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Don't even remember him in that one..
Philip Seymour Hoffman is dead
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Don't even remember him in that one..
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Yes, he played in a movie about porn and played a homosexual. It is something Jews relish in that is destroying America's moral fabric and Christian family values. To the Jew, he sold his soul and served their goals well.
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iamwhatiseem
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Twister?? Twister??
That was a horrible piece of crap. Why would anyone rate an actor on such a bomb.
blackhawk
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They are saying apparent drug overdose of course they always say that but it's usually the case as well.
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aaronleland
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Twister?? Twister??
That was a horrible piece of crap. Why would anyone rate an actor on such a bomb.
Lots of underrated actors take their earlier roles because they have to. Hoffman was no exception. He finally got to a point where he could pick and choose any role he wanted. As I said earlier in the topic, I'm glad that he at least gained the recognition he deserved before he passed.
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As with Elvis Presley and other famous personalities, Hoffman's death by heroin overdose is brought to our attention by their celebrity. But by no means will Hoffman be the only person to die this month, this week, or quite possibly today, from a heroin overdose. In fact it is likely that somewhere else in New York City today another corpse with a needle in its arm has been quietly zipped into a black body bag and unceremoniously carried off to the Bellvue Hospital Morgue. And the cause of all these tragic ends, whether Hoffman's or those of the anonymous ordinary "junkies," will be attributed to heroin. But heroin is not the cause of the vast majority of these "overdoses." The War on Drugs is.
The first thing to be understood is it is entirely possible for someone to lead a relatively normal life while addicted to heroin. In fact there are medical professionals who believe certain individuals' health can be improved by the stress-relieving effect of heroin (or other opiates). The key factor in such a prospect being that of properly administered, precisely measured, sterile doses -- a critical factor which is effectively eliminated by the utterly insane, wholly counterproductive War on Drugs.
I am not suggesting that heroin be made as available as Tylenol. But what must be considered is the fact that neither Hoffman nor any of the ordinary "junkies" whose heroin is sold to them by "dealers" have any real idea of what those little glassine bags contain. Until they actually "cook" it up and inject it they have no way of knowing the strength of the dose or what it's been "cut" with.
The fact is pure undiluted heroin is a powerful toxin. Ordinarily it is "cut" by dealers with quinine or some other equally benign carrier substance. But the dosages are rarely if ever measurably the same from one street "batch" to another. It also is a fact that a dose which will sustain a long-term addict who has developed a strong tolerance to the drug will stop the heart of a first-time or occasional user.
If clean, precisely measured doses of heroin were made available to certified addicts a very ugly and unnecessary situation could be eliminated. Specifically, the effects of the street crime committed by impoverished heroin "junkies" would end, Hoffman would continue to entertain us for years to come, and his children would not be made to suffer the loss of him.
The War on Drugs is one of the worst things a corrupt and incompetent government has done and is doing to America.
The first thing to be understood is it is entirely possible for someone to lead a relatively normal life while addicted to heroin. In fact there are medical professionals who believe certain individuals' health can be improved by the stress-relieving effect of heroin (or other opiates). The key factor in such a prospect being that of properly administered, precisely measured, sterile doses -- a critical factor which is effectively eliminated by the utterly insane, wholly counterproductive War on Drugs.
I am not suggesting that heroin be made as available as Tylenol. But what must be considered is the fact that neither Hoffman nor any of the ordinary "junkies" whose heroin is sold to them by "dealers" have any real idea of what those little glassine bags contain. Until they actually "cook" it up and inject it they have no way of knowing the strength of the dose or what it's been "cut" with.
The fact is pure undiluted heroin is a powerful toxin. Ordinarily it is "cut" by dealers with quinine or some other equally benign carrier substance. But the dosages are rarely if ever measurably the same from one street "batch" to another. It also is a fact that a dose which will sustain a long-term addict who has developed a strong tolerance to the drug will stop the heart of a first-time or occasional user.
If clean, precisely measured doses of heroin were made available to certified addicts a very ugly and unnecessary situation could be eliminated. Specifically, the effects of the street crime committed by impoverished heroin "junkies" would end, Hoffman would continue to entertain us for years to come, and his children would not be made to suffer the loss of him.
The War on Drugs is one of the worst things a corrupt and incompetent government has done and is doing to America.
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Exactly what do you understand about moral fabric and Christian family values? I'd say very little, based on your posts that are loaded with hate and closed-mindedness.
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Who?
IlarMeilyr
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Heroin addiction is a real killer.
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The drugs didn't jump into his bloodstream. Oh, and let's legalize them, right?
The guy had kids, and chose the drugs. I feel bad for his family, because they will always know he chose getting high over seeing them grow and prosper in their own lives.
Sorry, I'm about worn out with giving more of shit for people than they do for themselves.
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He was one of the most talented actors alive. I wouldn't expect you to know of him. Stick with Adam Sandler movies.
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He was one of the most talented actors alive. I wouldn't expect you to know of him. Stick with Adam Sandler movies.
Not too ******* smart, however.
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You know nothing about drug addiction. Of course all drug addicts say "Screw my kids. I'd rather do these drugs that may kill me, and leave them fatherless."
Nicotine and alcohol kill more people per year than heroin, and those are legal. Addiction of any kind is terrible, and can tear a family apart.
MikeK
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If you like movies you undoubtedly have enjoyed his performances much more than you know. The level of his skill as an actor is such that he can remain a relatively obscure celebrity while still putting forth so many brilliantly convincing performances.
His ego never interfered with his craft.
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You know nothing about drug addiction. Of course all drug addicts say "Screw my kids. I'd rather do these drugs that may kill me, and leave them fatherless."
Nicotine and alcohol kill more people per year than heroin, and those are legal. Addiction of any kind is terrible, and can tear a family apart.
Nictone is said to be as addictive as heroin, and I can attest from personal experience that getting off it was a nightmare, but I made my choices. Just like the dead father Philip who left children behind.
We all make choices. If they were easy, we'd all do the right thing.
MikeK
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Actually, impure and/or improperly administered doses of heroin is what kills.
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