People's Peace Treaty proposal

You mean the Secretary General that was selected because he is a U.S. puppet?

I am willing to bet that most of the readers on this forum are Americans, and Americans are very street smart. They noticed that this Monte character (Haniya) came to this forum about the same time as Defeat67. Haniya didn't post much, but Defeat67 put up so many posts like he had diarrhea of the keyboard. Defeat67 disappeared (we all know why) and now shows up under Haniya's screen name and is following in his fashion as before -- one post after another trying, as so many Muslims do, to demonize Israel. Does Defeat67 have any interest at all in the tens of thousands of innocent people that have been and are still being murdered in the Middle East by his brethren or is his entire purpose for showing up is to continue demonizing Israel as if Israel was the worse, worse country on this planet.

This is quite entertaining, I enjoy this identity game. But, no. Israel is not the worst country in the world. It is one of the few countries supported by the West that can oppress non-Westerners without being called on it. Israel is no worse than Australia, but Australia has essentially eliminated the influence of the indigenous people. Israel is a bit unlucky, the Europeans have landed in an area where they control, are surrounded by indigenous people they don't control and these indigenous people just won't give up. So, they most come to an agreement.

I spent time in Israel visiting a first cousin who married an American Jew and moved to Israel with him. They eventually left Israel and settled in Majorca because they didn't like the life in Israel, but I learned quite a bit in my time there. No Israeli Jew considers a local non-Jew anywhere near equal to them. We visitor/tourist Christians are put on a different/higher level than the local Christians or Muslims. Even the famous Ariscrap cannot deny this. The Jews of Israel treat the local non-Jews more or less how the Americans of the south treated blacks in the 50s, or worse.

Don't care for the way Israelis treat Christians? Move to a Muslim Country. :badgrin:
 
I am willing to bet that most of the readers on this forum are Americans, and Americans are very street smart. They noticed that this Monte character (Haniya) came to this forum about the same time as Defeat67. Haniya didn't post much, but Defeat67 put up so many posts like he had diarrhea of the keyboard. Defeat67 disappeared (we all know why) and now shows up under Haniya's screen name and is following in his fashion as before -- one post after another trying, as so many Muslims do, to demonize Israel. Does Defeat67 have any interest at all in the tens of thousands of innocent people that have been and are still being murdered in the Middle East by his brethren or is his entire purpose for showing up is to continue demonizing Israel as if Israel was the worse, worse country on this planet.

This is quite entertaining, I enjoy this identity game. But, no. Israel is not the worst country in the world. It is one of the few countries supported by the West that can oppress non-Westerners without being called on it. Israel is no worse than Australia, but Australia has essentially eliminated the influence of the indigenous people. Israel is a bit unlucky, the Europeans have landed in an area where they control, are surrounded by indigenous people they don't control and these indigenous people just won't give up. So, they most come to an agreement.

I spent time in Israel visiting a first cousin who married an American Jew and moved to Israel with him. They eventually left Israel and settled in Majorca because they didn't like the life in Israel, but I learned quite a bit in my time there. No Israeli Jew considers a local non-Jew anywhere near equal to them. We visitor/tourist Christians are put on a different/higher level than the local Christians or Muslims. Even the famous Ariscrap cannot deny this. The Jews of Israel treat the local non-Jews more or less how the Americans of the south treated blacks in the 50s, or worse.

Don't care for the way Israelis treat Christians? Move to a Muslim Country. :badgrin:

Anyone came make up stories. Defeat67 is a Muslim and probably did move from a Muslim country to a European one as we do read about the Muslim flooding into Europe. As far as Christians, Defeat67 wants to close his eyes to the harassment and murders his own brethren commits because of their hatred toward Christians. And let us not forget all the churches his brethren have desecrated and destroyed. And did you notice the derogatory term he used for Aris. Aris knows so much more than Defeat67 having lived and worked in the Middle East,, and I think Defeat67 realizes this (but wouldn't admit it) and doesn't like Aris' presence here. Let's face it. Rocco knows so much more than Defeat67 so he can't stand Rocco's presence here either.
 
This is quite entertaining, I enjoy this identity game. But, no. Israel is not the worst country in the world. It is one of the few countries supported by the West that can oppress non-Westerners without being called on it. Israel is no worse than Australia, but Australia has essentially eliminated the influence of the indigenous people. Israel is a bit unlucky, the Europeans have landed in an area where they control, are surrounded by indigenous people they don't control and these indigenous people just won't give up. So, they most come to an agreement.

I spent time in Israel visiting a first cousin who married an American Jew and moved to Israel with him. They eventually left Israel and settled in Majorca because they didn't like the life in Israel, but I learned quite a bit in my time there. No Israeli Jew considers a local non-Jew anywhere near equal to them. We visitor/tourist Christians are put on a different/higher level than the local Christians or Muslims. Even the famous Ariscrap cannot deny this. The Jews of Israel treat the local non-Jews more or less how the Americans of the south treated blacks in the 50s, or worse.

Don't care for the way Israelis treat Christians? Move to a Muslim Country. :badgrin:

Anyone came make up stories. Defeat67 is a Muslim and probably did move from a Muslim country to a European one as we do read about the Muslim flooding into Europe. As far as Christians, Defeat67 wants to close his eyes to the harassment and murders his own brethren commits because of their hatred toward Christians. And let us not forget all the churches his brethren have desecrated and destroyed. And did you notice the derogatory term he used for Aris. Aris knows so much more than Defeat67 having lived and worked in the Middle East,, and I think Defeat67 realizes this (but wouldn't admit it) and doesn't like Aris' presence here. Let's face it. Rocco knows so much more than Defeat67 so he can't stand Rocco's presence here either.

today it was 4th C St Sergius, Maaloula
 
You mean the Secretary General that was selected because he is a U.S. puppet?

I am willing to bet that most of the readers on this forum are Americans, and Americans are very street smart. They noticed that this Monte character (Haniya) came to this forum about the same time as Defeat67. Haniya didn't post much, but Defeat67 put up so many posts like he had diarrhea of the keyboard. Defeat67 disappeared (we all know why) and now shows up under Haniya's screen name and is following in his fashion as before -- one post after another trying, as so many Muslims do, to demonize Israel. Does Defeat67 have any interest at all in the tens of thousands of innocent people that have been and are still being murdered in the Middle East by his brethren or is his entire purpose for showing up is to continue demonizing Israel as if Israel was the worse, worse country on this planet.

This is quite entertaining, I enjoy this identity game. But, no. Israel is not the worst country in the world. It is one of the few countries supported by the West that can oppress non-Westerners without being called on it. Israel is no worse than Australia, but Australia has essentially eliminated the influence of the indigenous people. Israel is a bit unlucky, the Europeans have landed in an area where they control, are surrounded by indigenous people they don't control and these indigenous people just won't give up. So, they most come to an agreement.

I spent time in Israel visiting a first cousin who married an American Jew and moved to Israel with him. They eventually left Israel and settled in Majorca because they didn't like the life in Israel, but I learned quite a bit in my time there. No Israeli Jew considers a local non-Jew anywhere near equal to them. We visitor/tourist Christians are put on a different/higher level than the local Christians or Muslims. Even the famous Ariscrap cannot deny this. The Jews of Israel treat the local non-Jews more or less how the Americans of the south treated blacks in the 50s, or worse.




STOP LYING you are no more a Christian than I am a muslim. You could not even recite the beatitudes, as for the decamoron I am still waiting. All Christians know these by heart as they are sung at just about every mass
 
I am willing to bet that most of the readers on this forum are Americans, and Americans are very street smart. They noticed that this Monte character (Haniya) came to this forum about the same time as Defeat67. Haniya didn't post much, but Defeat67 put up so many posts like he had diarrhea of the keyboard. Defeat67 disappeared (we all know why) and now shows up under Haniya's screen name and is following in his fashion as before -- one post after another trying, as so many Muslims do, to demonize Israel. Does Defeat67 have any interest at all in the tens of thousands of innocent people that have been and are still being murdered in the Middle East by his brethren or is his entire purpose for showing up is to continue demonizing Israel as if Israel was the worse, worse country on this planet.

This is quite entertaining, I enjoy this identity game. But, no. Israel is not the worst country in the world. It is one of the few countries supported by the West that can oppress non-Westerners without being called on it. Israel is no worse than Australia, but Australia has essentially eliminated the influence of the indigenous people. Israel is a bit unlucky, the Europeans have landed in an area where they control, are surrounded by indigenous people they don't control and these indigenous people just won't give up. So, they most come to an agreement.

I spent time in Israel visiting a first cousin who married an American Jew and moved to Israel with him. They eventually left Israel and settled in Majorca because they didn't like the life in Israel, but I learned quite a bit in my time there. No Israeli Jew considers a local non-Jew anywhere near equal to them. We visitor/tourist Christians are put on a different/higher level than the local Christians or Muslims. Even the famous Ariscrap cannot deny this. The Jews of Israel treat the local non-Jews more or less how the Americans of the south treated blacks in the 50s, or worse.




STOP LYING you are no more a Christian than I am a muslim. You could not even recite the beatitudes, as for the decamoron I am still waiting. All Christians know these by heart as they are sung at just about every mass

Ave, Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum, Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Jesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.
 
or:

Ave, Maria, piena di grazia, il Signore è con Te. Tu sei benedetta fra le donne e benedetto è il frutto del tuo seno, Gesù. Santa Maria, Madre di Dio, prega per noi peccatori, adesso e nell'ora della nostra morte. Amen.
 
And since I was a choir boy, I know this one and others more or less by heart, unfortunately it dates me since I know it in Latin.


Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth. Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini. Hosanna in excelsis.
 
This is quite entertaining, I enjoy this identity game. But, no. Israel is not the worst country in the world. It is one of the few countries supported by the West that can oppress non-Westerners without being called on it. Israel is no worse than Australia, but Australia has essentially eliminated the influence of the indigenous people. Israel is a bit unlucky, the Europeans have landed in an area where they control, are surrounded by indigenous people they don't control and these indigenous people just won't give up. So, they most come to an agreement.

I spent time in Israel visiting a first cousin who married an American Jew and moved to Israel with him. They eventually left Israel and settled in Majorca because they didn't like the life in Israel, but I learned quite a bit in my time there. No Israeli Jew considers a local non-Jew anywhere near equal to them. We visitor/tourist Christians are put on a different/higher level than the local Christians or Muslims. Even the famous Ariscrap cannot deny this. The Jews of Israel treat the local non-Jews more or less how the Americans of the south treated blacks in the 50s, or worse.




STOP LYING you are no more a Christian than I am a muslim. You could not even recite the beatitudes, as for the decamoron I am still waiting. All Christians know these by heart as they are sung at just about every mass

Ave, Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum, Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Jesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.

WRONG try again BINT
 
And since I was a choir boy, I know this one and others more or less by heart, unfortunately it dates me since I know it in Latin.


Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth. Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini. Hosanna in excelsis.


I did not ask for the rosary or the hail mary, I aske for the decamoron
 
This is my first post here! Any way, I'm very frustrated by the lack of progress being made in the peace process. As an American Jew and someone who has been to Israel on numerous visits, I am very familiar with the situation. Despite the actions of current politicians, I believe peace is possible. Not only is it possible, but the gap in differences is much narrower than we are led to believe. Additionally, some of it is the bickering of pure semantics, definition of words, lack of empathy of the other side, broken promises, impossible expectations, arbitrary starting points, etc.

I seriously believe that peace-minded people of both sides serious about peace can work out a detailed "People's Peace Treaty" and show the World that peace is possible, and that the politicians have failed us thus far in getting it done!

I've thought of answers to all the known sticking points. The solutions are not that complicated. I believe they should be agreeable to both sides. I'm also sure some of you have thought up some solutions of your own, as well. All these solutions could be discussed, debated on, improved, substituted, thrown out, added to, etc. over forums like these until an actual document is edited together and meshed out that could be proposed.

The first step is to get feedback - especially Palestinian feedback - on my ideas. Please, if you're Palestinian, introduce yourself. I'll start discussion and explain some ideas I have after that...

As you can see, you're in the wrong place for serious, objective discussion on the issue.
 
And since I was a choir boy, I know this one and others more or less by heart, unfortunately it dates me since I know it in Latin.


Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth. Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini. Hosanna in excelsis.


I did not ask for the rosary or the hail mary, I aske for the decamoron

It wasn't the Rosary you chump, the Sanctus is part of the Mass.

You are asking for Boccaccio's Decamerone (English Decameron) but I suspect you mean Dante's Divine Comedy and the first lines of L'Inferno (Hell).

Prima Giornata Decamerone

Quantunque volte, graziosissime donne, meco pensando riguardo quanto voi naturalmente: tutte siete pietose, tante conosco che la presente opera al vostro iudicio avrà grave e noioso principio, sì come è la dolorosa ricordazione della pestifera mortalità trapassata, universalmente a ciascuno che quella vide o altramenti conobbe dannosa, la quale essa porta nella fronte. Ma non voglio per ciò che questo di più avanti leggere vi spaventi, quasi sempre sospiri e tralle lagrime leggendo dobbiate trapassare. Questo orrido cominciamento vi fia non altramenti che a' camminanti una montagna aspra e erta, presso alla quale un bellissimo piano e dilettevole sia reposto, il quale tanto più viene lor piacevole quanto maggiore è stata del salire e dello smontare la gravezza. E sì come la estremità della allegrezza il dolore occupa, così le miserie da sopravegnente letizia sono terminate.





Beginning of l'Inferno


Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.

Ahi quanto a dir qual era è cosa dura
esta selva selvaggia e aspra e forte
che nel pensier rinova la paura!

Tant' è amara che poco è più morte;
ma per trattar del ben ch'i' vi trovai,
dirò de l'altre cose ch'i' v'ho scorte.
 
And since I was a choir boy, I know this one and others more or less by heart, unfortunately it dates me since I know it in Latin.


Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth. Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini. Hosanna in excelsis.


I did not ask for the rosary or the hail mary, I aske for the decamoron

It wasn't the Rosary you chump, the Sanctus is part of the Mass.

You are asking for Boccaccio's Decamerone (English Decameron) but I suspect you mean Dante's Divine Comedy and the first lines of L'Inferno (Hell).

Prima Giornata Decamerone

Quantunque volte, graziosissime donne, meco pensando riguardo quanto voi naturalmente: tutte siete pietose, tante conosco che la presente opera al vostro iudicio avrà grave e noioso principio, sì come è la dolorosa ricordazione della pestifera mortalità trapassata, universalmente a ciascuno che quella vide o altramenti conobbe dannosa, la quale essa porta nella fronte. Ma non voglio per ciò che questo di più avanti leggere vi spaventi, quasi sempre sospiri e tralle lagrime leggendo dobbiate trapassare. Questo orrido cominciamento vi fia non altramenti che a' camminanti una montagna aspra e erta, presso alla quale un bellissimo piano e dilettevole sia reposto, il quale tanto più viene lor piacevole quanto maggiore è stata del salire e dello smontare la gravezza. E sì come la estremità della allegrezza il dolore occupa, così le miserie da sopravegnente letizia sono terminate.





Beginning of l'Inferno


Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.

Ahi quanto a dir qual era è cosa dura
esta selva selvaggia e aspra e forte
che nel pensier rinova la paura!

Tant' è amara che poco è più morte;
ma per trattar del ben ch'i' vi trovai,
dirò de l'altre cose ch'i' v'ho scorte.

Isn't it great how people can look up stuff on the Internet and be anything they wish to be? Meanwhile, there is an awful lot of Taqiyya going on.

Could it also be that Haniya, a convert to Islam, is feeding Defeat67 some of his lines while he is posting under her screen name?
 
And since I was a choir boy, I know this one and others more or less by heart, unfortunately it dates me since I know it in Latin.


Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth. Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua. Hosanna in excelsis. Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini. Hosanna in excelsis.


I did not ask for the rosary or the hail mary, I aske for the decamoron

It wasn't the Rosary you chump, the Sanctus is part of the Mass.

You are asking for Boccaccio's Decamerone (English Decameron) but I suspect you mean Dante's Divine Comedy and the first lines of L'Inferno (Hell).

Prima Giornata Decamerone

Quantunque volte, graziosissime donne, meco pensando riguardo quanto voi naturalmente: tutte siete pietose, tante conosco che la presente opera al vostro iudicio avrà grave e noioso principio, sì come è la dolorosa ricordazione della pestifera mortalità trapassata, universalmente a ciascuno che quella vide o altramenti conobbe dannosa, la quale essa porta nella fronte. Ma non voglio per ciò che questo di più avanti leggere vi spaventi, quasi sempre sospiri e tralle lagrime leggendo dobbiate trapassare. Questo orrido cominciamento vi fia non altramenti che a' camminanti una montagna aspra e erta, presso alla quale un bellissimo piano e dilettevole sia reposto, il quale tanto più viene lor piacevole quanto maggiore è stata del salire e dello smontare la gravezza. E sì come la estremità della allegrezza il dolore occupa, così le miserie da sopravegnente letizia sono terminate.





Beginning of l'Inferno


Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.

Ahi quanto a dir qual era è cosa dura
esta selva selvaggia e aspra e forte
che nel pensier rinova la paura!

Tant' è amara che poco è più morte;
ma per trattar del ben ch'i' vi trovai,
dirò de l'altre cose ch'i' v'ho scorte.




Not even close, the Decameron is part of the Bible and is taught to good Catholic children till they are word perfect
 
I did not ask for the rosary or the hail mary, I aske for the decamoron

It wasn't the Rosary you chump, the Sanctus is part of the Mass.

You are asking for Boccaccio's Decamerone (English Decameron) but I suspect you mean Dante's Divine Comedy and the first lines of L'Inferno (Hell).

Prima Giornata Decamerone

Quantunque volte, graziosissime donne, meco pensando riguardo quanto voi naturalmente: tutte siete pietose, tante conosco che la presente opera al vostro iudicio avrà grave e noioso principio, sì come è la dolorosa ricordazione della pestifera mortalità trapassata, universalmente a ciascuno che quella vide o altramenti conobbe dannosa, la quale essa porta nella fronte. Ma non voglio per ciò che questo di più avanti leggere vi spaventi, quasi sempre sospiri e tralle lagrime leggendo dobbiate trapassare. Questo orrido cominciamento vi fia non altramenti che a' camminanti una montagna aspra e erta, presso alla quale un bellissimo piano e dilettevole sia reposto, il quale tanto più viene lor piacevole quanto maggiore è stata del salire e dello smontare la gravezza. E sì come la estremità della allegrezza il dolore occupa, così le miserie da sopravegnente letizia sono terminate.





Beginning of l'Inferno


Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.

Ahi quanto a dir qual era è cosa dura
esta selva selvaggia e aspra e forte
che nel pensier rinova la paura!

Tant' è amara che poco è più morte;
ma per trattar del ben ch'i' vi trovai,
dirò de l'altre cose ch'i' v'ho scorte.

Isn't it great how people can look up stuff on the Internet and be anything they wish to be? Meanwhile, there is an awful lot of Taqiyya going on.

Could it also be that Haniya, a convert to Islam, is feeding Defeat67 some of his lines while he is posting under her screen name?




Most likely, just waiting for the screen name to be deleted after the number of complaints the Mods are getting.
 
15th post
It wasn't the Rosary you chump, the Sanctus is part of the Mass.

You are asking for Boccaccio's Decamerone (English Decameron) but I suspect you mean Dante's Divine Comedy and the first lines of L'Inferno (Hell).

Prima Giornata Decamerone

Quantunque volte, graziosissime donne, meco pensando riguardo quanto voi naturalmente: tutte siete pietose, tante conosco che la presente opera al vostro iudicio avrà grave e noioso principio, sì come è la dolorosa ricordazione della pestifera mortalità trapassata, universalmente a ciascuno che quella vide o altramenti conobbe dannosa, la quale essa porta nella fronte. Ma non voglio per ciò che questo di più avanti leggere vi spaventi, quasi sempre sospiri e tralle lagrime leggendo dobbiate trapassare. Questo orrido cominciamento vi fia non altramenti che a' camminanti una montagna aspra e erta, presso alla quale un bellissimo piano e dilettevole sia reposto, il quale tanto più viene lor piacevole quanto maggiore è stata del salire e dello smontare la gravezza. E sì come la estremità della allegrezza il dolore occupa, così le miserie da sopravegnente letizia sono terminate.





Beginning of l'Inferno


Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.

Ahi quanto a dir qual era è cosa dura
esta selva selvaggia e aspra e forte
che nel pensier rinova la paura!

Tant' è amara che poco è più morte;
ma per trattar del ben ch'i' vi trovai,
dirò de l'altre cose ch'i' v'ho scorte.

Isn't it great how people can look up stuff on the Internet and be anything they wish to be? Meanwhile, there is an awful lot of Taqiyya going on.

Could it also be that Haniya, a convert to Islam, is feeding Defeat67 some of his lines while he is posting under her screen name?




Most likely, just waiting for the screen name to be deleted after the number of complaints the Mods are getting.

What could anyone complain about? I only post facts and rarely, if ever, respond in kind to the many personal attacks on me. Do you somehow think that free speech only includes supporting Israel here? You folks are living in a fantasy world, this forum is highly unusual in that it has attracted supporters of Israel for some reason. Go on normal Israel/Palestine forums. The racial abuse of Muslims you perpetrate here, is reason for banning on all other forums I've been.

Your problem is that I present facts, and these facts are inconvenient for supporters of Israel, so you would like to kill the messenger.
 
Isn't it great how people can look up stuff on the Internet and be anything they wish to be? Meanwhile, there is an awful lot of Taqiyya going on.

Could it also be that Haniya, a convert to Islam, is feeding Defeat67 some of his lines while he is posting under her screen name?




Most likely, just waiting for the screen name to be deleted after the number of complaints the Mods are getting.

What could anyone complain about? I only post facts and rarely, if ever, respond in kind to the many personal attacks on me. Do you somehow think that free speech only includes supporting Israel here? You folks are living in a fantasy world, this forum is highly unusual in that it has attracted supporters of Israel for some reason. Go on normal Israel/Palestine forums. The racial abuse of Muslims you perpetrate here, is reason for banning on all other forums I've been.

Your problem is that I present facts, and these facts are inconvenient for supporters of Israel, so you would like to kill the messenger.

Anyone can post things that they want others to think are facts, especially when these facts are only someone else's opinion. Your problem, Defeat67, is that you are under the impression that most of the readers here are foolish enough to believe the nonsense you post so you keep on posting away like there is no tomorrow. I guess on the other forums that Defeat67 posts on to demonize Israel, the participants have the same mind set as he does. I imagine he doesn't like to see supporters of Israel on this forum. he would rather it be like the other forums in which he participates, which no doubt are hate fests against Israel. If this guy is on so many other forums. I guess his main purpose in life is to demonize the Israelis -- just like other Muslims do.
 
As far as both the Decamerone and Inferno, they are written in archaic Florentine almost Vulgar Latin. I can translate them into modern Tuscan or Italian (which are very similar except for a few words), if you would like. Would that help you make up your minds?

Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
Nel mezzo del cammino della nostra vita

mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
Note: "per" can still be used today and translates to "about" the woods/forest today whereas in means "within" the woods/forest.

ché la diritta via era smarrita.
dentro di cui ho perso la strada

Ahi quanto a dir qual era è cosa dura
Ahimè era cosi' difficile dirlo

esta selva selvaggia e aspra e forte
questa foresta selvaggia, aspra e forte

etc. etc.
 
Most likely, just waiting for the screen name to be deleted after the number of complaints the Mods are getting.

What could anyone complain about? I only post facts and rarely, if ever, respond in kind to the many personal attacks on me. Do you somehow think that free speech only includes supporting Israel here? You folks are living in a fantasy world, this forum is highly unusual in that it has attracted supporters of Israel for some reason. Go on normal Israel/Palestine forums. The racial abuse of Muslims you perpetrate here, is reason for banning on all other forums I've been.

Your problem is that I present facts, and these facts are inconvenient for supporters of Israel, so you would like to kill the messenger.

Anyone can post things that they want others to think are facts, especially when these facts are only someone else's opinion. Your problem, Defeat67, is that you are under the impression that most of the readers here are foolish enough to believe the nonsense you post so you keep on posting away like there is no tomorrow. I guess on the other forums that Defeat67 posts on to demonize Israel, the participants have the same mind set as he does. I imagine he doesn't like to see supporters of Israel on this forum. he would rather it be like the other forums in which he participates, which no doubt are hate fests against Israel. If this guy is on so many other forums. I guess his main purpose in life is to demonize the Israelis -- just like other Muslims do.

"most of the readers here are foolish"

No, most have been conditioned by the media that is available in the U.S. In the U.S. the media is very careful to limit or refrain from publishing or transmitting anything that is critical of Israel. The education system teaches American children that poor little Israel (good guys) fought off the big bad Muslims (bad guys). Very little mention is made that these good guys attacked, killed and dispossessed not only the Moooslims, but also the Christians indigenous people. Then the internet propagates the lie that the "Arabs" are recent arrivals, when the truth is that the Europeans are the recent arrivals. So with those lies ingrained in your minds, of course it is difficult for you to be objective.
 

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