thanatos144
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Hey Joe are you not worried you might be chating with Jews on this board???? I mean hell you might catch something !
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Hey Joe are you not worried you might be chating with Jews on this board???? I mean hell you might catch something !
JoeB131
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Um, no. Talk to Jewish folks all the time. And even agree with them on a lot of points when we aren't talking about Israel.
How about addressing my question. If Democrats hate Jews, why do the majority of Jews always vote for the Democratic Candidate?
I mean, you can't claim they are on the Welfare Plantation like you do when you try to excuse why you lose 90%+ of the black vote.
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Seems to me that anyone who insists on associating Jews, per se, with the Fascist Tribute act of Israel, must hate Jews.
Very many Jews work very hard to be heard because they DON'T support Israel, and actively OPPOSE the Zionist agenda.
Unless you want to be identified as a Jew hater, let's be clear:
Israeli: Citizen of the State of Israel. May be Zionist. May be Jewish. May be Anti-Zionist. May be non-Jewish.
Zionist: Supporter of the aims of Zionism.
Zionism: A political movement to associate Jews to one particular place, and to create a home for them there, so to end the Diapora. That place is usually Palestine, and modern day Israel, but has also been the Horn of Africa. Uganda was considered. Modern day the place is usually presumed to be the Holy Land. Name derives from Mount Zion, near Jerusalem.
Might be Jewish. May be Muslim. Most are probably Christians, in the US and Europe.
Adolf Hitler was a Zionist for a long while, and had common cause will the movement to relocate Jews to Palestine.
Jew (En. polite - 'Jewish'): A person of the Jewish religion. Sometimes also a Zionist (ie: supportive of Zionist aims) some times opposed to Zionist aims. Often indifferent and wishing people would stop insisting they have a stated view.
May have converted to the religion, or been brought up in it.
May also include people who are not religious but associate culturally to Jewish traditions.
Sometimes defined by strict Religious interpretation as person born of a Jewish mother. However this definition has unfortunate association to 1930's Germany racial and genetic definitions of the religion.
Semite: Person with family heritage to one or more of the Semitic Peoples. These include (though not exclusively) Amharic, Ammonite, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic/Syriac, Canaanite/Phoenician/Carthaginian, Chaldean, Eblaite, Edomite, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Mandaic, Moabite, Sutean, Tigre and Tigrinya, and Ugaritic.
Anti-Semite: Person who has antipathy towards the Semitic people solely or primarily due to their Semitic culture. In a popular but narrow sense this is used inaccurately as a synonym for Anti-Jewish.
In popular culture the term is also used for anyone critical of policies of, and policies supporting the modern state of Israel.
Israel: a militaristic state created in the mid 20th Century by European emigres from Central Europe and The Russias, though force of arms and political support from Russia, Europe and the USA, without consent of the people whom it displaced, and was to displace.
Has particular leanings towards 18th century concepts of racial purity & desire for mono-culturalism. Also has law favouring or disadvantaging by ethnicity. Refuses to confirm its borders, as has intentions similar to the mid-1900's mid European concept of "lebensraum" for its most favoured ethnic group.
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There. Glad we got THAT cleared up.
Very many Jews work very hard to be heard because they DON'T support Israel, and actively OPPOSE the Zionist agenda.
Unless you want to be identified as a Jew hater, let's be clear:
Israeli: Citizen of the State of Israel. May be Zionist. May be Jewish. May be Anti-Zionist. May be non-Jewish.
Zionist: Supporter of the aims of Zionism.
Zionism: A political movement to associate Jews to one particular place, and to create a home for them there, so to end the Diapora. That place is usually Palestine, and modern day Israel, but has also been the Horn of Africa. Uganda was considered. Modern day the place is usually presumed to be the Holy Land. Name derives from Mount Zion, near Jerusalem.
Might be Jewish. May be Muslim. Most are probably Christians, in the US and Europe.
Adolf Hitler was a Zionist for a long while, and had common cause will the movement to relocate Jews to Palestine.
Jew (En. polite - 'Jewish'): A person of the Jewish religion. Sometimes also a Zionist (ie: supportive of Zionist aims) some times opposed to Zionist aims. Often indifferent and wishing people would stop insisting they have a stated view.
May have converted to the religion, or been brought up in it.
May also include people who are not religious but associate culturally to Jewish traditions.
Sometimes defined by strict Religious interpretation as person born of a Jewish mother. However this definition has unfortunate association to 1930's Germany racial and genetic definitions of the religion.
Semite: Person with family heritage to one or more of the Semitic Peoples. These include (though not exclusively) Amharic, Ammonite, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic/Syriac, Canaanite/Phoenician/Carthaginian, Chaldean, Eblaite, Edomite, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Mandaic, Moabite, Sutean, Tigre and Tigrinya, and Ugaritic.
Anti-Semite: Person who has antipathy towards the Semitic people solely or primarily due to their Semitic culture. In a popular but narrow sense this is used inaccurately as a synonym for Anti-Jewish.
In popular culture the term is also used for anyone critical of policies of, and policies supporting the modern state of Israel.
Israel: a militaristic state created in the mid 20th Century by European emigres from Central Europe and The Russias, though force of arms and political support from Russia, Europe and the USA, without consent of the people whom it displaced, and was to displace.
Has particular leanings towards 18th century concepts of racial purity & desire for mono-culturalism. Also has law favouring or disadvantaging by ethnicity. Refuses to confirm its borders, as has intentions similar to the mid-1900's mid European concept of "lebensraum" for its most favoured ethnic group.
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There. Glad we got THAT cleared up.
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thanatos144
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LOL You bigots are just funny.
Stole their land as in the West Bank?
Maybe one day Joe, you will realize that the situation that the Palestinians are in is because of their warmongering ways against Israel since 1948 .
They should not have taken part in any of the wars that were started to eliminate Israel and they should not have taken part in terrorism against Israel in the first and second intifadas.
You reap what you sow. Don't like it? Move to Jordan or Lebanon or Egypt.
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The conflict began before 1948, toastman, because when you try to steal someones land and resources for your own ethnic group, those who possess it usually resist.
Now I see what you are saying.
The invaders were SUCCESSFUL in their military action to steal those things and then later successful in holding onto them.
However the idea of "Right by Conquest" went out with the end of WWII, in favour of international law. Which is good, because we know that "Might is Right" was a very flawed concept, and is consigned to mediaeval times.
Now, because today's great powers are not good at enforcing what the international courts rule, Israel is still able to play fast and loose with the law.
But that is ending. Israel will not get away with illegal occupation forever.
There was no invasion. That is just a Palestinian lie. European Jews were invited and the British facilitated their immigration. That's NOT an invasion. You use that term to further your hateful agenda.
And when the Jews declared independence in 1948, they didn't steal anything. They declared independence legally after cessation of the mandate.
Beelzebub
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There most certainly was an invasion toast.
The British had the most enormous problems in holding back the numbers of armed invaders, and illegal immigrants sent (and armed) from Germany, Russia and anywhere else the Zionist organisations could persuade them to come.
In fact the Zionist organisers did their level best to make conditions WORSE for Jews in Europe to persuade them to leave for a foreign land.
You clearly don't know your history.
The British had the most enormous problems in holding back the numbers of armed invaders, and illegal immigrants sent (and armed) from Germany, Russia and anywhere else the Zionist organisations could persuade them to come.
In fact the Zionist organisers did their level best to make conditions WORSE for Jews in Europe to persuade them to leave for a foreign land.
You clearly don't know your history.
I do know my history. And like I said, the Jews were invited and their immigration was facilitated by the British. You didn't address that part.
Do you have a link that says Zionists made life hard for European jews to make them come to the region??
Beelzebub
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You can read about it Toast. Google is your friend. I have no time to do your googling for you.
However, you may want to read about Nazi Germany's offer to send their Jews to Spain. That was before the Nazi "FINAL solution. (Called such because they tried other things first. Abominable things, but not as bad as the ovens.)
The Zionist leadership was happy that German Jews would be expelled, but only if they could be shipped to Palestine. Germany, for political reasons would only agree they went to neutral Spain. The Zionist leadership refused to facilitate that, so the Germans looked for other ways.
However, you may want to read about Nazi Germany's offer to send their Jews to Spain. That was before the Nazi "FINAL solution. (Called such because they tried other things first. Abominable things, but not as bad as the ovens.)
The Zionist leadership was happy that German Jews would be expelled, but only if they could be shipped to Palestine. Germany, for political reasons would only agree they went to neutral Spain. The Zionist leadership refused to facilitate that, so the Germans looked for other ways.
JoeB131
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i'm going to "invite" and "facilitate" a bunch of Homeless Stewbums to come over and live at your house.
Of course, I don't own your house and can't really extend the invitation, but I'm going to do it anyway because I'm that kind of guy.
Maybe I'll give the Stew-bums some weapons, in case you want to bitch about it.
They already tried that Nazi Joe, several times. Remember??
You're just saying that because you have nothing else to say.
You know very well that Israel is going nowhere. Countries don't just get destroyed anymore, we are in the 21st century.
What would be nice is if you and your Nazi ilk would be wiped out, like all of Israel enemies of the past.
Ummm, the Jews were given permission to declare independence. So of course why wouldn't they?? That's not stealing moron. Not even close.
Either way, it belongs to Israel now and there's nothing you or the world can do about it.
Tissue???
Beelzebub
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The Pro-Israeli lot are sure keen on genocide. Not to mention name calling ...
Which is worse?
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You're comparing the crusades to the situation now??
The crusades happened centuries ago. Like I said, countries don't just get wiped out anymore. Terrible terrible and pathetic comparison.
I would love to see any country or countries try to wile out Israel.
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