's cheerleaders. They are cheering for the other team and booing you and your team.

That's exactly how Americans and American troops see these statements:
  • Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost", (Wouldn't the insurgent barbarians find this statement helpful in recruiting?"Hey we have USA on the Run"!!!)
  • U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” (A barbarian says "SEE even their politicians admit USA are cold blooded killers"!
  • Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." Kerry calling our troops TERRORISTS!!!
  • Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
The above "Cheerleaders" speaking from the home team's field were CHEERING on the other team while claiming their team were the bad guys!

Do you understand? If you don't there is NO hope for you and please leave the country as you obviously hate America and Americans!
 
AH!!! So you agree! Conflation or not, when you publicize an issue it influences "hate" right? It influences opinions which translate into actions!
NO question you are right!
So who was really helped by these statements?

  • Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost", (Wouldn't the insurgent barbarians find this statement helpful in recruiting?"Hey we have USA on the Run"!!!)
  • U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” (A barbarian says "SEE even their politicians admit USA are cold blooded killers"!
  • Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." Kerry calling our troops TERRORISTS!!!
  • Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Everyone benefits when you speak the truth, like those guys did.

By the way did you know Sam Kinison was a Pentecostal Preacher before he became a comedian?
 
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
View attachment 52780

During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".

Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.

"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!

They're being taught to hate by:
  • Israeli tyranny
  • A brutal occupation of their homeland
  • An immoral blockade of their city
  • Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
  • Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
  • Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
  • Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7
Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:
  • They are the "chosen" ones
  • The Palestinian's are sub-human
  • The Palestinian's are savages and animals
  • They Palestinian's have no right to be there
  • This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
  • The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc

That's the short list.


I watched the video and everything she said was right!



Sorry, not on board here. But far, far too much to take issue with here so I will have to leave everyone to think what they want.

Yes, I have a lot of sympathy for this Israeli professor who lost her young daughter to a suicide bomber, but that does not mean I have to agree with her points of view or her reasons. I wish she would debate someone and not just explain things to us as she sees it. Yes, she sees Israel preparing their own kind to be soldiers and have a slanted favoritism towards the Jewish plight, fine. What country at war for decades would not be interested in having their own people patriotic for this all important cause? In other words, what in the world does this professor expect from a nation that has been hated, attacked, lied about and threatened for 80 years?

I am very disappointed by not what she said are in the Israeli text books, but how she made Israel look like some evil monster with no cause for its military and security measures.

I watched more than 20 minutes of that 28 minute video above. I do not ask anyone to spend even 2 minutes on the video I supply here in contrast. But it is Michael Medved who speaks of the myths, mistakes and facts about this century long conflict. He, IMO, is much, much more fair to the most critical truths. I stand with Israel and all the horrors the world heaps upon them. Any nation under siege and engaged in war is surely going to be involved in unfair and horrible practices for the sake of preservation and triumph.

 
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Should Palestinian children be brainwashed to believe that they should thank the Jews for going to Palestine, evicting many of them and holding the rest of them in outdoor prisons?

Actually billions have gone to their crook leaders !
Here is why:

After all they've received over $32 billion in foreign aid including $5 billion from the USA alone!
In addition to the above.... ISRAEL has GIVEN... To the PA........
(1) In September 2012, with the Palestinian Authority (PA) facing severe financial strain due to a shortfall in international donations and significant overspending, Israel advanced the PA 250 million shekels in tax revenues to aid the Palestinian economy.
Similarly, in July 2012, Israel advanced the PA 180 million shekels to ensure that the salaries of PA employees were paid before the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.

(2) Since the signing of the 1993 Oslo accord, real GDP per capita in the West Bank has increased considerably.
From 1998-2011, these numbers grew from about $1,750 to about $2,000 according to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians.
The report also notes that Gaza experienced a considerable rise in real GDP per capita from 2002-2005 before the Hamas takeover.

(3) In order to reduce the level of Palestinian unemployment, Israel has increased the number of permits for Palestinians to work in Israel - by 40% since February 2011.

(4) Despite the constant barrage of rocket attacks emanating from the Gaza Strip, Israel provides most of the electric supply for both the West Bank and Gaza. Approximately half of Gaza’s electricity is supplied directly from Israel by way of the Israel Electric Corporation (IEC). The remaining supply comes mostly from the Gaza Power Plant (GPP), which is funded not by Hamas but by the Palestinian Authority.

Billions of dollars in international aid is sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
Indeed, the PA reportedly spends approximately 40% of its annual budget on Gaza. Thus, much of the billions of dollars in international aid that is provided to the Palestinian Authority is in turn sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

Despite owing the Israel Electric Corporation over 662 million shekels, Israel continues to provide electricity to the PA.
This includes supplying electricity to government buildings such as schools, hospitals, and water pumping stations.

(5) Following a March 2012 meeting of the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (the committee chaired by Norway and co-sponsored by the European Union that serves as the policy coordinating mechanism for development assistance to the Palestinian people), Israel appealed to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to support PA requests for special IMF economic assistance. Israel even attempted to acquire a one billion dollar IMF loan on behalf of the PA, but was turned down because the IMF reportedly did not want to set a precedent of one state taking a loan on behalf of a non-state entity.

(6) In July 2012, Israel’s Minister of Finance, Dr. Yuval Steinitz, and PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, discussed new measures designed to boost the Palestinian economy. These included developing the Gaza Marine gas field which reportedly “could contribute dramatically to Palestinian fiscal sustainability.”

During 2011 and the first half of 2012, Israel closely collaborated with the PA to improve the Palestinian agriculture industry. This included projects to exterminate pests, improve soil quality, and increase international trade of Palestinian agricultural goods.

(7) Despite being governed by Hamas, an international terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction, Israel has established a number of initiatives meant to aid Gaza’s economy. These include provisions to promote the building of essential societal institutions such as schools, hospitals and sanitation centers. Since 2010, these Israeli initiatives have seen Gaza’s real GDP per capita improve considerably.

(8) Israel continues to provide extensive medical care to Palestinians, including those from the Gaza Strip. In 2009 alone, some 10,544 patients and their companions left Gaza for medical treatment inside Israel. Further, Israeli doctors working through the organization Save a Child’s Heart have performed free life-saving heart operations for 2,300 children since 1995, with almost half of these children coming from the Palestinian Territories, Jordan and Iraq.

(9) Recently, many Palestinians have voiced a desire to become citizens of Israel, especially in east Jerusalem. According to Hatem Abdel Kader, the Fatah official in charge of the “Jerusalem Portfolio”, this growing trend is a result of the failure of the PA and Arab and Islamic countries to help the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem. As noted by Khaled Abu Toameh of the Gatestone Institute, Abdel Kader “is admitting that Israel is doing more for these Palestinians than the Palestinian leadership and the entire Arab and Islamic countries.”

(10) The PA receives international aid primarily in the form of loans and grants from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), the United Nations Development Program (UNDP), the United States, and Net Official Development Assistance (ODA), which is an amalgamation of aid packages from the nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) and other international lending institutions such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF).

International aid to Palestinians far exceeds all Marshall Plan aid for post-WWII Europe.
Since 1996, the West Bank has received over 70,000 loans from the UNRWA alone, amounting to over 100 million dollars, and since 1992 Gaza has received over 98,000 UNRWA loans amounting to over 110 million dollars. To provide context, the amount of international aid provided to the Palestinians, taking inflation into account, far exceeds the Marshall Plan aid designated for rebuilding Europe following the Second World War.

(11) According to the Council on Foreign Relations, Hamas receives its funding primarily from private donors from Arab Gulf States, international Islamic charities such as the Holy Land Foundation (which was shut down in the US in 2001 for funding Hamas, a US-designated foreign terrorist organization), and Iran, that donates approximately 30 million dollars annually. As noted above, Hamas also receives direct funding from the PA.

(12) The United Nations Relief and Works Agency’s (UNRWA) sole focus is the Palestinian population. According to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report, U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians, since its inception in 1950 through 2011, the United States has given the agency over $4 billion dollars and has always been UNWRA’s largest donor. Aggregate contributions from the Muslim world during this time makes up about 15% of the total budget. In 2011, UNWRA’s general fund (ie. core program) budget was $568 million, with the U.S. contribution almost $129 million, about 23% of its budget, with the total 2011 U.S. contribution to UNWRA almost $239.5 million. It is important to note that Saudi Arabia is the only Arab nation in the top-10 donors to UNWRA in 2011 with their core budget pledge at approximately $5.3 million and total pledge at $76.8 million.

According to the Jewish Virtual Library, “Initially, the United States contributed $25 million and Israel nearly $3 million. The total Arab pledges amounted to approximately $600,000. For the first 20 years, the United States provided more than two-thirds of the funds, while the Arab states continued to contribute a tiny fraction. Israel has donated more funds to UNRWA than most Arab states. The Saudis did not match Israel's contribution until 1973; Kuwait and Libya, not until 1980. As recently as 1994, Israel gave more to UNRWA than all Arab countries except Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Morocco.” Currently, Israel does not give directly but through their UN dues. The UN pledge to UNRWA was over $24.5 million in 2011, making it the 10th largest donor after Switzerland.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?

YOU are totally forgetting that as much as 40% of the above funds have been siphoned off to the Hamas/PLO and their leaders!
Can you please explain to me why 20 years after Oslo and billions in dollars in foreign aid, the Palestinian Authority (PA) still has not built modern hospitals? Or rather, why do the donor countries pour money down the PA drain without expecting even some face-saving results?”

Good question. Short answer: Swiss bank accounts. In other words, a huge amount of the money has been stolen.
There is nothing more distasteful than rulers of a people–especially a poor people–who complain about their subjects’ suffering at the same time that they profit from it.
Of course, when some foreign observer sees Palestinians in poor conditions they blame Israel, thus furthering the cause of the same leaders who, -by their intransigent policies, ensure that the situation continues.

The personal wealth of PA “president” Mahmoud Abbas is estimated at $100 million.
Add onto that millions of dollars for a large number of PA and Fatah senior officials and you get the idea.

I have seen the villas of the PLO leaders in Tunis and the PA leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I have followed in detail the saga not only of
Yasir Arafat’s personal stash but also how he used corruption to sustain his political control.
And his heirs mostly continue to run the Palestinian movement.

  1. The team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the US and the Cayman Islands.
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It is easy to forget that the PA has existed for 18 years and governed virtually every Palestinian there starting about 16 years ago. That’s a long time. And while Israel can be accused of harassment and putting up various roadblocks, its part in this problem has been limited. Indeed, Israeli action that have hurt the PA’s economy have arisen in direct response to episodes of terrorism, violent confrontation, and all-out wars started by the PA.

PA leaders have received more aid money per person than anyone else in history and yet the results have been remarkably unimpressive. The leaders have looted the money and used it as political pay-offs to buy patronage. By patronage I mean paying off the proportionately huge security forces that guard the PA and provide jobs for its supporters and benefits for political supporters.

Note that in recent years the aid money has gone mostly to the West Bank only, though some of it is used to pay PA employees in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to keep them loyal even if these people just stay at home. In other words, the level of aid has stayed the same but the number of people being supported generally has been cut in half.

Yet the PA cannot provide jobs for most of its people or build good institutions. Luxury apartments are going up but not hospitals, schools, and infrastructure improvements. Even though the PA economy is doing well–how could it not do so given the tidal wave of aid?–the regime cannot even enforce its own law forbidding Palestinians from working on Jewish settlements on the West Bank. Thousands do.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?

I really don't understand why thee obvious crooks Arafat, Abbas are still being dealt with as "leaders" when it is shown they have skimmed Billions for their own use!

So, from all the propaganda you posted, you believe that the Palestinians should accept Jew rule and be happy with it.
 
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
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During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".

Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.

"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!

They're being taught to hate by:
  • Israeli tyranny
  • A brutal occupation of their homeland
  • An immoral blockade of their city
  • Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
  • Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
  • Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
  • Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7
Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:
  • They are the "chosen" ones
  • The Palestinian's are sub-human
  • The Palestinian's are savages and animals
  • They Palestinian's have no right to be there
  • This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
  • The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc

That's the short list.


I watched the video and everything she said was right!



Sorry, not on board here. But far, far too much to take issue with here so I will have to leave everyone to think what they want.

Yes, I have a lot of sympathy for this Israeli professor who lost her young daughter to a suicide bomber, but that does not mean I have to agree with her points of view or her reasons. I wish she would debate someone and not just explain things to us as she sees it. Yes, she sees Israel preparing their own kind to be soldiers and have a slanted favoritism towards the Jewish plight, fine. What country at war for decades would not be interested in having their own people patriotic for this all important cause? In other words, what in the world does this professor expect from a nation that has been hated, attacked, lied about and threatened for 80 years?

I am very disappointed by not what she said are in the Israeli text books, but how she made Israel look like some evil monster with no cause for its military and security measures.

I watched more than 20 minutes of that 28 minute video above. I do not ask anyone to spend even 2 minutes on the video I supply here in contrast. But it is Michael Medved who speaks of the myths, mistakes and facts about this century long conflict. He, IMO, is much, much more fair to the most critical truths. I stand with Israel and all the horrors the world heaps upon them. Any nation under siege and engaged in war is surely going to be involved in unfair and horrible practices for the sake of preservation and triumph.



The Jews went to Palestine from Europe and evicted and/or put under their control the people whose ancestors had been living in Palestine for more than 2,000 years. It is the Palestinians that have been under siege.

That's just the basic fact of the matter.
 
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
View attachment 52780

During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".

Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.

"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!

They're being taught to hate by:
  • Israeli tyranny
  • A brutal occupation of their homeland
  • An immoral blockade of their city
  • Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
  • Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
  • Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
  • Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7
Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:
  • They are the "chosen" ones
  • The Palestinian's are sub-human
  • The Palestinian's are savages and animals
  • They Palestinian's have no right to be there
  • This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
  • The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc

That's the short list.


I watched the video and everything she said was right!



Sorry, not on board here. But far, far too much to take issue with here so I will have to leave everyone to think what they want.

Yes, I have a lot of sympathy for this Israeli professor who lost her young daughter to a suicide bomber, but that does not mean I have to agree with her points of view or her reasons. I wish she would debate someone and not just explain things to us as she sees it. Yes, she sees Israel preparing their own kind to be soldiers and have a slanted favoritism towards the Jewish plight, fine. What country at war for decades would not be interested in having their own people patriotic for this all important cause? In other words, what in the world does this professor expect from a nation that has been hated, attacked, lied about and threatened for 80 years?

I am very disappointed by not what she said are in the Israeli text books, but how she made Israel look like some evil monster with no cause for its military and security measures.

I watched more than 20 minutes of that 28 minute video above. I do not ask anyone to spend even 2 minutes on the video I supply here in contrast. But it is Michael Medved who speaks of the myths, mistakes and facts about this century long conflict. He, IMO, is much, much more fair to the most critical truths. I stand with Israel and all the horrors the world heaps upon them. Any nation under siege and engaged in war is surely going to be involved in unfair and horrible practices for the sake of preservation and triumph.



The Jews went to Palestine from Europe and evicted and/or put under their control the people whose ancestors had been living in Palestine for more than 2,000 years. It is the Palestinians that have been under siege.

That's just the basic fact of the matter.


Your claims are simply wrong and false. You spin and you believe.

The Jews purchased land from the Ottoman Turks and absentee wealthy Arab landlords. Then came in hordes of Arabs which make up 80% of what you would call "indigenous Palestinians." They did not purchase they just moved in from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, et al. and later referred to themselves as Palestinians. And the only reason they moved in was because the Jews reclaimed and developed that worthless land and brought in industry and farming and jobs for the needy Arabs. Then after the inevitable Arab envy and jealousy set in, then they started resenting those who came legally and gave them employment. Then there were a series of white papers and treaties to help settle the disputes, all of which the Jews agreed to, none of which the Arabs would.

Then came the flight of the British and the Jews claiming "their portion" as the state of Israel, all the while willing to allow Arabs or Palestinians to live within their borders. But it was the grand muftis and Muslim clerics who by and large urged or commanded the Arabs to leave the region until all these 5 neighboring Arab nations destroyed the Jews then they could move back. But it did not turn out that way in 1948 did it? Somehow tiny Israel fought them all off. And still Israel was willing to allow those who left to come back if they and their Arab neighbors would agree to some peace. But of course they would not. And Israel has suffered ever since. And the know-it-alls in the West and their odious liberal professors claim the high moral ground vilifying the Jews with the most disingenuous means.
 
Sorry, not on board here. But far, far too much to take issue with here so I will have to leave everyone to think what they want.

Yes, I have a lot of sympathy for this Israeli professor who lost her young daughter to a suicide bomber, but that does not mean I have to agree with her points of view or her reasons. I wish she would debate someone and not just explain things to us as she sees it. Yes, she sees Israel preparing their own kind to be soldiers and have a slanted favoritism towards the Jewish plight, fine. What country at war for decades would not be interested in having their own people patriotic for this all important cause? In other words, what in the world does this professor expect from a nation that has been hated, attacked, lied about and threatened for 80 years?

I am very disappointed by not what she said are in the Israeli text books, but how she made Israel look like some evil monster with no cause for its military and security measures.

I watched more than 20 minutes of that 28 minute video above. I do not ask anyone to spend even 2 minutes on the video I supply here in contrast. But it is Michael Medved who speaks of the myths, mistakes and facts about this century long conflict. He, IMO, is much, much more fair to the most critical truths. I stand with Israel and all the horrors the world heaps upon them. Any nation under siege and engaged in war is surely going to be involved in unfair and horrible practices for the sake of preservation and triumph.

You wouldn't watch my video, yet you ask people to watch yours?

What a hypocrite!
 
Your claims are simply wrong and false. You spin and you believe.

The Jews purchased land from the Ottoman Turks and absentee wealthy Arab landlords. Then came in hordes of Arabs which make up 80% of what you would call "indigenous Palestinians." They did not purchase they just moved in from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, et al. and later referred to themselves as Palestinians. And the only reason they moved in was because the Jews reclaimed and developed that worthless land and brought in industry and farming and jobs for the needy Arabs. Then after the inevitable Arab envy and jealousy set in, then they started resenting those who came legally and gave them employment. Then there were a series of white papers and treaties to help settle the disputes, all of which the Jews agreed to, none of which the Arabs would.

Then came the flight of the British and the Jews claiming "their portion" as the state of Israel, all the while willing to allow Arabs or Palestinians to live within their borders. But it was the grand muftis and Muslim clerics who by and large urged or commanded the Arabs to leave the region until all these 5 neighboring Arab nations destroyed the Jews then they could move back. But it did not turn out that way in 1948 did it? Somehow tiny Israel fought them all off. And still Israel was willing to allow those who left to come back if they and their Arab neighbors would agree to some peace. But of course they would not. And Israel has suffered ever since. And the know-it-alls in the West and their odious liberal professors claim the high moral ground vilifying the Jews with the most disingenuous means.
That is total bullshit!

Even Theodore Hertzl said you'd have to remove the natives when Zionists arrived. You're a fuckin' liar!

As for "leaving the region", that is one of the biggest bullshit claims I've heard regarding this conflict. No one, I repeat, no one, gets up and leaves a home they've been living in for generations, just because someone they never met shows up one day and ASKS' THEM TO!

Shove those Israeli talking points up your ass!

BTW, the IDF conducted 656 un-provoked attacks on Gaza, since the ceasefire. You have a sick and evil society.
 
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QUOTE]You wouldn't watch my video, yet you ask people to watch yours?

What a hypocrite!

No, but I did watch almost all of a 28 minute video critical of Israel from someone I thought I might be able to have a civil discourse with. For the record, I said I do not expect anyone to watch two minutes of the one I linked. I only put it out there as a counter-reference that for every video they can produce that alleges history, we can do the same.

You, I don't really see much of an upside spending time listening to your frenzied vulgar outbursts. By the way, you are wrong again. The vast majority of Arabs left Israel in 1948 just before the Arab invasion on their own accord at the bequest of their Islamic clerics' overtures with the promise they can soon return after the seven despotic Arab armies destroyed the Jews. But don't let that alter your driven path.
 
Your claims are simply wrong and false. You spin and you believe.

The Jews purchased land from the Ottoman Turks and absentee wealthy Arab landlords. Then came in hordes of Arabs which make up 80% of what you would call "indigenous Palestinians." They did not purchase they just moved in from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, et al. and later referred to themselves as Palestinians. And the only reason they moved in was because the Jews reclaimed and developed that worthless land and brought in industry and farming and jobs for the needy Arabs. Then after the inevitable Arab envy and jealousy set in, then they started resenting those who came legally and gave them employment. Then there were a series of white papers and treaties to help settle the disputes, all of which the Jews agreed to, none of which the Arabs would.

Then came the flight of the British and the Jews claiming "their portion" as the state of Israel, all the while willing to allow Arabs or Palestinians to live within their borders. But it was the grand muftis and Muslim clerics who by and large urged or commanded the Arabs to leave the region until all these 5 neighboring Arab nations destroyed the Jews then they could move back. But it did not turn out that way in 1948 did it? Somehow tiny Israel fought them all off. And still Israel was willing to allow those who left to come back if they and their Arab neighbors would agree to some peace. But of course they would not. And Israel has suffered ever since. And the know-it-alls in the West and their odious liberal professors claim the high moral ground vilifying the Jews with the most disingenuous means.
That is total bullshit!

Even Theodore Hertzl said you'd have to remove the natives when Zionists arrived. You're a fuckin' liar!

As for "leaving the region", that is one of the biggest bullshit claims I've heard regarding this conflict. No one, I repeat, no one, gets up and leaves a home they've been living in for generations, just because someone they never met shows up one day and ASKS' THEM TO!

Shove those Israeli talking points up your ass!

BTW, the IDF conducted 656 un-provoked attacks on Gaza, since the ceasefire. You have a sick and evil society.

Do you have PROOF of this statement: "the IDF conducted 656 un-provoked attacks on Gaza, since the ceasefire."
I did a google search for "IDF conducted 656 un-provoked attacks on Gaza, since the ceasefire" nothing turned up.
So where is your proof of the 656 attacks???
Seems rather definitive and you should be able to back up your at this time totally unsubstantiated "take you at your word" hahahaha!!
 
You argument appears to be completely one sided since there has been enough barbarism and senseless violence on BOTH sides to fill a line of boxcars from here to Mars, it seems to me the evidence clearly points to the fact that these two peoples simply will not (and thus cannot) live together in peace and mutual cooperation.
They did before the Zionists showed up.

Therefore the only logical solution is to separate them and since the Israelis are in control of Israel (they won) the only way to resolve the violence is for the Palestinians to find a new "homeland" which means a two state solution (preferably two states that do NOT share any borders). Now if the rest of the Arab States along with other nations that are interested in fostering an end to this brutality would pull their collective heads out of there rears they could actually play a useful role in figuring out how to carve out some turf for these few million people that will satisfy them.
The Palestinian's are not going anywhere.

For you to say they have to move, is like saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland.

The only option the Israeli's have, is to comply with international law and get the **** off land that isn't theirs! After 50 years, there isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Catch the ******* clue!





Is that why there is a history of muslim atrocities against the Jews and Christians throughout their presence in the area. attacks in Safed, Hebron, Jerusalem etc. prior to the birth of Zionism.

Neither are the Jews, but very soon the world will pay less attention to Palestine as it fights of its own islamonazi invasion and finds that the Jews are right. Already muslims in the UK are demanding they be given land because they are the indigenous that have lived there since the stone age. How soon before they claim they own the USA and have lived there for 2,000 years ?

Why the same old comparison that does not compare like for like. It is like you saying it is ok for the Palestinians to mass murder Israeli children because they are living in Israel.


How about a link to this fantasy international law then that only you know about. As for the rest Israel does not claim the land as theirs, they claim it is occupied for purely defensive grounds. It is morons like you that make the false claim because you are compelled to hate the Jews by reason of your religion.
 
Your claims are simply wrong and false. You spin and you believe.

The Jews purchased land from the Ottoman Turks and absentee wealthy Arab landlords. Then came in hordes of Arabs which make up 80% of what you would call "indigenous Palestinians." They did not purchase they just moved in from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, et al. and later referred to themselves as Palestinians. And the only reason they moved in was because the Jews reclaimed and developed that worthless land and brought in industry and farming and jobs for the needy Arabs. Then after the inevitable Arab envy and jealousy set in, then they started resenting those who came legally and gave them employment. Then there were a series of white papers and treaties to help settle the disputes, all of which the Jews agreed to, none of which the Arabs would.

Then came the flight of the British and the Jews claiming "their portion" as the state of Israel, all the while willing to allow Arabs or Palestinians to live within their borders. But it was the grand muftis and Muslim clerics who by and large urged or commanded the Arabs to leave the region until all these 5 neighboring Arab nations destroyed the Jews then they could move back. But it did not turn out that way in 1948 did it? Somehow tiny Israel fought them all off. And still Israel was willing to allow those who left to come back if they and their Arab neighbors would agree to some peace. But of course they would not. And Israel has suffered ever since. And the know-it-alls in the West and their odious liberal professors claim the high moral ground vilifying the Jews with the most disingenuous means.
That is total bullshit!

Even Theodore Hertzl said you'd have to remove the natives when Zionists arrived. You're a fuckin' liar!

As for "leaving the region", that is one of the biggest bullshit claims I've heard regarding this conflict. No one, I repeat, no one, gets up and leaves a home they've been living in for generations, just because someone they never met shows up one day and ASKS' THEM TO!

Shove those Israeli talking points up your ass!

BTW, the IDF conducted 656 un-provoked attacks on Gaza, since the ceasefire. You have a sick and evil society.

Do you have PROOF of this statement: "the IDF conducted 656 un-provoked attacks on Gaza, since the ceasefire."
I did a google search for "IDF conducted 656 un-provoked attacks on Gaza, since the ceasefire" nothing turned up.
So where is your proof of the 656 attacks???
Seems rather definitive and you should be able to back up your at this time totally unsubstantiated "take you at your word" hahahaha!!





He counts the west bank as gaza, and then Israel proper as gaza and finally he counts the Knesset meetings as unprovoked attacks on gaza. he tries this same trick every week and is shown to be lying when the list is actually individual shots fired in response to rocket attacks or arrests in the west bank and Jerusalem for crimes done by Palestinian terrorists
 

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