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[JoeB131]

I'll tell you in detail what is going to happen to Israel.

first, at some point, they are going to have the Right to Return. Palestinians will move back to their homes.

Then they will be the majority. The Zionists might be able to stave off being a minority by doing a Two-State Solution, but that shit didn't work for South Africa with the "homeland" and it probably won't work here.

Eventually, Americans will get sick and tired of sending their boys off to die in the Middle East for nothing. AIPAC is horrified no one is returning their phone calls at the White House or Pentagon.

Pretty soon, a lot of younger Israelis are going to figure out no one is going to blow them up in Europe or America, and try to get in there.

Or maybe Iran will get a nuke and blow them off hte map. THat works, too.

 

[toastman]

I can also make up projections .. Means nothing. No one can predict the future.

But Israels future looks bright for anyone who's mind isn't clouded with such hate. Specially with their gold mine of natural gas.
66 years ago people said Israel will be destroyed. In 66 years from now, they will be saying the same thing.
Tell us again Joe in detail what you think will happen to Israel?

in 66 years, Israel will be gone or it will be an enclave around Tel Aviv.

When 40% of Israelis say they would immigrate if they could, that's not a good sign.

Ya, sure Joe .

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

It must hurt you to know that Israel just celebrated another birthday.

 

[toastman]

I'll tell you in detail what is going to happen to Israel.

first, at some point, they are going to have the Right to Return. Palestinians will move back to their homes.

Then they will be the majority. The Zionists might be able to stave off being a minority by doing a Two-State Solution, but that shit didn't work for South Africa with the "homeland" and it probably won't work here.

Eventually, Americans will get sick and tired of sending their boys off to die in the Middle East for nothing. AIPAC is horrified no one is returning their phone calls at the White House or Pentagon.

Pretty soon, a lot of younger Israelis are going to figure out no one is going to blow them up in Europe or America, and try to get in there.

Or maybe Iran will get a nuke and blow them off hte map. THat works, too.

Right of return will never happen. What makes you think Israel will all of a sudden let that happen?? They know that it would be demographic suicide.

America still supports Israel and AIPAC is still around . There is nothing you can say to prove that will change.


The last comment of your post shows your true intention Joe. You're a sick and disgusting Nazi to say 'that works' . Only a rotten human being would say that.
How miserable do you have to be to wish that on a country?

Either way, all your projections are garbage. Try again.

 

[Beelzebub]

Nope, I was referring to Joe's post.

And what false translation of Memri are you talking about?? Can you share the video?

No. I don't peddle Memri falsities.

You made a claim about a false translation made by MEMRI.
All I asked was for you to back it up.

I'm tempted to say, 'stop whining Phoney'.

But I'm curious.
What claim did I make?

 

[toastman]

No. I don't peddle Memri falsities.

You made a claim about a false translation made by MEMRI.
All I asked was for you to back it up.

I'm tempted to say, 'stop whining Phoney'.

But I'm curious.
What claim did I make?

The first claim you made was that 'Pro Israelis are keen on genocide' in response to one of my posts.
I asked you where in any of my posts did you get that from. I got no answer.

Then you said 'Israel wipe out. This must be ANOTHER MEMRI false translation.
This implies you have come across a MEMRI false translation.

I asked you to show me which video you are talking about.

So far, all I'm getting from you are excuses .

But then Weezelbub, I'm used to this from the anti Zionist crowd

 

[aris2chat]

Nope, I was referring to Joe's post.

And what false translation of Memri are you talking about?? Can you share the video?

No. I don't peddle Memri falsities.

You made a claim about a false translation made by MEMRI.
All I asked was for you to back it up.

you're joking. Memri is very accurate in translation. Maybe they make a mistake one of the many languages they translate into, but I have not found a glaring substantial mistake. Perhaps a better term could have been used but the content is accurate.
If you find a mistake or a better translation, you can tell them and they will review and alter the word or phrase.
If there are "falsities", I'd be surprised.

 

[Beelzebub]

Its FAMOUS for them.

 

[toastman]

Its FAMOUS for them.

That's a lie. Unless you have some proof??
Speaking of which, you STILL haven't backed up your two claims.

So Are we in agreement that you were just making shit up?

 

[Beelzebub]

You made a claim about a false translation made by MEMRI.
All I asked was for you to back it up.

I'm tempted to say, 'stop whining Phoney'.

But I'm curious.
What claim did I make?

The first claim you made was that 'Pro Israelis are keen on genocide' in response to one of my posts.
I asked you where in any of my posts did you get that from. I got no answer.

Then you said 'Israel wipe out. This must be ANOTHER MEMRI false translation.
This implies you have come across a MEMRI false translation.

I asked you to show me which video you are talking about.

So far, all I'm getting from you are excuses .

But then Weezelbub, I'm used to this from the anti Zionist crowd

I took your "where " question as I would someone who asks where their glasses are, when they are on their head. In the quote of you, right above my comment, is the answer.

If you are not aware of the quite famous mistranslation of Ahamadinnerjackets comment that Israel disappear from the pages of history, to read as "Wiped off the map" then you really should feel a little embarrassed.

I am sure you can still find many a US media site that refuses to stop using the more aggressive translation, but that is the US media for you.

Does this help?

 

[Dot Com]

Fascinating. Yeah, injustice is injustice no matter where its being perpetrated. That includes MURICA.

 

[Beelzebub]

Its FAMOUS for them.

That's a lie. Unless you have some proof??
Speaking of which, you STILL haven't backed up your two claims.

So Are we in agreement that you were just making shit up?

Ah "proof"!

As half of America still insist that Dinosaurs never roamed the earth because it conflicts with their deepest held beliefs, what would you consider to be proof?

Have this, for starters. And you don't have to agree to acknowledge that Memri's objectivity is in question.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/12/worlddispatch.brianwhitaker

 

[toastman]

I'm tempted to say, 'stop whining Phoney'.

But I'm curious.
What claim did I make?

The first claim you made was that 'Pro Israelis are keen on genocide' in response to one of my posts.
I asked you where in any of my posts did you get that from. I got no answer.

Then you said 'Israel wipe out. This must be ANOTHER MEMRI false translation.
This implies you have come across a MEMRI false translation.

I asked you to show me which video you are talking about.

So far, all I'm getting from you are excuses .

But then Weezelbub, I'm used to this from the anti Zionist crowd

I took your "where " question as I would someone who asks where their glasses are, when they are on their head. In the quote of you, right above my comment, is the answer.

If you are not aware of the quite famous mistranslation of Ahamadinnerjackets comment that Israel disappear from the pages of history, to read as "Wiped off the map" then you really should feel a little embarrassed.

I am sure you can still find many a US media site that refuses to stop using the more aggressive translation, but that is the US media for you.

Does this help?

No, I don't see an answer to my question.

But I am familiar with the Ahmedinejad quote. However I never saw it translated on MEMRI . I saw some other videos with the same translation.

 

[toastman]

Its FAMOUS for them.

That's a lie. Unless you have some proof??
Speaking of which, you STILL haven't backed up your two claims.

So Are we in agreement that you were just making shit up?

Ah "proof"!

As half of America still insist that Dinosaurs never roamed the earth because it conflicts with their deepest held beliefs, what would you consider to be proof?

Have this, for starters. And you don't have to agree to acknowledge that Memri's objectivity is in question.

Selective Memri | World news | theguardian.com

I read that article, or a very similar one before. They ate claiming MEMRI is selective.

All MEMRI does is show us clips of televisions shows, usually news or debating shows from the Arab World with English subtitles in the bottom.

 

[aris2chat]

No. I don't peddle Memri falsities.

You made a claim about a false translation made by MEMRI.
All I asked was for you to back it up.

I'm tempted to say, 'stop whining Phoney'.

But I'm curious.
What claim did I make?

you do realize you were responding to Toast and not Phoen?

 

[Hossfly]

Or Wipe Israel out, which is what they are going to do, sooner or later.

Hey, guy, look up "The Crusades", let me know how that turned out.

They already tried that Nazi Joe, several times. Remember??

You're just saying that because you have nothing else to say.
You know very well that Israel is going nowhere. Countries don't just get destroyed anymore, we are in the 21st century.
What would be nice is if you and your Nazi ilk would be wiped out, like all of Israel enemies of the past.

The Pro-Israeli lot are sure keen on genocide. Not to mention name calling ...
Which is worse?

The Palis think it's genocide and want to take it to the Hague. But they're like a little kid who doesn't realize the are making noise when they get into the cookie jar. Here's an example.


A former International Criminal Court prosecutor warned the Palestinians against pushing for war crimes action against Israel in The Hague. AP explains why:

Luis Moreno-Ocampo on Wednesday said the Palestinians are indeed eligible to join the court. But he said if they accepted its jurisdiction, Gaza’s Islamic Hamas rulers also could be investigated for rocket fire and suicide bombings against Israeli civilians.

In his first visit to Israel, he recommended the sides avoid the court and find a “creative” way to resolve their differences


Prosecutor Warns PA on Taking Israel to The Hague | HonestReporting

 

[Beelzebub]

You made a claim about a false translation made by MEMRI.
All I asked was for you to back it up.

I'm tempted to say, 'stop whining Phoney'.

But I'm curious.
What claim did I make?

you do realize you were responding to Toast and not Phoen?

Err. Yes..

You have highlighted my embarrassment.

A thousand apologies.

 

[Beelzebub]

They already tried that Nazi Joe, several times. Remember??

You're just saying that because you have nothing else to say.
You know very well that Israel is going nowhere. Countries don't just get destroyed anymore, we are in the 21st century.
What would be nice is if you and your Nazi ilk would be wiped out, like all of Israel enemies of the past.

The Pro-Israeli lot are sure keen on genocide. Not to mention name calling ...
Which is worse?

The Palis think it's genocide and want to take it to the Hague. But they're like a little kid who doesn't realize the are making noise when they get into the cookie jar. Here's an example.


A former International Criminal Court prosecutor warned the Palestinians against pushing for war crimes action against Israel in The Hague. AP explains why:

Luis Moreno-Ocampo on Wednesday said the Palestinians are indeed eligible to join the court. But he said if they accepted its jurisdiction, Gaza’s Islamic Hamas rulers also could be investigated for rocket fire and suicide bombings against Israeli civilians.

In his first visit to Israel, he recommended the sides avoid the court and find a “creative” way to resolve their differences


Prosecutor Warns PA on Taking Israel to The Hague | HonestReporting

I am all for Hamas and Fatah being made to take responsibility for their crimes too.

I think suggesting that the interests of a few Palestinian criminals should hold Palestine back from getting to the Israeli criminals is a bit daft.

Thankfully, the Palestinian diplomatic machine seems to think so too.

 

[Hossfly]

That's a lie. Unless you have some proof??
Speaking of which, you STILL haven't backed up your two claims.

So Are we in agreement that you were just making shit up?

Ah "proof"!

As half of America still insist that Dinosaurs never roamed the earth because it conflicts with their deepest held beliefs, what would you consider to be proof?

Have this, for starters. And you don't have to agree to acknowledge that Memri's objectivity is in question.

Selective Memri | World news | theguardian.com

I read that article, or a very similar one before. They ate claiming MEMRI is selective.

All MEMRI does is show us clips of televisions shows, usually news or debating shows from the Arab World with English subtitles in the bottom.

The people here who don't speak Arabic are the one who claims Memri distorts and lies. The Arabic speakers don't let out a peep because they know it's true. How in the world can a person's translated speech be a lie when the world is listening and watching. It's not the same as a dead man climbing onto a stretcher.

 

[aris2chat]

I'm tempted to say, 'stop whining Phoney'.

But I'm curious.
What claim did I make?

The first claim you made was that 'Pro Israelis are keen on genocide' in response to one of my posts.
I asked you where in any of my posts did you get that from. I got no answer.

Then you said 'Israel wipe out. This must be ANOTHER MEMRI false translation.
This implies you have come across a MEMRI false translation.

I asked you to show me which video you are talking about.

So far, all I'm getting from you are excuses .

But then Weezelbub, I'm used to this from the anti Zionist crowd

I took your "where " question as I would someone who asks where their glasses are, when they are on their head. In the quote of you, right above my comment, is the answer.

If you are not aware of the quite famous mistranslation of Ahamadinnerjackets comment that Israel disappear from the pages of history, to read as "Wiped off the map" then you really should feel a little embarrassed.

I am sure you can still find many a US media site that refuses to stop using the more aggressive translation, but that is the US media for you.

Does this help?

>>disappear from the pages of history, to read as "Wiped off the map"<<

if a country/state disappears from history, there would be no further maps with their name. If you eliminate a people or conquer/destroy a nation, you have wiped them off the map.
Problem for is that the jews have existed both in their central land and diaspora for millennia. Jews never stop returning, they just did not do in such large number. The holocaust make it rather urgent for them to find/build a nation where they can feel safe and secure so what happened on hitler's orders will never happen to the jewish people again. Life for everyone change after WWII. Maps, birth of nations, iron walls, arms race, we were affect by the collapse of empires and transition of people.

 

[thanatos144]

It truly upsets Joe that all those Jews are still alive.

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