Peer Reviewed Paper Brings Up Interesting Questions...

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Here are some of the more interesting statements...Not much left for me to say.

http://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/...-for-wise-policy-advice-2167-0587-1000155.pdf

“It is widely promulgated and believed that human-caused global warming comes with increases in both the intensity and frequency of extreme weather events. A survey of official weather sites and the scientific literature provides strong evidence that the first half of the 20th century had more extreme weather than the second half, when anthropogenic global warming is claimed to have been mainly responsible for observed climate change. The disconnect between real-world historical data on the 100 years’ time scale and the current predictions provides a real conundrum when any engineer tries to make a professional assessment of the real future value of any infrastructure project which aims to mitigate or adapt to climate change. What is the appropriate basis on which to make judgements when theory and data are in such disagreement?


The compilation of temperature records are a source of problematic methodology of a kind not seen elsewhere in science. Under the umbrella term of “homogenisation”, there now seem to be a growing myriad of post-hoc adjustments to the original raw data that all seem to go in one direction, namely to increase the overall rate of global warming. This happens even on official websites. The total change is often somewhat greater than the 0.8-1ºC rise over the 20th century that is agreed by most people, critics or not. This is exemplified by data in Figure 4. This makes the problem of dispassionate engineering assessment almost impossible to achieve. Hansen (1981) wrote : “A remarkable conclusion from Figure 3 is that the global temperature is almost as high today as it was in 1940.” It is not clear now why this should be remarkable, although at the time, the rise in temperature from about 1975 had cancelled out some of the cooling since 1940 in the then available data. At the time, he [Hansen] showed 1980 temperatures were about 0.15ºC cooler than 1940. Now, NASA shows 1980 temperatures about 0.2ºC warmer than 1940. They have made a relative shift of +0.35ºC, and the adjustment represents ~40% of the century variation. The lesson from this is that the data integrity for claiming extreme events needs to shown to be of the highest order, and that the results claimed do not depend on the data manipulation itself.”


Maybe the chickens are coming home to roost...lets hope so, anyway.
 
Let us know when they've landed.

From the paper
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Kelly MJ* Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK *Corresponding author: Kelly MJ, Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK, Tel: +44 (0) 1223 33300; Email: [email protected] Received date: Jan 25, 2016; Accepted date: Feb 15, 2016; Published date: Feb 17, 2016
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This appears to have been written by one man, an engineer. I see no one listed as reviewer. And between submission and acceptance took 20 days.
 
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Let us know when they've landed.

From the paper
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Kelly MJ* Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK *Corresponding author: Kelly MJ, Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK, Tel: +44 (0) 1223 33300; Email: [email protected] Received date: Jan 25, 2016; Accepted date: Feb 15, 2016; Published date: Feb 17, 2016
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This appears to have been written by one man, an engineer. I see no one listed as reviewer. And between submission and acceptance took 20 days.
My team and I reviewed, we found it solid. You need not worry about it.
 
Let us know when they've landed.

From the paper
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Kelly MJ* Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK *Corresponding author: Kelly MJ, Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK, Tel: +44 (0) 1223 33300; Email: [email protected] Received date: Jan 25, 2016; Accepted date: Feb 15, 2016; Published date: Feb 17, 2016
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This appears to have been written by one man, an engineer. I see no one listed as reviewer. And between submission and acceptance took 20 days.
My team and I reviewed, we found it solid. You need not worry about it.


We need not worry? The sky is falling man!

Just take a gander at this!

A Complete List Of Things Supposedly Caused By Global Warming
 
Let us know when they've landed.

From the paper
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Kelly MJ* Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK *Corresponding author: Kelly MJ, Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK, Tel: +44 (0) 1223 33300; Email: [email protected] Received date: Jan 25, 2016; Accepted date: Feb 15, 2016; Published date: Feb 17, 2016
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This appears to have been written by one man, an engineer. I see no one listed as reviewer. And between submission and acceptance took 20 days.
My team and I reviewed, we found it solid. You need not worry about it.


We need not worry? The sky is falling man!

Just take a gander at this!

A Complete List Of Things Supposedly Caused By Global Warming
 
"Journal of Geography and Natural Disasters" is part of the India-based OMIC group, which publishes a whole bunch of pay-to-publish journals. You send 'em the money, they'll find a "reviewer" and publish your paper. Such journals are where most denier "science" gets published these days.
 
"Journal of Geography and Natural Disasters" is part of the India-based OMIC group, which publishes a whole bunch of pay-to-publish journals. You send 'em the money, they'll find a "reviewer" and publish your paper. Such journals are where most denier "science" gets published these days.

You mean like the Best paper that you and yours so whole heartedly believe in and reference without reservation?.....laughing in your stupid face hairball.
 
OMICS Publishing Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OMICS Publishing Group
is a publisher of open access journals that is widely regarded as predatory.[2][3][4][5][6][7] It is part of the OMICS Group, based in Hyderabad, India.[8][5] It issued its first publication in 2008.[9] According to a 2012 article in The Chronicle of Higher Education about 60 percent of the group's 200 journals had never actually published anything.[10]

Academics and the United States government have questioned the validity of peer review by OMICS journals, the appropriateness of author fees and marketing, and the apparent advertising of the names of scientists as journal editors or conference speakers without their knowledge or permission.[3][4][5][6][7] As a result, the U.S. National Institutes of Health does not accept OMICS publications for listing in PubMed Central and sent a cease-and-desist letter to OMICS in 2013, demanding that OMICS discontinue false claims of affiliation with U.S. government entities or employees.[6] OMICS has responded to criticisms by avowing a commitment to open access publishing, claiming that detractors are traditional subscription-based publishers who feel threatened by their open access publishing model,[11] and threatening a prominent critic with a US$1 billion lawsuit.[

Peer reviewed? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
OMICS Publishing Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OMICS Publishing Group
is a publisher of open access journals that is widely regarded as predatory.[2][3][4][5][6][7] It is part of the OMICS Group, based in Hyderabad, India.[8][5] It issued its first publication in 2008.[9] According to a 2012 article in The Chronicle of Higher Education about 60 percent of the group's 200 journals had never actually published anything.[10]

Academics and the United States government have questioned the validity of peer review by OMICS journals, the appropriateness of author fees and marketing, and the apparent advertising of the names of scientists as journal editors or conference speakers without their knowledge or permission.[3][4][5][6][7] As a result, the U.S. National Institutes of Health does not accept OMICS publications for listing in PubMed Central and sent a cease-and-desist letter to OMICS in 2013, demanding that OMICS discontinue false claims of affiliation with U.S. government entities or employees.[6] OMICS has responded to criticisms by avowing a commitment to open access publishing, claiming that detractors are traditional subscription-based publishers who feel threatened by their open access publishing model,[11] and threatening a prominent critic with a US$1 billion lawsuit.[

Peer reviewed? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
health institute? how does that correlate to climate and warm temperature adjustments
 
OMICS Publishing Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OMICS Publishing Group
is a publisher of open access journals that is widely regarded as predatory.[2][3][4][5][6][7] It is part of the OMICS Group, based in Hyderabad, India.[8][5] It issued its first publication in 2008.[9] According to a 2012 article in The Chronicle of Higher Education about 60 percent of the group's 200 journals had never actually published anything.[10]

Academics and the United States government have questioned the validity of peer review by OMICS journals, the appropriateness of author fees and marketing, and the apparent advertising of the names of scientists as journal editors or conference speakers without their knowledge or permission.[3][4][5][6][7] As a result, the U.S. National Institutes of Health does not accept OMICS publications for listing in PubMed Central and sent a cease-and-desist letter to OMICS in 2013, demanding that OMICS discontinue false claims of affiliation with U.S. government entities or employees.[6] OMICS has responded to criticisms by avowing a commitment to open access publishing, claiming that detractors are traditional subscription-based publishers who feel threatened by their open access publishing model,[11] and threatening a prominent critic with a US$1 billion lawsuit.[

Peer reviewed? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
health institute? how does that correlate to climate and warm temperature adjustments

I couldn't help but note that after he attacked the journal...he had nothing to say about the report itself...particularly [ At the time, he [Hansen] showed 1980 temperatures were about 0.15ºC cooler than 1940. Now, NASA shows 1980 temperatures about 0.2ºC warmer than 1940. They have made a relative shift of +0.35ºC, and the adjustment represents ~40% of the century variation.]

They don't really like to talk about all of the adjustments required to fabricate their "rapid" warming...and they really don't like to talk about the excuses for the adjustments...as if we didn't know how to read a thermometer back in the dark ages of 1980...
 
The major difficulty in accepting this theory has been the absence of observed warming coincident with the historic CO2 increase. In fact, the temperature ir the Northern Hemisphere decreased by about 0.5°C between 1940 and 1970 (9), a time of rapid CO2 buildup. In addition, recent claims that climate models overestimate the impact of radiative perturbations by an order of magnitude (10, 11) have raised the issue of whether the greenhouse effect is well understood.

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1981/1981_Hansen_etal_1.pdf

Now if one wants to cherry pick data, you can find this paragraph in Dr. Hansen's 1981 paper, which is linked at the bottom of the paragraph. Not that you would bother to read it, or are even capable of understanding it.
 
OMICS Publishing Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OMICS Publishing Group
is a publisher of open access journals that is widely regarded as predatory.[2][3][4][5][6][7] It is part of the OMICS Group, based in Hyderabad, India.[8][5] It issued its first publication in 2008.[9] According to a 2012 article in The Chronicle of Higher Education about 60 percent of the group's 200 journals had never actually published anything.[10]

Academics and the United States government have questioned the validity of peer review by OMICS journals, the appropriateness of author fees and marketing, and the apparent advertising of the names of scientists as journal editors or conference speakers without their knowledge or permission.[3][4][5][6][7] As a result, the U.S. National Institutes of Health does not accept OMICS publications for listing in PubMed Central and sent a cease-and-desist letter to OMICS in 2013, demanding that OMICS discontinue false claims of affiliation with U.S. government entities or employees.[6] OMICS has responded to criticisms by avowing a commitment to open access publishing, claiming that detractors are traditional subscription-based publishers who feel threatened by their open access publishing model,[11] and threatening a prominent critic with a US$1 billion lawsuit.[

Peer reviewed? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAhahahaaa WONderful! Oh Jeez, that is just perfect.
 
I couldn't help but note that after he attacked the journal...he had nothing to say about the report itself.

He didn't attack the journal. He absolutely destroyed it. And made you look like a complete, doddering FOOL.
 
Too funny...

The Skeptical Science crayon kids are spouting more bull shit from the liars-r-us SKS site. THey are using the magical CO2 fairy dust that makes CO2 do things it cant do...

RCP 8.5: The “Mother of all” Junk Climate Science

Representative Concentration (or Carbon)Pathway 8.5 assumes a “rising radiative forcing pathway leading to 8.5 W/m² in 2100.” It is generally assumed, with little dissent, that each doubling of the atmospheric CO2 concentration will add 3.7 W/m² to the net infrared radiative flux.

A doubling of the supposedly stable pre-industrial CO2 level (280 ppmv to 560 ppmv) should yield 3.7 W/m² of additional forcing to the net infrared radiative flux. In order to get 8.5 W/m², the atmospheric CO2 concentration would have to rise to 1,370 ppm…

Funny that the increase of energy was only 0.38W/m^2....1/100th of their prediction. The SKS crayon kids.... Mann must have been their teacher.
 
Here are some of the more interesting statements...Not much left for me to say.

http://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/...-for-wise-policy-advice-2167-0587-1000155.pdf

“It is widely promulgated and believed that human-caused global warming comes with increases in both the intensity and frequency of extreme weather events. A survey of official weather sites and the scientific literature provides strong evidence that the first half of the 20th century had more extreme weather than the second half, when anthropogenic global warming is claimed to have been mainly responsible for observed climate change. The disconnect between real-world historical data on the 100 years’ time scale and the current predictions provides a real conundrum when any engineer tries to make a professional assessment of the real future value of any infrastructure project which aims to mitigate or adapt to climate change. What is the appropriate basis on which to make judgements when theory and data are in such disagreement?


The compilation of temperature records are a source of problematic methodology of a kind not seen elsewhere in science. Under the umbrella term of “homogenisation”, there now seem to be a growing myriad of post-hoc adjustments to the original raw data that all seem to go in one direction, namely to increase the overall rate of global warming. This happens even on official websites. The total change is often somewhat greater than the 0.8-1ºC rise over the 20th century that is agreed by most people, critics or not. This is exemplified by data in Figure 4. This makes the problem of dispassionate engineering assessment almost impossible to achieve. Hansen (1981) wrote : “A remarkable conclusion from Figure 3 is that the global temperature is almost as high today as it was in 1940.” It is not clear now why this should be remarkable, although at the time, the rise in temperature from about 1975 had cancelled out some of the cooling since 1940 in the then available data. At the time, he [Hansen] showed 1980 temperatures were about 0.15ºC cooler than 1940. Now, NASA shows 1980 temperatures about 0.2ºC warmer than 1940. They have made a relative shift of +0.35ºC, and the adjustment represents ~40% of the century variation. The lesson from this is that the data integrity for claiming extreme events needs to shown to be of the highest order, and that the results claimed do not depend on the data manipulation itself.”


Maybe the chickens are coming home to roost...lets hope so, anyway.

Nice that they would quantify the manipulations for us..
 
Is that from SSDD's peer reviewed article by a leading climate scientist or the shite he actually posted.
 
haven't seen anything like an actual rebuttal.....but then, I never expected to see one...
 
Let us know when they've landed.

From the paper
***********************************************************************************
Kelly MJ* Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK *Corresponding author: Kelly MJ, Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, 9 JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA, UK, Tel: +44 (0) 1223 33300; Email: [email protected] Received date: Jan 25, 2016; Accepted date: Feb 15, 2016; Published date: Feb 17, 2016
***********************************************************************************
This appears to have been written by one man, an engineer. I see no one listed as reviewer. And between submission and acceptance took 20 days.

Nooo.. There's no engineering disciplines in "climate science".. Those models all build themselves.. And only climate scientist know about statistical processing of data sets and how to condition and prepare temperature data..


:uhoh3:
 

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