Pawns of the Powers that Be

[docmauser1]

"Since the issue of Palestinian national rights in a Palestinian state reached the agenda of diplomacy in the mid-1970s, 'the prime obstacle to its realization[/B]', unambiguously, has been the US government, with the NYT staking a claim to be second on the list. Reshaping History, by Noam Chomsky

The clown's good at "reshaping" things, of course.

You're not so good at refuting his content, Clown.

His content is intestinal gases, it just stinks, of course.

Try again:

With pleasure. Palistanians have been neither a people, nor a nation, ever, and Chomsky can stick this up his arse, of course.

 

[Jos]

You win a coin!

 

[docmauser1]

You win a coin!

So, who was that shakh, emir, sultan, pasha, effendi, president, prime-minister of that "nation" the coin was issued by?

 

[irosie91]

The existence of a coin in 1931 labeled "palestine" in engish, hebrew and arabic means WHAT TO YOU? At that time there existed the "PALESTINE MANDATE"------in which the two major communities ----the jews and the arabs---lived-----they did not get along-----so the land was PARTITIONED The arabs and OTHER MUSLIMS objected to partition on the grounds that according to their RELIGION they consider the ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST TO BE OWNED BY ISLAM --ie MUSLIM LAND and that the non muslims are lesser beings who are may be permitted to live within the parameters determined by MUSLIM RULERS in an ISLAMIC SOCIETY This islamic fascism which afflicts so many countries in the middle east and in other parts of the world -----was rejected by jews. More recently the filth of islamic fascism was rejected by the people of south sudan Back in 1971 rejection of the filth of islamic fascism in Nigeria led to the genocide of more than 2 million Biafran christians

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep Obama won! Beep beep beep beep beep lol

 

[irosie91]

so?

 

[docmauser1]

Borders are a natural product of territory. Any piece of land naturally has borders to define its location. It is impossible to have land and not have borders. If Israel had any land it would have to have borders.

Funny drivel. That's why palistanians have no land, no borders and aren't even a people, of course.

 

[irosie91]

I am fascinated by the term NAQBA which is used extensively by islamo nazis ------to imply an ATROCITY in the 1940s which involved a migration of arab muslim -----sometimes numbered as 600,000 Georgie seems fervent about describing this migration as some kind of GROSS TRAGEDY Wjat actually happened? well----generally---the NAQBA people do admit that in the same period of time -----hundreds of thousands of jews migrated out of muslim controlled lands------but THAT IS NOT A "NAQBA" Obviously the migration of arab muslims-----into lands owned by other arab muslims------speaking the same language and observing the same religion----and actually being located ----no more than a few miles down the road---- IS A GROSS TRAGEDY but a migration of an equal number of jews-----greater distances ------forced to give up EVERTHING THEY OWNED and subjected to pogroms along the way------to the arms of their own people at that time UNDER MILITARY attack--------and under various modes of SIEGE-----is not a "naqba" In fact jews still celebrate the event. The same people who BEMOAN the "naqba" of the arab muslims------justify baby throat slitting pogroms in ---the "muslim" lands jews fled as "a natural reaction to the presence of jews in palestine"

 

[georgephillip]

Both population transfers were set in motion by the infliction of a Jewish state upon Palestine in 1948.
If one third of the population of Mandate Palestine isn't allowed to infect Palestine with a Jewish State, there NO Nakba.

 

[irosie91]

my inlaws FLED---in actual FLIGHT from severe oppression consisting of child confiscation, rape and---pogroms-----a shariah shit hole------starting in 1935 -----Because escape was ILLEGAL their flight took more than six years What does 'inflicting" a state have to do with the oppression they fled? A few years ago I ran into an elderly woman who told me the story of her family's flight from the same shariah shit hole------grandparents FLED-----along with the WHOLE COMMUNITY of jews-------in 1905. Another elderly person wrote a book detailing the history of a liitle city in Israel ----that was founded in 1882----that was founded by ---the communities who had fled that filth which you claim did not exist in shariah shit holes-----neighbors to the then palestine-- don't believe everything you read from STORMFRONT

 

[irosie91]

tinnie---if you had a brain you would stop PROVING that you are an idiot

 

[irosie91]

Rosie:

Are you trying to apologize for ethnic cleansing when its committed by the "chosen people?"

In 1948 over 700,000 Arabs and others were uprooted from their homes, businesses and bank accounts when one third of the population of Mandate Palestine imposed a Jewish State by force of arms.

If 700,000 Jews had been displaced, you would have no problem blaming their tormentors, would you?

Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What part did the Palestinians play in that exodus?

It was a muslim enterprise----in fact very much supported by a person who did not at that time KNOW he was a palestinian "GRAND" mufti al Husseini Today---had he lived----he would be calling himself a "PALESTINIAN" Your heroes who slit throats in hebron in 1929 did not know that their grandchildren would be "palestinians" either Would you like to ---get into your sophistry ------THEY DIDn't EXIST?

 

[irosie91]

I wonder if there were any jews living in today what some people call "palestine" to wit------the west bank and east jerusalem and Gaza? If there were------I wonder why they left those places. Maybe georgie knows

There were Jews living in all three of those places but were displaced during Israel's war. Otherwise they would probably still be living there.

tinnie is brilliant Jews would STILL BE LIVING in Yathrib too-----if not for HERZL------islamo nazi propaganda is so FASCINATING. For those who do not know-----tinnie is not saying anything innovative------ALL OF THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE MURDERED IN ISLAMIC GENOCIDES-----would still be living HAPPILY if only they agreed to lick that ass of the rapist pig of arabia Those idiot Armenians refuse to lick

 

[georgephillip]

my inlaws FLED---in actual FLIGHT from severe oppression consisting of child confiscation, rape and---pogroms-----a shariah shit hole------starting in 1935 -----Because escape was ILLEGAL their flight took more than six years What does 'inflicting" a state have to do with the oppression they fled? A few years ago I ran into an elderly woman who told me the story of her family's flight from the same shariah shit hole------grandparents FLED-----along with the WHOLE COMMUNITY of jews-------in 1905. Another elderly person wrote a book detailing the history of a liitle city in Israel ----that was founded in 1882----that was founded by ---the communities who had fled that filth which you claim did not exist in shariah shit holes-----neighbors to the then palestine-- don't believe everything you read from STORMFRONT

Your ALLEGED in-law's FLIGHT from HYPOTHETICAL oppression, even if remotely true, hasn't the slightest bearing on the CRIME of a JEWISH STATE being inflicted upon Palestine in 1948. All of your rancid, racist histories STRONGLY suggest you are just another useless hasbara hack. Don't believe every thing those voices in your HEAD are telling you.

 

[irosie91]

georgie----you are pathetic-----anyone interested in that which georgie denies have happened---(because he actually wishes that more of it happened and will take place in the future) google "DHIMMI ORPHAN LAW" May all those who trivialize this filth see it experienced by their own

 

[Hossfly]

I offer up this thread as Exhibit A....who could possibly review such inspired self-delusion and the tilting of fact on its head, and not recognize the twisted psyche of the Zionist Jews at work...???

If anyone has a twisted psyche, it has to be a poster who had about two dozen different screen names on another board and now is on his third one here. Maybe he really doesn't know who he really is. Actually Skizoid sounded better when he plagiarized some stuff written by a young Muslim man by the name of Omar. Someone checked and saw where it came from. The funny thing here is that Skizoid wants us to believe that he actually writes for a living.

 

[georgephillip]

georgie----you are pathetic-----anyone interested in that which georgie denies have happened---(because he actually wishes that more of it happened and will take place in the future) google "DHIMMI ORPHAN LAW" May all those who trivialize this filth see it experienced by their own

Right after you Google "Dhimmi ORPHAN LAW" and its relationship to the infliction of a Jewish State upon Palestine. May you meet Hitler in Hades...SOON.

 

[Hossfly]

georgie----you are pathetic-----anyone interested in that which georgie denies have happened---(because he actually wishes that more of it happened and will take place in the future) google "DHIMMI ORPHAN LAW" May all those who trivialize this filth see it experienced by their own

Right after you Google "Dhimmi ORPHAN LAW" and its relationship to the infliction of a Jewish State upon Palestine. May you meet Hitler in Hades...SOON.

Be nice to Rosie, George, or I will wish a kidney stone upon you.

 

[irosie91]

It is the dhimmi orphan law-------a SHARIAH LAW----which in shariah adherent societies have been enforced for centuries------which makes legal and georgie DELIGHTED ----the enslavement of the children of murdered christian fathers of south sudan-----murdered for BEING CHRISTIAN----the raped mothers of the children have NO RIGHT TO DEMAND CUSTODY---

The logic of this law is of the kind of sick sophistry in which both georgie and tinnie engage. ---To start----non muslims are permitted to live in muslim societies only under an agreement that pay tribute and aquiesce to islamic rule as a SUBJUGATED person That contractual arrangement allows a man to bring up his kids in his own religion----but if the man dies---the child is FREE FOR THE TAKING by any muslim male who wants him---or MORE LIKELY --her. In Sudan ---since the southern christians were considered "rebels" against islamic rule-----killing the men is legal -----and the children of the male becomes the possession of ---whatever muslim male claims them. In the case of my mother-in-law,, Her father died when she was 10 years old-----of NATURAL CAUSES -----making her LIABLE TO BE CLAIMED -----thus the flight out of the shariah shit hole to the dismay of Tinnie

 

[SAYIT]

I offer up this thread as Exhibit A....who could possibly review such inspired self-delusion and the tilting of fact on its head, and not recognize the twisted psyche of the Zionist Jews at work...???

Ah, ever pompous Nazi jackass. You are nothing if not consistent, Princess.