Pedophilia Deserves Civil Rights, Says New York Times’ Op-ed

[Slyhunter]

Only if the blacks admitted they wanted to commit acts of violence. Your logic doesn't fly.

But that's nothing new.

Actually I had some that did exactly that. That street lingo is full of potential violent criminal acts. *****! I'll slap that grin right off of your face!

 

[koshergrl]

To DIAGNOSE a pedophile without some evidence of child abuse is like trying to DIAGNOSE an alcoholic who's never had a weekly bender.. No patient history -- no disease.

DIAGNOSE. Here's the scene, a patient sitting in the psychologist's office:

Patient: "Doc, all of my sexual fantasies are focused on 10 year old boys. I know it's wrong, I always avoid being alone with children, I don't want to hurt any child, but when I'm alone I think about those naked boys and me on a desert island, blah blah blah. What can I do to stop fixating on naked 10 year old boys? Help me please.​

You're telling me that this guy is not a pedophile in your books?

This guy is a pedophile but he's not a child molester. Like the op-ed writer noted, pedophilia is a diagnosis, not a crime. Child abuse is the crime.

Let's handle the Last part first. The guy MAY BE a pedophile, but he's gonna be a child molester BEFORE he gets his official pedophile diploma when this "intervention" fails.

From the quotes got that posted about what TOOLS the shrink has to use we know ---

1) TALKING the guy out this state is futile.
2) The "doc" is NOT gonna escalate to chemical castration or sedation without shitloads of further evidence.
3) This is the BEGINNING of diagnosis and is insufficient to leap to conclusions.

What is this guys age, life situation, previous mental history?
What is the story of his sexual activity?
Has he obtained child porn or catalogued potential children for his own purposes?
Has he associated with OTHERS who have the same fantasies?
What OTHER fantasies might this person have?

All leading up to the assessment of what COMMITMENTS the person has made to start ILLEGAL activities associated with child abuse.

It COULD eventually lead to a diagnosis of pedophilia, but there is no meaningful treatment until there is an ACT or specific INTENT towards child abuse. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

My first thought wouldn't be pedophile due to highly specific nature of what he's attracted to. As in specificly 10 year old boys. I'd be thinking some kind of OCD before pedophilia.

Also being attracted and having fantasies isn't a problem. If we could read each other's minds what we all fantasize about would cause riots and the end of civilization. It's not what you fantasize about that's ever a problem, only what you do.

That's exactly what all the "pedophilia is a sexual orientation, let's not make them uncomfortable!" people claim!

You mean the people at Harvard?

As a matter of fact, yes!

 

[koshergrl]

Only if the blacks admitted they wanted to commit acts of violence. Your logic doesn't fly.

But that's nothing new.

Actually I had some that did exactly that. That street lingo is full of potential violent criminal acts. *****! I'll slap that grin off of your face!

If you spoke that way, I wouldn't hire you.

See how that works?

 

[koshergrl]

Not only would I assume you were violent, I would also assume you're a dumbass. And I don't hire dumbass violent pieces of shit pedophiles.

 

[Asclepias]

Because I said so. I dont care what others feel. I'm not a pedo.

You want to exercise your right to choose your own associations but you're content to deny people the very same right to choose their own associations.

Sorry, life doesn't work that way, there are no special rules which apply only to you. Maybe you should get behind this notion "I disagree with what you say but I shall defend to the death your right to speak your mind" and substitute free association in place of free speech. This way everyone has the right to free association restored to them.

Until you support human rights, I will find happiness in the thought of you being forced to work alongside a pedophile. Just thinking about that forced association makes me smile.

Youre wrong. Life does work that way. If I caught a pedo he would not be long for this earth. Sorry to bust your bubble but you wont ever get to smile. i work for myself not someone else so I pick who I work with and when I work with them.

So you wouldn't blame me if I felt the same way about homo's then? I shouldn't be forced to work with one if I don't want to or make a cake for them either for that matter.

Why would I blame you? I'd think you were dumb since it didn't affect you or a child. Maybe that's why there is a law against it and not for pedos.

But we are talking about men who were born with an attraction to having sex with children but who have not actually even tried to have sex with a child, because they know it's wrong or whatever. IE men who have never harmed a child who simply want help in keeping it that way.

If it's ok for you to not work with someone, who has never hurt a child, that is a pedophile, then it should be ok for me to not work with someone, who has never hurt anyone, that is a homo.

Gay people dont hurt children by following their sexual urges. Pedos do.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Only if the blacks admitted they wanted to commit acts of violence. Your logic doesn't fly.

But that's nothing new.

You are dumb

Being a pedo is not a crime. Acting on those urges is.

Have you ever thought "I'd like to kill so and so?" Of course you have, everyone has, unless you actually attempt to act on those thoughts, no harm no foul.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Youre wrong. Life does work that way. If I caught a pedo he would not be long for this earth. Sorry to bust your bubble but you wont ever get to smile. i work for myself not someone else so I pick who I work with and when I work with them.

So you wouldn't blame me if I felt the same way about homo's then? I shouldn't be forced to work with one if I don't want to or make a cake for them either for that matter.

Why would I blame you? I'd think you were dumb since it didn't affect you or a child. Maybe that's why there is a law against it and not for pedos.

But we are talking about men who were born with an attraction to having sex with children but who have not actually even tried to have sex with a child, because they know it's wrong or whatever. IE men who have never harmed a child who simply want help in keeping it that way.

If it's ok for you to not work with someone, who has never hurt a child, that is a pedophile, then it should be ok for me to not work with someone, who has never hurt anyone, that is a homo.

Personally, if I felt the inclination to have sex with children, I'd kill myself. For real.

How about if you were attracted to men?
If you were my child I would disown you.

That you can't, or won't, distinguish between a consensual adult relationship and a child rape is not my problem.

 

[Asclepias]

Get another job.

As I suspected you're too chickenshit to admit your hypocrisy.

Its not hypocrisy. If we were talking apples to apples I could see your point.

It is apples to apples. Either we can discriminate or we can't. Any law that says "only sometimes you can't discriminate" is unconstitutional as it affords special protections to SOME people.

For possibly the first time in your posting history, be honest and admit the truth.

Bullshit. Everyone discriminates. Some forms are legal and others are not. You discriminate when you choose to speak to some people and not to others. A person that is a pedo is potentially dangerous specifically to children. A Black person is not specifically dangerous to anyone. Its not apples to apples.

I think you are getting confused. If I didn't want to serve gay people for instance, I wouldn't but I would not whine about the consequences of my actions either.

We're talking about the law here retard.

If the law allows you to discriminate against a pedo, it should allow me to discriminate against a black man PERIOD end of story. Nowhere in the law does it say "you can discriminate if you think the person might be dangerous"

Stop being dishonest.

No its not period end of story. Pedos hurt children specifically. Black people dont. You show me were your post makes any amount of sense retard.

 

[Slyhunter]

You want to exercise your right to choose your own associations but you're content to deny people the very same right to choose their own associations.

Sorry, life doesn't work that way, there are no special rules which apply only to you. Maybe you should get behind this notion "I disagree with what you say but I shall defend to the death your right to speak your mind" and substitute free association in place of free speech. This way everyone has the right to free association restored to them.

Until you support human rights, I will find happiness in the thought of you being forced to work alongside a pedophile. Just thinking about that forced association makes me smile.

Youre wrong. Life does work that way. If I caught a pedo he would not be long for this earth. Sorry to bust your bubble but you wont ever get to smile. i work for myself not someone else so I pick who I work with and when I work with them.

So you wouldn't blame me if I felt the same way about homo's then? I shouldn't be forced to work with one if I don't want to or make a cake for them either for that matter.

Why would I blame you? I'd think you were dumb since it didn't affect you or a child. Maybe that's why there is a law against it and not for pedos.

But we are talking about men who were born with an attraction to having sex with children but who have not actually even tried to have sex with a child, because they know it's wrong or whatever. IE men who have never harmed a child who simply want help in keeping it that way.

If it's ok for you to not work with someone, who has never hurt a child, that is a pedophile, then it should be ok for me to not work with someone, who has never hurt anyone, that is a homo.

Gay people dont hurt children by following their sexual urges. Pedos do.

Necrophiliacs don't hurt the living.

 

[Asclepias]

Get another job.

As I suspected you're too chickenshit to admit your hypocrisy.

Its not hypocrisy. If we were talking apples to apples I could see your point.

It is apples to apples. Either we can discriminate or we can't. Any law that says "only sometimes you can't discriminate" is unconstitutional as it affords special protections to SOME people.

For possibly the first time in your posting history, be honest and admit the truth.

Bullshit. Everyone discriminates. Some forms are legal and others are not. You discriminate when you choose to speak to some people and not to others. A person that is a pedo is potentially dangerous specifically to children. A Black person is not specifically dangerous to anyone. Its not apples to apples.

I think you are getting confused. If I didn't want to serve gay people for instance, I wouldn't but I would not whine about the consequences of my actions either.

Statistics has proven that a black person is more likely to commit a violent crime than a white person. So I'd be justified in discriminating against blacks for the same reason you discriminate against pedophiles who haven't, as of yet, harmed anyone.

No you wouldnt. Your logic is not making sense. A pedo is confessing he has a predisposition to harm a child. There is no guessing about it. Since 100% of all blacks do not commit violent crime you are way off base in your comparison.

 

[Slyhunter]

So you wouldn't blame me if I felt the same way about homo's then? I shouldn't be forced to work with one if I don't want to or make a cake for them either for that matter.

Why would I blame you? I'd think you were dumb since it didn't affect you or a child. Maybe that's why there is a law against it and not for pedos.

But we are talking about men who were born with an attraction to having sex with children but who have not actually even tried to have sex with a child, because they know it's wrong or whatever. IE men who have never harmed a child who simply want help in keeping it that way.

If it's ok for you to not work with someone, who has never hurt a child, that is a pedophile, then it should be ok for me to not work with someone, who has never hurt anyone, that is a homo.

Personally, if I felt the inclination to have sex with children, I'd kill myself. For real.

How about if you were attracted to men?
If you were my child I would disown you.

That you can't, or won't, distinguish between a consensual adult relationship and a child rape is not my problem.

That you can't, or won't, distinguish between fantasy and reality is the problem. A pedophile who hasn't hurt anyone hasn't harmed anyone, thus hasn't committed a crime can't help being a pedophile. All he has is his fantasy's but he still has committed no crime other than existing. You would imprison him for existing. OK lets imprison all the homos too.

 

[Asclepias]

Only if the blacks admitted they wanted to commit acts of violence. Your logic doesn't fly.

But that's nothing new.

You are dumb

Being a pedo is not a crime. Acting on those urges is.

Have you ever thought "I'd like to kill so and so?" Of course you have, everyone has, unless you actually attempt to act on those thoughts, no harm no foul.

Thinking you would like to kill is not the same as having thoughts associated to the strongest urge known to man.

 

[Slyhunter]

As I suspected you're too chickenshit to admit your hypocrisy.

Its not hypocrisy. If we were talking apples to apples I could see your point.

It is apples to apples. Either we can discriminate or we can't. Any law that says "only sometimes you can't discriminate" is unconstitutional as it affords special protections to SOME people.

For possibly the first time in your posting history, be honest and admit the truth.

Bullshit. Everyone discriminates. Some forms are legal and others are not. You discriminate when you choose to speak to some people and not to others. A person that is a pedo is potentially dangerous specifically to children. A Black person is not specifically dangerous to anyone. Its not apples to apples.

I think you are getting confused. If I didn't want to serve gay people for instance, I wouldn't but I would not whine about the consequences of my actions either.

We're talking about the law here retard.

If the law allows you to discriminate against a pedo, it should allow me to discriminate against a black man PERIOD end of story. Nowhere in the law does it say "you can discriminate if you think the person might be dangerous"

Stop being dishonest.

No its not period end of story. Pedos hurt children specifically. Black people dont. You show me were your post makes any amount of sense retard.

Not a pedo in fantasy only. having desire is not a crime.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

As I suspected you're too chickenshit to admit your hypocrisy.

Its not hypocrisy. If we were talking apples to apples I could see your point.

It is apples to apples. Either we can discriminate or we can't. Any law that says "only sometimes you can't discriminate" is unconstitutional as it affords special protections to SOME people.

For possibly the first time in your posting history, be honest and admit the truth.

Bullshit. Everyone discriminates. Some forms are legal and others are not. You discriminate when you choose to speak to some people and not to others. A person that is a pedo is potentially dangerous specifically to children. A Black person is not specifically dangerous to anyone. Its not apples to apples.

I think you are getting confused. If I didn't want to serve gay people for instance, I wouldn't but I would not whine about the consequences of my actions either.

We're talking about the law here retard.

If the law allows you to discriminate against a pedo, it should allow me to discriminate against a black man PERIOD end of story. Nowhere in the law does it say "you can discriminate if you think the person might be dangerous"

Stop being dishonest.

No its not period end of story. Pedos hurt children specifically. Black people dont. You show me were your post makes any amount of sense retard.

First, you show me where discrimination is allowed if people hurt, or may hurt, kids. Then we'll discuss your blatant hypocrisy .

Face it man, you want to discriminate without yourself being discriminated against. It's pathetic.

 

[Asclepias]

Youre wrong. Life does work that way. If I caught a pedo he would not be long for this earth. Sorry to bust your bubble but you wont ever get to smile. i work for myself not someone else so I pick who I work with and when I work with them.

So you wouldn't blame me if I felt the same way about homo's then? I shouldn't be forced to work with one if I don't want to or make a cake for them either for that matter.

Why would I blame you? I'd think you were dumb since it didn't affect you or a child. Maybe that's why there is a law against it and not for pedos.

But we are talking about men who were born with an attraction to having sex with children but who have not actually even tried to have sex with a child, because they know it's wrong or whatever. IE men who have never harmed a child who simply want help in keeping it that way.

If it's ok for you to not work with someone, who has never hurt a child, that is a pedophile, then it should be ok for me to not work with someone, who has never hurt anyone, that is a homo.

Gay people dont hurt children by following their sexual urges. Pedos do.

Necrophiliacs don't hurt the living.

What does that have to do with the discussion? I would be disgusted by a necro but I wouldnt hurt him if I had to work with him.

 

[koshergrl]

Its not hypocrisy. If we were talking apples to apples I could see your point.

It is apples to apples. Either we can discriminate or we can't. Any law that says "only sometimes you can't discriminate" is unconstitutional as it affords special protections to SOME people.

For possibly the first time in your posting history, be honest and admit the truth.

Bullshit. Everyone discriminates. Some forms are legal and others are not. You discriminate when you choose to speak to some people and not to others. A person that is a pedo is potentially dangerous specifically to children. A Black person is not specifically dangerous to anyone. Its not apples to apples.

I think you are getting confused. If I didn't want to serve gay people for instance, I wouldn't but I would not whine about the consequences of my actions either.

We're talking about the law here retard.

If the law allows you to discriminate against a pedo, it should allow me to discriminate against a black man PERIOD end of story. Nowhere in the law does it say "you can discriminate if you think the person might be dangerous"

Stop being dishonest.

No its not period end of story. Pedos hurt children specifically. Black people dont. You show me were your post makes any amount of sense retard.

Not a pedo in fantasy only. having desire is not a crime.

Pedophilia isn't the name of the crime, you idiot. Pedophilia is the desire.

 

[Asclepias]

Its not hypocrisy. If we were talking apples to apples I could see your point.

It is apples to apples. Either we can discriminate or we can't. Any law that says "only sometimes you can't discriminate" is unconstitutional as it affords special protections to SOME people.

For possibly the first time in your posting history, be honest and admit the truth.

Bullshit. Everyone discriminates. Some forms are legal and others are not. You discriminate when you choose to speak to some people and not to others. A person that is a pedo is potentially dangerous specifically to children. A Black person is not specifically dangerous to anyone. Its not apples to apples.

I think you are getting confused. If I didn't want to serve gay people for instance, I wouldn't but I would not whine about the consequences of my actions either.

We're talking about the law here retard.

If the law allows you to discriminate against a pedo, it should allow me to discriminate against a black man PERIOD end of story. Nowhere in the law does it say "you can discriminate if you think the person might be dangerous"

Stop being dishonest.

No its not period end of story. Pedos hurt children specifically. Black people dont. You show me were your post makes any amount of sense retard.

Not a pedo in fantasy only. having desire is not a crime.

I didnt say it was. I said its not worth the risk.

 

[Slyhunter]

As I suspected you're too chickenshit to admit your hypocrisy.

Its not hypocrisy. If we were talking apples to apples I could see your point.

It is apples to apples. Either we can discriminate or we can't. Any law that says "only sometimes you can't discriminate" is unconstitutional as it affords special protections to SOME people.

For possibly the first time in your posting history, be honest and admit the truth.

Bullshit. Everyone discriminates. Some forms are legal and others are not. You discriminate when you choose to speak to some people and not to others. A person that is a pedo is potentially dangerous specifically to children. A Black person is not specifically dangerous to anyone. Its not apples to apples.

I think you are getting confused. If I didn't want to serve gay people for instance, I wouldn't but I would not whine about the consequences of my actions either.

Statistics has proven that a black person is more likely to commit a violent crime than a white person. So I'd be justified in discriminating against blacks for the same reason you discriminate against pedophiles who haven't, as of yet, harmed anyone.

No you wouldnt. Your logic is not making sense. A pedo is confessing he has a predisposition to harm a child. There is no guessing about it. Since 100% of all blacks do not commit violent crime you are way off base in your comparison.

No, he is fantasizing about having sex with a child. It is your opinion that it is harming one, that is another argument. It is illegal and if he actual did it he should go to jail, but as long as he's fantasizing about it why should he have to go to jail?

I fantasize about robbing banks everytime I do my budget. So should I go to jail for bank robbery even though I've never robbed a bank?

 

[Slyhunter]

Only if the blacks admitted they wanted to commit acts of violence. Your logic doesn't fly.

But that's nothing new.

You are dumb

Being a pedo is not a crime. Acting on those urges is.

Have you ever thought "I'd like to kill so and so?" Of course you have, everyone has, unless you actually attempt to act on those thoughts, no harm no foul.

Thinking you would like to kill is not the same as having thoughts associated to the strongest urge known to man.

I want to rob a bank.

 

[novasteve]

Youre wrong. Life does work that way. If I caught a pedo he would not be long for this earth. Sorry to bust your bubble but you wont ever get to smile. i work for myself not someone else so I pick who I work with and when I work with them.

So you wouldn't blame me if I felt the same way about homo's then? I shouldn't be forced to work with one if I don't want to or make a cake for them either for that matter.

Why would I blame you? I'd think you were dumb since it didn't affect you or a child. Maybe that's why there is a law against it and not for pedos.

But we are talking about men who were born with an attraction to having sex with children but who have not actually even tried to have sex with a child, because they know it's wrong or whatever. IE men who have never harmed a child who simply want help in keeping it that way.

If it's ok for you to not work with someone, who has never hurt a child, that is a pedophile, then it should be ok for me to not work with someone, who has never hurt anyone, that is a homo.

Gay people dont hurt children by following their sexual urges. Pedos do.

Necrophiliacs don't hurt the living.

But they are still sick ******* degenerates