Perhaps the best test of alternate realities - clear video of the shooting

[Mac-7]

The video clearly shows him shooting into the passenger windows twice from the side of the van.

Yes, the final two shots

The police are trained to shoot to kill

Only in Hollywood do they “wing” an adversary or shoot the tires

 

[Delldude]

ICE Academy Training Slashed in Bizarre Homage to Trump​

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2 days ago — The number of ICE agents' training days was reduced to 47 days months before an ICE agent killed an unarmed mother in Minnesota.

Ten years on the job you idiot.

 

[SweetSue92]

Not Macbut it appears from one video at least that there is a strong case for that.

Yes, and he started the post predictably lambasting "MAGA" for saying he was hit. Well, he was hit...and Mac, also predictably, has run away

 

[Zincwarrior]

And you don't shoot, you're endangering the folks behind you and down the road.

If needed they can pursue the vehicle. Again, this is not a felony stop.

 

[Muhammed]

Here's the clip from the different angle I was talking about that was going around.... Too bad someone added loud music to it.... And it's also sped up.


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^ Ok, now Grok is saying that clip is from ANOTHER incident a year ago! But that's the clip that was being passed around as a different angle of the Minnesota shooting.

This is crazy. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of this.

That same cop was drug 50 feet down the street and was almost killed in another incident last year. That incident could explain why he was so quick to shoot.

 

[Delldude]

If needed they can pursue the vehicle. Again, this is not a felony stop.

Turned into one when she decided to flee and disobey lawful orders.

 

[Stryder50]

He used his training and that was unfortunate for her, and your opinion is yet another opinion that goes along with the leftist Biden saying "hey why can't you just shoot them in the leg", otherwise having no clue as to how year's of data shows police organizations exactly what type of training and measures to take in their training when certain situations arise.

I have seen politician's have to change their minds and positions held when put into officer training scenarios that proved to them that they have no clue as to what they thought they knew or it outed them for how corrupt and evil they are when spewing lies constantly against good law enforcement.

I went through something similar several years ago. Our Sheriff's Dept. offered a course on civilian law enforcement education (Citizen's Academy), about eleven weeks on Tuesday evening for a few hours where they went over may aspects of what's involved. Included overview of basic investigation methods, traffic rule and enforcement search and rescue, first response and in one session we had "live shoot" training, guns had 'caps' - bang&flash, no bullet.

The "live shoot" had some of us go through hypotheticals and then have to react, often within seconds. One gal was simulating approaching a stopped vehicle from the passenger side when the person inside fired at her. !!! Hard to say if she would have been hit in real life, but she sure dropped down quickly beside the vehicle and out of line of fire.

My point is that in law enforcement there often are situations where "shoot/don't shoot" decision has to be made in seconds to a fraction of a second. No time for Monday morning quarterbacking.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If needed they can pursue the vehicle. Again, this is not a felony stop.

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Refusing to comply with the order of a Federal law enforcement officer is a felony.

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[Zincwarrior]

Turned into one when she decided to flee and disobey lawful orders.

And thats what pursuit is for. PoPo don't normally start shooting at a vehicle. Thats Hollywood.

Despite what AntiPoPo think, they don't want to shoot bystanders or anyone generally.

 

[leftwinger]

The list that Board Stain want to prevent capture, jail of or removal. Block ICE with cars....it's a block party for TDS vermin.

 

[Zincwarrior]

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Refusing to comply with the order of a Federal law enforcement officer is a felony.

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No its not. Please cite.

 

[Rawley]

If needed they can pursue the vehicle. Again, this is not a felony stop.

So you don't think she was driving recklessly? Slamming on the gas with someone standing in front of her car, on an icy street?

 

[leftwinger]

Lost in MacStainLand again:


Mugshots released by ICE show some of the most dangerous criminal illegal aliens arrested during a recent enforcement surge in Minnesota.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has handed over to Fox News a chilling list of the most heinous criminal illegal aliens arrested during a recent surge operation in Minnesota.

This “sanctuary state” – a haven for lawbreakers under liberal governance – has been sheltering some of the worst predators imaginable, including convicted child rapists, sodomizers, and multiple murderers, many with deportation orders dating back decades.

Fox News’ reporter Bill Melugin wrote on X:

“ICE has provided Fox News a list of the most egregious criminal aliens they’ve arrested during their surge in the sanctuary state of Minnesota, & it’s the most disturbing list I’ve ever seen, including numerous convicted child rapists/sodomizers & ten convicted killers, most with deportation orders going back many years. Several from Laos, Somalia, and Sudan.”

These are the same individuals, Democrats routinely described as their “neighbors” while attempting to obstruct federal law enforcement operations.

Melugin wrote:

“Sriudorn Phaivan, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of strong-arm sodomy of a boy & strong-arm sodomy of a girl with a deportation order since 2018.

Tou Vang, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of sexual assault and sodomy of a girl under age 13 and procuring a child for prostitution with a deportation order since 2006.

Chong Vue, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of the strong-arm rape of a 12-year-old girl and kidnapping a child with intent to sexually assault her, with a deportation order since 2004,

Ge Yang, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of strong-arm rape, aggravated assault with a weapon, and strangulation with a deportation order since 2012.

Pao Choua Xiong, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of rape and child fondling with a deportation order since 2003.

Kou Lor, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of rape, rape with a weapon, and sexual assault with a deportation order since 1996.

Hernan Cortes-Valencia, Mexican illegal alien convicted of sexual assault of a child and DUI with a deportation order since 2016.

Abdirashid Adosh Elmi, a Somalian illegal alien convicted of homicide.

Gilberto Salguero Landaverde, a Salvadoran illegal alien convicted of three counts of homicide with a deportation order since June 2025.

Gabriel Figueroa Gama, a Mexican illegal convicted of homicide who has been previously deported in 2002.

Galuak Michael Rotgai, a Sudanese illegal alien convicted of homicide.

Thai Lor, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of two counts of homicide with a deportation order since 2009.

Mariana Sia Kanu, an illegal alien from Sierra Leone convicted of two counts of homicide with a deportation order since 2022.

Aldrin Guerrero Munoz, a Mexican illegal alien convicted of homicide with a deportation order since 2015.

Abdirashid Mohamed Ahmed, a Somalian illegal alien convicted of manslaughter with a deportation order since 2022.

Mongong Dual Maniang Deng, a Sudanese illegal alien convicted of attempt to commit homicide, weapon possession, and DUI.

Aler Gomez Lucas, a Guatemalan illegal alien convicted of negligent homicide with a vehicle and DUI with a deportation order since 2022.

Shwe Htoo, a Burmese illegal alien convicted of negligent homicide.

ICE says all of these criminal aliens were roaming freely in the sanctuary state of Minnesota prior to arrest, and that these are the type of people that politicians and activists are referring to as their “neighbors” as they attempt to interfere with ICE.”

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt wrote on X, “This is why we have ICE Agents. May God Bless them for their thankless work to protect American communities from these sick people.”



ICE Director Todd Lyons said in a statement to Fox News:

“Regardless of staged political theatrics, ICE is going to continue to arrest the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens in Minnesota and elsewhere.

“Some of these criminal aliens have had final orders of removal for 30 years, but they’ve been free to terrorize Minnesotans. ICE’s arrests prevent recidivism and make communities safer, but it feels like local politicians want to ignore that part and drum up discontent rather than protect their own constituents.”

Feds Release Chilling List of Violent Criminal Aliens Arrested in Minnesota Sanctuary State — Child Rapists, Sodomizers, and Killers Roamed Free for YEARS | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has handed over to Fox News a chilling list of the most heinous criminal illegal aliens arrested during a recent surge operation in Minnesota.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Delldude]

And thats what pursuit is for. PoPo don't normally start shooting at a vehicle. Thats Hollywood.

Despite what AntiPoPo think, they don't want to shoot bystanders or anyone generally.

It wasn't anywhere near a pursuit situation. She was ordered out of the car, chose to flee, didn't realize there was an officer in her path, he took it as she was trying to run him down, and that's that.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

didn't realize there was an officer in her path,

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I agree with everything but this. Ross' camera showed her looking straight at him.

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[Delldude]

Lost in zmacStainLand again:

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Feds Release Chilling List of Violent Criminal Aliens Arrested in Minnesota Sanctuary State — Child Rapists, Sodomizers, and Killers Roamed Free for YEARS
by Jim Hᴏft Jan. 11, 2026 9:30 am247 Comments
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Mugshots of twelve individuals from a police database, showcasing diverse backgrounds and expressions in a grid format.
Mugshots released by ICE show some of the most dangerous criminal illegal aliens arrested during a recent enforcement surge in Minnesota. (Screenshot: Bill Melugin/Fox News)
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has handed over to Fox News a chilling list of the most heinous criminal illegal aliens arrested during a recent surge operation in Minnesota.

This “sanctuary state” – a haven for lawbreakers under liberal governance – has been sheltering some of the worst predators imaginable, including convicted child rapists, sodomizers, and multiple murderers, many with deportation orders dating back decades.

Fox News’ reporter Bill Melugin wrote on X:

“ICE has provided Fox News a list of the most egregious criminal aliens they’ve arrested during their surge in the sanctuary state of Minnesota, & it’s the most disturbing list I’ve ever seen, including numerous convicted child rapists/sodomizers & ten convicted killers, most with deportation orders going back many years. Several from Laos, Somalia, and Sudan.”

These are the same individuals, Democrats routinely described as their “neighbors” while attempting to obstruct federal law enforcement operations.

Melugin wrote:

“Sriudorn Phaivan, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of strong-arm sodomy of a boy & strong-arm sodomy of a girl with a deportation order since 2018.

Tou Vang, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of sexual assault and sodomy of a girl under age 13 and procuring a child for prostitution with a deportation order since 2006.

Chong Vue, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of the strong-arm rape of a 12-year-old girl and kidnapping a child with intent to sexually assault her, with a deportation order since 2004,

Ge Yang, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of strong-arm rape, aggravated assault with a weapon, and strangulation with a deportation order since 2012.

Pao Choua Xiong, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of rape and child fondling with a deportation order since 2003.

Kou Lor, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of rape, rape with a weapon, and sexual assault with a deportation order since 1996.

Hernan Cortes-Valencia, Mexican illegal alien convicted of sexual assault of a child and DUI with a deportation order since 2016.

Abdirashid Adosh Elmi, a Somalian illegal alien convicted of homicide.

Gilberto Salguero Landaverde, a Salvadoran illegal alien convicted of three counts of homicide with a deportation order since June 2025.

Gabriel Figueroa Gama, a Mexican illegal convicted of homicide who has been previously deported in 2002.

Galuak Michael Rotgai, a Sudanese illegal alien convicted of homicide.

Thai Lor, a Laotian illegal alien convicted of two counts of homicide with a deportation order since 2009.

Mariana Sia Kanu, an illegal alien from Sierra Leone convicted of two counts of homicide with a deportation order since 2022.

Aldrin Guerrero Munoz, a Mexican illegal alien convicted of homicide with a deportation order since 2015.

Abdirashid Mohamed Ahmed, a Somalian illegal alien convicted of manslaughter with a deportation order since 2022.

Mongong Dual Maniang Deng, a Sudanese illegal alien convicted of attempt to commit homicide, weapon possession, and DUI.

Aler Gomez Lucas, a Guatemalan illegal alien convicted of negligent homicide with a vehicle and DUI with a deportation order since 2022.

Shwe Htoo, a Burmese illegal alien convicted of negligent homicide.

ICE says all of these criminal aliens were roaming freely in the sanctuary state of Minnesota prior to arrest, and that these are the type of people that politicians and activists are referring to as their “neighbors” as they attempt to interfere with ICE.”

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt wrote on X, “This is why we have ICE Agents. May God Bless them for their thankless work to protect American communities from these sick people.”



ICE Director Todd Lyons said in a statement to Fox News:

“Regardless of staged political theatrics, ICE is going to continue to arrest the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens in Minnesota and elsewhere.

“Some of these criminal aliens have had final orders of removal for 30 years, but they’ve been free to terrorize Minnesotans. ICE’s arrests prevent recidivism and make communities safer, but it feels like local politicians want to ignore that part and drum up discontent rather than protect their own constituents.”

Feds Release Chilling List of Violent Criminal Aliens Arrested in Minnesota Sanctuary State — Child Rapists, Sodomizers, and Killers Roamed Free for YEARS | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has handed over to Fox News a chilling list of the most heinous criminal illegal aliens arrested during a recent surge operation in Minnesota.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Thanks for posting that. I saw it earlier and forgot to bookmark it. It puts what ICE is doing on the map for those leftist assholes who want to impede these criminals from being apprehended.

What a bunch of ass hats on the left.

 

[Delldude]

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I agree with everything but this. Ross' camera showed her looking straight at him.

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I think as it was all going down, she was accelerating and at the last instant saw him.

Either way, like a guy I knew used to say 'Lose big today, eh man'

 

[Zincwarrior]

So you don't think she was driving recklessly? Slamming on the gas with someone standing in front of her car, on an icy street?

Hell yes that was reckless. FURTHER I will agree that the ICE could legally stop and question them. FURTHER I will agree that she shouldn't have been there attempting to block the road. FURTHER I will re-iterate that I believe it was a legal shoot. FURTHER I will state my opinion that having kids means you don't get the luxury of actively trying to stop the PoPo even if were legal.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

There's another clip of the incident from an entirely different standpoint that shows there was contact. But nevertheless, he put himself in front of a vehicle and stayed there when he didn't have to, and did other things wrong too, as this retired agent with 25 years experience including in the investigative arm of ICE/DHS explains:

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Yeah but she was at fault for escaping detention, and striking him. That said, I do agree his was at least too quick with his weapon. As having done some law enforcement myself, good chance I'm not pulling that trigger.

That said, while maybe the officer fucked up standing in front of the car, in a snap decision, how are you supposed to know the gal isn't trying to run you over when her actions are exactly that? Neat, the tires were slightly right, who the **** cares when she wasn't stopping, and he can't see the tires anyway. All he knows that the gal struck him during escape, and it wasn't an accident. Stupid yes, accident no - but you know, Renee was just having fun.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It wasn't anywhere near a pursuit situation. She was ordered out of the car, chose to flee, didn't realize there was an officer in her path, he took it as she was trying to run him down, and that's that.

I agree completely