Philip Seymour Hoffman is dead

All flavors of e-cig vapors come in no nicotine varieties. There is nothing wrong with their use by anyone including children. Nicotine by itself is no more dangerous than caffeine. There is certainly no mental impairment like there is with pot.

Except that if kids move onto tobacco and they also sell it with nicotine too.

At any rate it doesn't effect me at all since I don't smoke or do drugs but there has been debate on whether marketing candy flavors influences children to try it and if they will move on to harder things.

That was what the article I linked said.
 
just for aaronleland, so he gets educated on the bogus claims his brother on political affiliation makes:

Would legalizing illicit opioids reduce overdose fatalities? Implications from a natural experiment

Shane Darke*,
Michael Farrell

Article first published online: 24 JAN 2014

DOI: 10.1111/add.12456

© 2014 Society for the Study of Addiction
Would legalizing illicit opioids reduce overdose fatalities? Implications from a natural experiment - Darke - 2014 - Addiction - Wiley Online Library




Abstract

Overdose is the leading cause of premature mortality among heroin users. We examine whether the provision of regulated and quality-controlled heroin to users in specified doses would reduce heroin overdose rates. We also address this in the context of the epidemic of prescription opioid use and deaths seen in recent years in the United States and internationally. We explore the extent to which any change in legal access to heroin would affect overdose rates, and note that this depends upon the validity of the two main assumptions that variations in illicit drug purity and/or the presence of drug contaminants are major causes of overdose. Toxicological and demographic data from studies of heroin overdose deaths do not support these assumptions. The surge in the use of pharmaceutical opioids provides an example of the legal delivery of opioids of known dosage and free of contaminants, where overdose deaths can be examined to test these assumptions. Rates of fatal opioid overdose have escalated, with increased rates of prescribing of pharmaceutical opioids. On the basis of the experience with prescription opioids, unregulated legal heroin access would not reduce overdose rates.
 
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I wondered if they were patterning the leader after L Ron Hubbard.
 
All flavors of e-cig vapors come in no nicotine varieties. There is nothing wrong with their use by anyone including children. Nicotine by itself is no more dangerous than caffeine. There is certainly no mental impairment like there is with pot.

Except that if kids move onto tobacco and they also sell it with nicotine too.

At any rate it doesn't effect me at all since I don't smoke or do drugs but there has been debate on whether marketing candy flavors influences children to try it and if they will move on to harder things.

That was what the article I linked said.

The reality is someone who vapes bubblegum, lemon drop or fruit punch vapor is the least likely to smoke cigarettes. The taste would be too vile. Unless you think that chewing doublemint gum is a step toward chewing tobacco. At the vape shop I go to they have many customers who have never smoked cigarettes, but love their blueberry vapor. It doesn't make them want to smoke cigarettes. There is no buzz with vapes like there is with cigarettes and no need to move on to harder things. It's the same as if someone had never smoked anything.
 
All flavors of e-cig vapors come in no nicotine varieties. There is nothing wrong with their use by anyone including children. Nicotine by itself is no more dangerous than caffeine. There is certainly no mental impairment like there is with pot.

Except that if kids move onto tobacco and they also sell it with nicotine too.

At any rate it doesn't effect me at all since I don't smoke or do drugs but there has been debate on whether marketing candy flavors influences children to try it and if they will move on to harder things.

That was what the article I linked said.

The reality is someone who vapes bubblegum, lemon drop or fruit punch vapor is the least likely to smoke cigarettes. The taste would be too vile. Unless you think that chewing doublemint gum is a step toward chewing tobacco. At the vape shop I go to they have many customers who have never smoked cigarettes, but love their blueberry vapor. It doesn't make them want to smoke cigarettes. There is no buzz with vapes like there is with cigarettes and no need to move on to harder things. It's the same as if someone had never smoked anything.

growing number of East Bay cities are taking steps to restrict electronic cigarettes, and Union City has led the charge, becoming the state's first municipality to ban vapor lounges and other businesses where e-cigarettes are used.

The City Council approved the new regulation earlier this month after a Union City Youth Commission report expressed concern that e-cigarettes might lead to an increase in nicotine addiction. The commission, comprised of 16 New Haven Unified students in grades 7 to 12, also asserted that fast-growing e-cigarette products are being marketed to minors.

"The kids wanted us to regulate them because they were being sold and packaged in less expensive ways that let kids get their hands on them," Mayor Carol Dutra-Vernaci said. "We are trying to promote healthy lifestyles in Union City and the new ordinance helps with that."

The new law, effective Jan. 9, also bans medical marijuana dispensaries in Union City.

Other cities are following suit. Earlier this month, Richmond restricted the use of e-cigarettes in public spaces, and Hayward council members are scheduled next month to consider similar regulations.

E-cigarettes are smokeless devices, typically made of plastic or metal, that allow users to inhale nicotine vapor rather than tobacco fumes.The Federal Food and Drug Administration does not regulate the products and has said the safety of the devices is still unknown.


Union City leads charge among East Bay cities to restrict e-cigarettes, vapor lounges - San Jose Mercury News


Well we will just disagree about it.
 
With one exception, it is of no surprise that those who are having a 'don't give a ****' moment about Hoffman are our compassionate conservative friends. Typical - it's all about you guys "I don't care about him", "I think he's just another liberal actor"..."I, I, I". Hey Steve and Thantos, with all due respect, nobody gives **** what you think about him. We're only interested in his acting ability because none of us knew him. And on that scale, he'll be sadly missed because unlike the pin up boys like Cruise, or Tatum, or Helmsworth, sure he wasn't a pretty face, but he could wipe the floor with them with his acting ability.
 


He cracks me up at the 1:20 mark (give or take).
 
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He was a GREAT actor. I am sure going to miss him. :(
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goW_gn0Ia6w

He cracks me up at the 1:20 mark (give or take).

:lol:

That was a good movie I saw it, He played a lot of diverse characters.

My fav part..that I can't find on youtube, is where Rusty is trying to talk to DeNiro and when DeNiro slams the door, Rusty starts yelling DADDY OH DADDY OOOOOH...OHHHHH...making DeNiro open the door to shut him up before the neighbors hear. :lmao:

:laugh2:
 
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E cigs bad! Alcohol good!

Ecigs bad. Pot good.

The opposition to ecigs is based completely on ignorance. People don't like them because it looks too much like smoking a cigarette.

The facts of it are the more people demand the legalization of marijuana the harder it will be to stop ecigs. Already vaporizers have been modified to use pot and hash. When a non smoker complains to me about my vaporizer I always tell them it's my weed vape. Not only do they stop complaining they want to know where they can get one of their own. There are several vape shops around. Most of them sell both kinds of vaporizers. No one can tell the difference by looking at them.

Anyone who pretends to be against vaping for the chuuuurrrrrddddrrrreeeennn is sure keeping awfully quiet about pot candy and cookies.
 
I'm happy to hear you won out. Not everybody is as lucky. One of my old friends died of a heroin overdose at the young age of 21. It's a tragedy that can strike anybody, anywhere.

I have a friend addicted, she fights it everyday, sometimes she wins out but after awhile she gives in, I feel very sad for her. She calls crying and trying to fight it, it is very sad. She just wants to be normal.

if she has any possibility to live in any of the mentioned here countries ( sometimes people have families) - let her know about programs like this - they exist in Canada as well.

EMCDDA | News release No 1: EMCDDA report presents latest evidence on heroin-assisted treatment for hard-to-treat opioid users

Thanks Vox, she's been to the Malibu Clinic and paid it on her dime. I'll let her know about this.
 
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