Philip Seymour Hoffman is dead

[Vox]

It's hard to get upset over another junkie dying of an overdose. This is what liberals want to legalize. There is said to be a very lethal heroin on the streets. It is heroin mixed with painkiller. The effect is supposed to be an instantaneous enormous high followed by death. Since it kills so quickly and this one was found with the needle still in his arm, it raises the question of whether he was using this new product. If it reduces the number of addicts how can it be so bad.

The problem is - in a society so shallow in values as ours, where celebrities are the role models for millions of kids - this IS something which should make people be upset.

 

[Michelle420]

Did someone say you had to be?

Just don't see the need to praise a rich retard that killed himself with drugs...

addiction is a disease. and it might take just one try to get addicted - for some.

Our society makes drugs glamorous part of being rich and famous.

it is easier to find a needle in a hay stock than a celebrity not addicted to any drugs.

and then millions of teenagers emulate this stupidity and the lame stream media brainwashes everybody stupid enough to listen to them into this fallacy "drugs should be made legal, then everything will overnight become nice and peachy".

They should be decriminalized. But they should be vilified, not glorified - half of this board is melting in awe on the prospect of the legalization of pot nationwide - and that is a harmful and extremely addictive substance ( for the Woodstock generation - pot nowadays is 10 times stronger than it was in the 60s).

I liked his some of his movies and said it's sad he died, where did I glorify his addiction or death?

 

[thanatos144]

There are musicians whose music I liked that also died from alcohol or drugs.

I think it's tragic that addiction can take someone's life but I am still able to like a movie or music produced from an individual regardless.

To me it's just sad he's gone.

You have your opinion and I have mine

It was hubris not addiction that killed him and those musicians. They think of themselves as Godlike and reality has a way of setting them straight. I love Hendrix but will tell my kids every time that this is what happens when you are stupid. Talent isn't a curse but stupidity is.

um ok, you love hendrix and tell your kids the truth, still you like his music.

I liked Phillip Seymour Hoffmans movie the Master, it sucks he died.

Your wrong by the way...The Master was a horrible movie...

 

[Papageorgio]

The needle was still in his arm.

OMG! I've been there but didn't die. Addiction is a tragedy, not a character flaw. I wonder if it was intentional or if he had contemplated/tried to end it..

I'm happy to hear you won out. Not everybody is as lucky. One of my old friends died of a heroin overdose at the young age of 21. It's a tragedy that can strike anybody, anywhere.

I have a friend addicted, she fights it everyday, sometimes she wins out but after awhile she gives in, I feel very sad for her. She calls crying and trying to fight it, it is very sad. She just wants to be normal.

 

[Vox]

Don't hold your breath.

he/she/it goes from thread to thread posting lies about other posters and then never admits to them or backs them up with facts.

I like your self critique.

are you talking about your bullshit claims of holly rollers?

you lied there as you lie always.

Where, EXACTLY, did I say pot is "harmless"?
Where, EXACTLY, did I "glorify drug legalization"?
How, EXACTLY, have I "enabled" drug addiction?

you did not? you are an exception for your leftard crowd which is bend in awe on the prospect of pot legalization?

are you against it?

 

[Inkslinger]

I'm as liberal as they come, but have zero tolerance for junkies. **** all the Facebook hoopla too, Not once have I heard mention of sorrow over the deaths of countless homeless addicts. Only the celebrities. **** that dude, he pissed his bed, let him sleep in it for all eternity. I pity his loved ones.

 

[Michelle420]

It was hubris not addiction that killed him and those musicians. They think of themselves as Godlike and reality has a way of setting them straight. I love Hendrix but will tell my kids every time that this is what happens when you are stupid. Talent isn't a curse but stupidity is.

um ok, you love hendrix and tell your kids the truth, still you like his music.

I liked Phillip Seymour Hoffmans movie the Master, it sucks he died.

Your wrong by the way...The Master was a horrible movie...

Not your kind of movie ok.

 

[Gracie]

He was excellent in Scent Of A Woman as well.

 

[Vox]

Just don't see the need to praise a rich retard that killed himself with drugs...

addiction is a disease. and it might take just one try to get addicted - for some.

Our society makes drugs glamorous part of being rich and famous.

it is easier to find a needle in a hay stock than a celebrity not addicted to any drugs.

and then millions of teenagers emulate this stupidity and the lame stream media brainwashes everybody stupid enough to listen to them into this fallacy "drugs should be made legal, then everything will overnight become nice and peachy".

They should be decriminalized. But they should be vilified, not glorified - half of this board is melting in awe on the prospect of the legalization of pot nationwide - and that is a harmful and extremely addictive substance ( for the Woodstock generation - pot nowadays is 10 times stronger than it was in the 60s).

I liked his some of his movies and said it's sad he died, where did I glorify his addiction or death?

did I say you did? I just extended your thoughts about addiction and added some. and i responded to Thanatos, not you as I see by quotes.

our society does - starting with the media. Oh, pot is harmless, oh, pot is good - that is almost a slogan, including this board.

And heroin was named as beneficial not by you but one of our other board members - MikeK - openly - so this is also already a trend in the making.

 

[Michelle420]

I like your self critique.

are you talking about your bullshit claims of holly rollers?

you lied there as you lie always.

Where, EXACTLY, did I say pot is "harmless"?
Where, EXACTLY, did I "glorify drug legalization"?
How, EXACTLY, have I "enabled" drug addiction?

you did not? you are an exception for your leftard crowd which is bend in awe on the prospect of pot legalization?

are you against it?

I don't do drugs myself.

I do know a girl who was born with spina bifida and she was on all sorts of strong prescription drugs and her doctor got her off oxy and put her on med pot and she seems to be doing a lot better.

It seems to me that under supervision there is some benefit to it.




What do you think about it?

 

[aaronleland]

It is you who don't know anything about drug addiction, it looks like. And MikeK as well.

Once and addict - always an addict. THAT is the verdict - for life.

This guy was clean for 23 years!!! Yet it managed to catch him AGAIN.
Because it is a death sentence, unfortunately.

When did I say anything to the contrary? Luddly is right. You are a liar.

not true

You can't just say "not true". People expect you to backup your bullshit with facts sometimes.

people can expect whatever they want. but only after they provide the proof to their bogus claim( where drugs are legal this tragedy does not happen) - and that idiocy did not require proof for you as I see.

your defense of this bogus claim proves exactly that - your personal glorification of the drug usage.

so stop lying and state it openly.

I never said a single thing you claim I did, and neither did Luddly. That's why you are a liar. Just admit you made shit up about us. Admit that we said nothing you claimed we did. Admit that you are a ******* liar. You know people can read your bullshit to confirm that, right? You even quoted the shit you lied about. Don't quote something I said, and make up your own narrative as you go along, you ******* snake.

 

[Michelle420]

addiction is a disease. and it might take just one try to get addicted - for some.

Our society makes drugs glamorous part of being rich and famous.

it is easier to find a needle in a hay stock than a celebrity not addicted to any drugs.

and then millions of teenagers emulate this stupidity and the lame stream media brainwashes everybody stupid enough to listen to them into this fallacy "drugs should be made legal, then everything will overnight become nice and peachy".

They should be decriminalized. But they should be vilified, not glorified - half of this board is melting in awe on the prospect of the legalization of pot nationwide - and that is a harmful and extremely addictive substance ( for the Woodstock generation - pot nowadays is 10 times stronger than it was in the 60s).

I liked his some of his movies and said it's sad he died, where did I glorify his addiction or death?

did I say you did? I just extended your thoughts about addiction and added some. and i responded to Thanatos, not you as I see by quotes.

our society does - starting with the media. Oh, pot is harmless, oh, pot is good - that is almost a slogan, including this board.

And heroin was named as beneficial not by you but one of our other board members - MikeK - openly - so this is also already a trend in the making.

I see, my apologies

 

[Gracie]

Pretty damn sad that folks can't express sadness at the death of a great actor without it turning AGAIN into a slugfest.

 

[BDBoop]

He was excellent in Scent Of A Woman as well.

I love that movie.

I loved him in the latest Hunger Games. And by 'loved' I mean "absolutely despised with every fiber of my being until I realized he was one of the good guys at the very end."

Effing brilliant.

 

[Michelle420]

Pretty damn sad that folks can't express sadness at the death of a great actor without it turning AGAIN into a slugfest.

Indeed

 

[BDBoop]

Pretty damn sad that folks can't express sadness at the death of a great actor without it turning AGAIN into a slugfest.

Gotta consider the source, sister mine.

 

[Vox]

When did I say anything to the contrary? Luddly is right. You are a liar.



You can't just say "not true". People expect you to backup your bullshit with facts sometimes.

people can expect whatever they want. but only after they provide the proof to their bogus claim( where drugs are legal this tragedy does not happen) - and that idiocy did not require proof for you as I see.

your defense of this bogus claim proves exactly that - your personal glorification of the drug usage.

so stop lying and state it openly.

I never said a single thing you claim I did, and neither did Luddly. That's why you are a liar. Just admit you made shit up about us. Admit that we said nothing you claimed we did. Admit that you are a ******* liar. You know people can read your bullshit to confirm that, right? You even quoted the shit you lied about. Don't quote something I said, and make up your own narrative as you go along, you ******* snake.

it is you who are a liar. you defended unsubstantiated claim made by Political Junky without even thinking that he/she/it should provide any proof for the made claim but demanded that from me when I called the claim BS.

That makes you both a liar and a defender of drug glorification - as stating that drug overdose does not happen when drugs are not criminalized is the idiocy in it's purest form.

so you can chose - are you a liar or simply an idiot.

 

[Vox]

OMG! I've been there but didn't die. Addiction is a tragedy, not a character flaw. I wonder if it was intentional or if he had contemplated/tried to end it..

I'm happy to hear you won out. Not everybody is as lucky. One of my old friends died of a heroin overdose at the young age of 21. It's a tragedy that can strike anybody, anywhere.

I have a friend addicted, she fights it everyday, sometimes she wins out but after awhile she gives in, I feel very sad for her. She calls crying and trying to fight it, it is very sad. She just wants to be normal.

if she has any possibility to live in any of the mentioned here countries ( sometimes people have families) - let her know about programs like this - they exist in Canada as well.

EMCDDA | News release No 1: EMCDDA report presents latest evidence on heroin-assisted treatment for hard-to-treat opioid users

 

[aaronleland]

it is you who are a liar. you defended unsubstantiated claim made by Political Junky without eve thinking that he/she/it should provide any proof for the made claim but demanded that from when I called the claim BS.

That makes you both a liar and a defender of drug glorification - as stating that drug overdose does not happen when drugs are not criminalized is the idiocy in it's purest form.

so you can chose - are you a liar or simply and idiot.

The only unsubstantiated claim was you response of "not true". I only pointed out that you provided zero facts to back up your statement.

Opposing prohibition doesn't equal glorification. Nobody said overdose doesn't happen when drugs are legal. Quit making shit up. Again, people can go back and read what was typed. You are a lying piece of shit. Never quote me again, unless you are willing to acknowledge what it is that I really said.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I like your self critique.

are you talking about your bullshit claims of holly rollers?

you lied there as you lie always.

Where, EXACTLY, did I say pot is "harmless"?
Where, EXACTLY, did I "glorify drug legalization"?
How, EXACTLY, have I "enabled" drug addiction?

you did not? you are an exception for your leftard crowd which is bend in awe on the prospect of pot legalization?

are you against it?

Why are you asking? You already said you know what I believe.

If you wouldn't lie, you wouldn't have to come back with this lame ass demand for what I really believe.

Piss off, liar.