People's Peace Treaty proposal

[Peteralt]

This is my first post here! Any way, I'm very frustrated by the lack of progress being made in the peace process. As an American Jew and someone who has been to Israel on numerous visits, I am very familiar with the situation. Despite the actions of current politicians, I believe peace is possible. Not only is it possible, but the gap in differences is much narrower than we are led to believe. Additionally, some of it is the bickering of pure semantics, definition of words, lack of empathy of the other side, broken promises, impossible expectations, arbitrary starting points, etc.

I seriously believe that peace-minded people of both sides serious about peace can work out a detailed "People's Peace Treaty" and show the World that peace is possible, and that the politicians have failed us thus far in getting it done!

I've thought of answers to all the known sticking points. The solutions are not that complicated. I believe they should be agreeable to both sides. I'm also sure some of you have thought up some solutions of your own, as well. All these solutions could be discussed, debated on, improved, substituted, thrown out, added to, etc. over forums like these until an actual document is edited together and meshed out that could be proposed.

The first step is to get feedback - especially Palestinian feedback - on my ideas. Please, if you're Palestinian, introduce yourself. I'll start discussion and explain some ideas I have after that...

 

[member]

This is my first post here! Any way, I'm very frustrated by the lack of progress being made in the peace process. As an American Jew and someone who has been to Israel on numerous visits, I am very familiar with the situation. Despite the actions of current politicians, I believe peace is possible. Not only is it possible, but the gap in differences is much narrower than we are led to believe. Additionally, some of it is the bickering of pure semantics, definition of words, lack of empathy of the other side, broken promises, impossible expectations, arbitrary starting points, etc.

I seriously believe that peace-minded people of both sides serious about peace can work out a detailed "People's Peace Treaty" and show the World that peace is possible, and that the politicians have failed us thus far in getting it done!

I've thought of answers to all the known sticking points. The solutions are not that complicated. I believe they should be agreeable to both sides. I'm also sure some of you have thought up some solutions of your own, as well. All these solutions could be discussed, debated on, improved, substituted, thrown out, added to, etc. over forums like these until an actual document is edited together and meshed out that could be proposed.

The first step is to get feedback - especially Palestinian feedback - on my ideas. Please, if you're Palestinian, introduce yourself. I'll start discussion and explain some ideas I have after that...

years ago, at one time, you'd "get feedback." but (i notice) not so much anymore.
after 9/11, i noticed they got quiet...then quieter...now:

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they "ain't" nowhere to be found.​

my personal opinion is: "they" don't like "american-themed" ...boards...and seems like it would be hard to have a straight-faced conversation with the average joe-palestinian native, when...........

half the time, you never get to see their faces................​

 

[montelatici]

You wouldn't see many African Americans posting on a KKK board, either.

 

[Sally]

You wouldn't see many African Americans posting on a KKK board, either.

Strange Bedfellows: American Nazi Party & Nation of Islam - Political Wrinkles

 

[Phoenall]

You wouldn't see many African Americans posting on a KKK board, either.

But this isn't a KKK board but one to discuss/debate the Israeli/Palestinian problem. It is not the S.A. board as you think when your arguments are dissected before your eyes and held up as false.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Enforce international law!

There will be no peace until the world decides to enforce international law.

 

[Phoenall]

Enforce international law!

There will be no peace until the world decides to enforce international law.

Then the Palestinians will have something to really complain about. After all they are the ones making the most breaches of International Law at the moment.

 

[montelatici]

You wouldn't see many African Americans posting on a KKK board, either.

But this isn't a KKK board but one to discuss/debate the Israeli/Palestinian problem. It is not the S.A. board as you think when your arguments are dissected before your eyes and held up as false.

You are the epitome of a KKK member. Heck, you are Grand Wizard material the way you talk about blacks and Arabs.

 

[Sally]

You wouldn't see many African Americans posting on a KKK board, either.

But this isn't a KKK board but one to discuss/debate the Israeli/Palestinian problem. It is not the S.A. board as you think when your arguments are dissected before your eyes and held up as false.

You are the epitome of a KKK member. Heck, you are Grand Wizard material the way you talk about blacks and Arabs.

My goodness, Defeat67, you sound like the right-hand aide of the Ayatollah Khomeini who told you to blabber away on forums demonizing Israel and the Jews. By the way, I wonder if you were one of the Republican Guards when you lived in Iran.

 

[Phoenall]

You wouldn't see many African Americans posting on a KKK board, either.

But this isn't a KKK board but one to discuss/debate the Israeli/Palestinian problem. It is not the S.A. board as you think when your arguments are dissected before your eyes and held up as false.

You are the epitome of a KKK member. Heck, you are Grand Wizard material the way you talk about blacks and Arabs.

And what does this make you then, an ISLAMONAZI LYING PROPAGANDIST who cant see what is going on under your very nose.

Care to reveal these alleged breaches of International Law committed by Israel, don't forget no ISLAMONAZI sites and the actual laws they have been charged with by the UN or the ICJ ?

 

[montelatici]

But this isn't a KKK board but one to discuss/debate the Israeli/Palestinian problem. It is not the S.A. board as you think when your arguments are dissected before your eyes and held up as false.

You are the epitome of a KKK member. Heck, you are Grand Wizard material the way you talk about blacks and Arabs.

And what does this make you then, an ISLAMONAZI LYING PROPAGANDIST who cant see what is going on under your very nose.

Care to reveal these alleged breaches of International Law committed by Israel, don't forget no ISLAMONAZI sites and the actual laws they have been charged with by the UN or the ICJ ?

Well, it isn't too difficult to find Israeli breaches of International Law, you could look them up yourself. Heck, even the Voice of America publicizes them.

"UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements"

UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements

 

[Phoenall]

You are the epitome of a KKK member. Heck, you are Grand Wizard material the way you talk about blacks and Arabs.

And what does this make you then, an ISLAMONAZI LYING PROPAGANDIST who cant see what is going on under your very nose.

Care to reveal these alleged breaches of International Law committed by Israel, don't forget no ISLAMONAZI sites and the actual laws they have been charged with by the UN or the ICJ ?

Well, it isn't too difficult to find Israeli breaches of International Law, you could look them up yourself. Heck, even the Voice of America publicizes them.

"UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements"

UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements

So were are the warrants for the criminals charged with breaches of International Law, a news site is not evidence. In fact you have failed to even comprehend what I asked for, the details of the breaches as charged by the UN and ICJ. Do you want the ones for your muslim brothers, were they have been found guilty as charged and sentenced to prison.


Forgot to add that the UNSC is an Islamic puppet that dances to the tune of islam.

 

[montelatici]

And what does this make you then, an ISLAMONAZI LYING PROPAGANDIST who cant see what is going on under your very nose.

Care to reveal these alleged breaches of International Law committed by Israel, don't forget no ISLAMONAZI sites and the actual laws they have been charged with by the UN or the ICJ ?

Well, it isn't too difficult to find Israeli breaches of International Law, you could look them up yourself. Heck, even the Voice of America publicizes them.

"UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements"

UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements

So were are the warrants for the criminals charged with breaches of International Law, a news site is not evidence. In fact you have failed to even comprehend what I asked for, the details of the breaches as charged by the UN and ICJ. Do you want the ones for your muslim brothers, were they have been found guilty as charged and sentenced to prison.


Forgot to add that the UNSC is an Islamic puppet that dances to the tune of islam.

Ahhhh, I wasn't aware of that.

 

[Phoenall]

Well, it isn't too difficult to find Israeli breaches of International Law, you could look them up yourself. Heck, even the Voice of America publicizes them.

"UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements"

UN, EU, Russia Condemn Israeli Settlements

So were are the warrants for the criminals charged with breaches of International Law, a news site is not evidence. In fact you have failed to even comprehend what I asked for, the details of the breaches as charged by the UN and ICJ. Do you want the ones for your muslim brothers, were they have been found guilty as charged and sentenced to prison.


Forgot to add that the UNSC is an Islamic puppet that dances to the tune of islam.

Ahhhh, I wasn't aware of that.

You should be as it has been posted often enough on here

 

[montelatici]

So were are the warrants for the criminals charged with breaches of International Law, a news site is not evidence. In fact you have failed to even comprehend what I asked for, the details of the breaches as charged by the UN and ICJ. Do you want the ones for your muslim brothers, were they have been found guilty as charged and sentenced to prison.


Forgot to add that the UNSC is an Islamic puppet that dances to the tune of islam.

Ahhhh, I wasn't aware of that.

You should be as it has been posted often enough on here

Well, nutcases would say the the UNSC is an Islamic puppet, so it has probably been stated many times by you Zionutters.

 

[Sally]

Ahhhh, I wasn't aware of that.

You should be as it has been posted often enough on here

Well, nutcases would say the the UNSC is an Islamic puppet, so it has probably been stated many times by you Zionutters.

Aha, but the Secretary General of the UN has stated that the UN is anti-Semitic. I doubt that he would make this claim unless it was true; however, Islamo nutcases don't like to hear stuff like that.

 

[montelatici]

You mean the Secretary General that was selected because he is a U.S. puppet?

 

[aris2chat]

Monty has been over fed

 

[Sally]

You mean the Secretary General that was selected because he is a U.S. puppet?

I am willing to bet that most of the readers on this forum are Americans, and Americans are very street smart. They noticed that this Monte character (Haniya) came to this forum about the same time as Defeat67. Haniya didn't post much, but Defeat67 put up so many posts like he had diarrhea of the keyboard. Defeat67 disappeared (we all know why) and now shows up under Haniya's screen name and is following in his fashion as before -- one post after another trying, as so many Muslims do, to demonize Israel. Does Defeat67 have any interest at all in the tens of thousands of innocent people that have been and are still being murdered in the Middle East by his brethren or is his entire purpose for showing up is to continue demonizing Israel as if Israel was the worse, worse country on this planet.

 

[montelatici]

You mean the Secretary General that was selected because he is a U.S. puppet?

I am willing to bet that most of the readers on this forum are Americans, and Americans are very street smart. They noticed that this Monte character (Haniya) came to this forum about the same time as Defeat67. Haniya didn't post much, but Defeat67 put up so many posts like he had diarrhea of the keyboard. Defeat67 disappeared (we all know why) and now shows up under Haniya's screen name and is following in his fashion as before -- one post after another trying, as so many Muslims do, to demonize Israel. Does Defeat67 have any interest at all in the tens of thousands of innocent people that have been and are still being murdered in the Middle East by his brethren or is his entire purpose for showing up is to continue demonizing Israel as if Israel was the worse, worse country on this planet.

This is quite entertaining, I enjoy this identity game. But, no. Israel is not the worst country in the world. It is one of the few countries supported by the West that can oppress non-Westerners without being called on it. Israel is no worse than Australia, but Australia has essentially eliminated the influence of the indigenous people. Israel is a bit unlucky, the Europeans have landed in an area where they control, are surrounded by indigenous people they don't control and these indigenous people just won't give up. So, they most come to an agreement.

I spent time in Israel visiting a first cousin who married an American Jew and moved to Israel with him. They eventually left Israel and settled in Majorca because they didn't like the life in Israel, but I learned quite a bit in my time there. No Israeli Jew considers a local non-Jew anywhere near equal to them. We visitor/tourist Christians are put on a different/higher level than the local Christians or Muslims. Even the famous Ariscrap cannot deny this. The Jews of Israel treat the local non-Jews more or less how the Americans of the south treated blacks in the 50s, or worse.