People assume because you are GAY

[ChristisKing]

That is rubbish. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? If they are /ADOPTIVE/ parents, how can they be your birth parents too? Apparently you do not understand that some words fall under context, the general and the specific:

For instance, a 1-star general is a /TYPE/ of general, a Brigadier General, as a subset of generals, but a true general, a FULL general, is known by no other name--- GENERAL, a four star general, yet they are goth generals.

Strictly speaking, your true parents are your birthing parents. That can never change. You are their offspring. A DNA test can prove it. But if for whatever reason, they had to give you up for adoption, then the people who adopted you became your surrogate parents, your adoptive parents. They became your legal guardians and raised you and are in every way now your new parents except one: they did not give birth to you, there is no DNA link to them, so there is always that distinction semantically with your true, original, biological parents.

This is not a matter of debate nor conjecture, but a semantical fact. Sorry if that rocks your world, but that is how it works.

Being one's true parents and biological parents are not the same thing.

 

[toobfreak]

Being one's true parents and biological parents are not the same thing.

I get the feeling you are lost in semantics. True parent means original parent, but I get the feeling you take it to mean one's actual, functioning parent. There is a distinction.

As a writer and a wordsmith, I deal in the exact meaning or words so tend to look at their meaning narrowly.

I get that. Being adopted must be an emotional event and a great deal of loyalty must be felt owed to the adopting parents because after all, these people have spent their lives raising you and they are the only people you ever knew, hence to you, they are your true parents.

But they are not your actual biological parents.

 

[ChristisKing]

I get the feeling you are lost in semantics. True parent means original parent, but I get the feeling you take it to mean one's actual, functioning parent. There is a distinction.

As a writer and a wordsmith, I deal in the exact meaning or words so tend to look at their meaning narrowly.

I get that. Being adopted must be an emotional event and a great deal of loyalty must be felt owed to the adopting parents because after all, these people have spent their lives raising you and they are the only people you ever knew, hence to you, they are your true parents.

But they are not your actual biological parents.

Yes you just have to be careful how to word that because I felt like that it was attack on them and I get highly defensive about that.

 

[toobfreak]

Yes you just have to be careful how to word that because I felt like that it was attack on them and I get highly defensive about that.

It is no attack to state the fact that they did not give birth to you, so are not your (true) original, birthing parents. But then, whatever happened, those people did next to nothing to raise you (you may not even know who those people were, maybe never met them, maybe something bad happened and they were killed or had to give you up) and at 1 year old, your adoptive parents adopted you, took on responsibility for you, and have spent the past 35 years raising you, so for all intents and purposes, are your parents by any definition you care to accept.

But I deal in the strict linguistics of words so they are still by strict definition your /adoptive/ parents and not your birthing parents.

 

[ChristisKing]

For the record I never met my birth father as he died when I was a little kid. Fell off a cliff. My biological mother was single and couldn't raise me herself so I was a foster child at six weeks old and officially adopted at one.

 

[BlackSand]

People assume because you are GAY that you can't be conservative in areas. You have to be a hard core leftist!

Me, I dress fully and never would walk down the street in the way you stereo type us. I respect the children and believe in decency.
I believe in two parent families
I believe in standing by your family and children
I believe in marriage
I believe in the second and first amendments.
I believe in borders and that illegal immigration is wrong

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Most of what you have expressed is Modern Conservatism ... Not Conservatism.

Conservatism would be the last two points you made ... And only because they are supported by the Constitution ...
Either in limits applied towards the Government ... Or duties assigned to the government as a Sovereign Nation of Laws.

While all the other issues would be Modern Conservative in nature ...
But are none of the Federal Government's business to start with ...
And to try and make them the Federal Government's business would expand its Power ...
Which isn't really Conservative at all.

That's why as a Classical Liberal ... Not at all a Progressive Liberal ...
I am more Conservative than a Modern Conservative.

I desire to limit the Federal Government's Power ... And keep that Power in the People ...
In their States and their Local Communities.

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[The Sage of Main Street]

It is no attack to state the fact that they did not give birth to you, so are not your (true) original, birthing parents. But then, whatever happened, those people did next to nothing to raise you (you may not even know who those people were, maybe never met them, maybe something bad happened and they were killed or had to give you up) and at 1 year old, your adoptive parents adopted you, took on responsibility for you, and have spent the past 35 years raising you, so for all intents and purposes, are your parents by any definition you care to accept.

But I deal in the strict linguistics of words so they are still by strict definition your /adoptive/ parents and not your birthing parents.

Ban the Sperm Lottery

We ought to use the expressions "birth heir" and "competition heir." For example, a Hall of Fame athlete's "competition heir" would be the most talented of the next generation, not his son.

Things will continue to go downhill for us unless we give trust funds and inherited wealth to the most naturally talented of the next generation instead of wasting it on the birth heirs.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yes you just have to be careful how to word that because I felt like that it was attack on them and I get highly defensive about that.

Diploma Dumbos Squirm When I Prove Their Obvious Mental Inferiority

All this insincere fuss over pronouns does not bother to define them as "personal pronouns." Nobody should call them on that. It is elliptically implied.

However, sincere grammarians should point out that the same hypocrites have no problem with the mind-warping usage of "they" with a singular antecedent.

 

[otto105]

To be a parent, you have to have given birth to the child.


Then you understand that the definition of a marriage as understood for thousands of years is a holy matrimony before God of a man and wife coming together to have children. A gay couple can only have a civil union, though in the past decade, DEI types have tried to blur the definitions.

So, no adoption even for infertile women?

 

[ChristisKing]

Diploma Dumbos Squirm When I Prove Their Obvious Mental Inferiority

All this insincere fuss over pronouns does not bother to define them as "personal pronouns." Nobody should call them on that. It is elliptically implied.

However, sincere grammarians should point out that the same hypocrites have no problem with the mind-warping usage of "they" with a singular antecedent.

What are you even talking about? This is absolutely nothing to do with pronouns.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

What are you even talking about? This is absolutely nothing to do with pronouns.

Pathetic Attempt to Deflect from the Disgrace of Netrix Grammar

It is narrow-minded to exclude analogies to this quibbling over birth parents and adoptive parents. An analogy brings things into a perspective that is free from irrelevant personal bias.

 

[ChristisKing]

Pathetic Attempt to Deflect from the Disgrace of Netrix Grammar

It is narrow-minded to exclude analogies to this quibbling over birth parents and adoptive parents. An analogy brings things into a perspective that is free from irrelevant personal bias.

English please. Especially since I have developmental learning disabilities.

 

[ChristisKing]

The Sage of Main Street, is that a no?

 

[MayorQuimby]

English please. Especially since I have developmental learning disabilities.

Lol! Are you serious? I like your candor.

 

[Winco]

To be a parent, you have to have given birth to the child.

Nope, but you continue to be an idiot.

To be a Mother or a Father, or just a 'Parent'.....read on idiot.

To be a 'Parent' you have to be raising that child.
To be a Mother, you have to have given birth to that child.
To be a Father, you had to be the DNA of that child.

******* retard.

Straight or otherwise, how can you be the biological parents of a child if you didn't give birth to it?

Oh, throughout the thread, I see you changed your words to "biological parents"

See POST#41.

 

[toobfreak]

Nope, but you continue to be an idiot.

Sure, Wimpy, if you say so. Your cracked opinion matters a lot to me.

To be a 'Parent' you have to be raising that child.
To be a Mother, you have to have given birth to that child.
To be a Father, you had to be the DNA of that child.

No, Stupid, strictly speaking (as I always do) to be the father of a child, you need to have /fathered/ the child by inseminating your mother.
To be the Mother of a child, you need to have given birth to the child.
To be the Parent of a child, in the strict sense, you need to be A or B above.
When you say /PARENT/ without any other qualifier, the default assumption is that you mean BIRTH Parent or TRUE parent.

Of course, if you just adopt, you are a parent in a different (general) sense, you are the /ADOPTIVE/ parent, or legal guardian.

It is that simple, moron--- if you gave birth to the child, you are the parent in every sense of the word, but if you merely raise the child, you are the parent only in certain senses of the word.

I thought they taught this in grade school, you must have missed out making your first million.

 

[braalian]

you need to have /fathered/ the child by inseminating your mother.

Freudian slip?

 

[toobfreak]

Freudian slip?

Not at all. Same pronoun used twice but in two different senses, subjective and objective.
Thought that was pretty obvious.
Didn't they teach you anything in school?

I bet you are one of those kids the PS graduated just to get rid of you.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Not at all. Same pronoun used twice but in two different senses, subjective and objective.
Thought that was pretty obvious.
Didn't they teach you anything in school?

I bet you are one of those kids the PS graduated just to get rid of you.

Lol dude you crack me up.

 

[ChristisKing]

Lol! Are you serious? I like your candor.

Yes and thanks I guess.