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[Alex.]

Pointing out the TOTAL lack of direct evidence is not conjecture, dude, you are being an idiot.

Can you prove your statement?

Sure, just read this thread. There is no direct evidence that Brady was directly connected to what happened with the footballs PSI. Like an idiot you call that conjecture. IT makes you look like an idiot because the Wells report states that there is no evidence directly linking Brady also. NO ONE has any such evidence.

Only an idiot would think that to be conjecture when it is simply fact.

Nope does not pass the smell test. You need to prove your position.

 

[Alex.]

You don't seem to understand the concept of what evidence is. IF all the evidence that the NFL could possibly uncover was on Brady's phone then they are idiots, and there is not foul because were there a true violation there would be plenty of other evidence aside form what might have been on Brady's phone.

Seriously though. Do you blame him for breaking his phone? Would you hand over your cell phone to your employer? He didn't commit a crime so I don't know what makes them think they are entitled to invade his privacy in that way, especially over something so stupid.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

Were those phones all from a prior date? I wonder when he started doing this and has he been consistently doing it since some point in time.

As to my theory about what happened, the equipment guy knows Brady like the balls to be at minimum PSI, so that is how the balls get inflated. During the game the balls lose some PSI, making them under inflated a tad. The Colts want to throw some confusion among the PAtriots so they take one of the balls, deflate it a little bit and tell the judges. The judges find it to be under, then all the other balls to be a little under....and all the Colts balls were under too, but no one was accusing them, lol. So the balls all get brought back up to PSI standards, the pats get pissed about being accused of cheating and stomp the Colts into the mud in the second half with regularly inflated footballs.

And the Patriot's intensity is being maintained with all this NFL bullshit, and the Pats make the playoffs again and maybe win another Super Bowl this year.

I think whether or not he destroyed ALL of his phones is a moot point. It was his phone, and he can do what he wants with it. I think most people would object to handing their cellphones (with their personal texts, pictures, etc.) over to their employer. If this was a criminal investigation and he was being accused of a crime, that is another story. This is a way blown out of proportion allegedly deflated ball conspiracy theory is all.

Brady looked pretty good last night. Jonas Gray and Malcolm Butler . . . also looking really good.

ChrisL: "I think whether or not he destroyed ALL of his phones is a moot point." If he did not lie I may agree.

 

[Alex.]

Pointing out the TOTAL lack of direct evidence is not conjecture, dude, you are being an idiot.

Can you prove your statement?

Sure, just read this thread. There is no direct evidence that Brady was directly connected to what happened with the footballs PSI. Like an idiot you call that conjecture. IT makes you look like an idiot because the Wells report states that there is no evidence directly linking Brady also. NO ONE has any such evidence.

Only an idiot would think that to be conjecture when it is simply fact.

Also the judge asked for direct evidence and the NFL said they had none.

The judge at a settlement conference asked for evidence? I can see you have not been to many settlement conferences. Keep on listening to the media hype.

 

[Alex.]

There is a simple fix for this. The judge should simply inform the NFL that the penalty imposed is way out of line with the alleged infraction...even if it were proven that the Patriots intentionally did break the rules...which Ted Wells and his multi-million dollar investigation didn't come CLOSE to doing! The penalty that existed was a $25,000 fine. Not a million dollars and the loss of two draft choices! Not the suspension of the teams starting quarterback for a quarter of an NFL season!

If I were the judge I would instruct the NFL to better monitor game balls so that this problem wasn't repeated. I would tell the Patriots that because game balls were slightly under-inflated that they were liable for the $25,000 fine. I would tell the NFL that the fines, loss of draft choices and suspension of Brady are SO out of line with what took place and what existing penalties were in place that it bordered on the absurd and I would rescind them all along with a lecture about not wasting the court's time with something that should have been EASILY resolved by the NFL itself!

Judge cannot instruct them to settle only strongly suggest.

 

[Alex.]

Unfortunately a very sad development has occurred.


“Gisele is ramping up the social media activity because her marriage is breaking down,” the source said, claiming while out for his birthday dinner, “Tom and Gisele had a massive fight, and she stormed out.”

According to the source, the pair, who wed in 2009, have been “fighting every other day for weeks,” but it was on Tom’s birthday that “things really came to a head” when they “each dredged up every issue with the other that they’d been suppressing.”

The timing of their latest fight comes as the Patriots quarterback’s name has been dragged into Ben Affleck’s nanny cheating scandal. The former caretaker, Christine Ouzounian, was seen wearing what Page Six claimed were Brady’s Superbowl rings on June 27 as the trio flew via private jet to Las Vegas"

Sorry, Oldfartstyle, here is the young lady who now wears Brady's rings. Better luck next time.

Great we have gone tabloid.

Have you ever considered how we got here? I was talking about Brady and the footballs, your com-padre OldsycophantStyle brought in Brady's family and Brady' personal life. This is fair game based on the standard, however low it may be, established by the obsequious Oldstyle.

 

[Kanola]

Brady destroyed evidence and refused to cooperate. You have a very selective memory.

You don't seem to understand the concept of what evidence is. IF all the evidence that the NFL could possibly uncover was on Brady's phone then they are idiots, and there is not foul because were there a true violation there would be plenty of other evidence aside form what might have been on Brady's phone.

Seriously though. Do you blame him for breaking his phone? Would you hand over your cell phone to your employer? He didn't commit a crime so I don't know what makes them think they are entitled to invade his privacy in that way, especially over something so stupid.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

Brady destroyed evidence and refused to cooperate. You have a very selective memory.

You don't seem to understand the concept of what evidence is. IF all the evidence that the NFL could possibly uncover was on Brady's phone then they are idiots, and there is not foul because were there a true violation there would be plenty of other evidence aside form what might have been on Brady's phone.

Seriously though. Do you blame him for breaking his phone? Would you hand over your cell phone to your employer? He didn't commit a crime so I don't know what makes them think they are entitled to invade his privacy in that way, especially over something so stupid.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

"...Brady never HAS been an innocent."

I'm curious what you mean by that, Kanola? Do you know something else that Brady is "guilty" of? Or is that just a vague indictment based on your dislike of the Patriots?

Tom Brady has been in the NFL and in the public spotlight for a long, long, long time and he's been nothing but a class act during that time. No drugs. No DUI's. Doesn't beat his wife. Doesn't beat his kids. Doesn't cash in on his celebrity endorsing crap he doesn't use. Always took less money for himself so the Patriots could keep players under the salary cap.

What's pathetic is that the NFL has decided to go after one of the few players it has who doesn't act like a douche when they are off the field. You give the same suspension to Tom Brady (for destroying his phone) that you give to Greg Hardy for beating the shit out of his girlfriend? Really? You give a greater suspension to Brady than you do to Ray Rice? Really?

Roger Goodell is an idiot. Pure and simple.

He is a womanizer. He has children he leaves. But, that doesn't so much matter...after all he is a good looking man, right? If he were ugly I doubt a lot of these statements would be made.
I have been following Brady since the days of Michigan. He is ANYTHING but humble. More like an arrogant a$$.
He loses a game, what does he do? Storms off the field while the other players are congratulating the winning team. I have seen that many times myself.
He is a crybaby, and a poor sport.

If he weren't scared he'd be found out, and he had done nothing wrong, he would have turned the phone over, no problem. See? Turning it over would prove he is innocent, right?

Tom Brady has never been innocent. He is a spoiled brat. BUT, I admit he has helped me win some FF trophies.

Bottom line...cracks me up. People/women defending him because he looks good. Shallow.

 

[Kanola]

Re: His phone...........ultimately doesn't matter. Others have copies of his text messages.


Oh shoot. I keep forgetting. None of this matters because he is good looking. ROTFL

 

[Unkotare]

The jealousy is thick in here. ^^^^^

 

[Kanola]

The jealousy is thick in here. ^^^^^

Jealousy over.....?????

 

[mack20]

The jealousy is thick in here. ^^^^^

Jealousy over.....?????

Well, you seem to be pretty stuck on the way that Brady looks.

 

[Kanola]

The jealousy is thick in here. ^^^^^

Jealousy over.....?????

Well, you seem to be pretty stuck on the way that Brady looks.

Did you read the thread? His looks are mentioned many times. Even recently. I didn't realize I could not give my opinion on such.

 

[mack20]

The jealousy is thick in here. ^^^^^

Jealousy over.....?????

Well, you seem to be pretty stuck on the way that Brady looks.

Did you read the thread? His looks are mentioned many times. Even recently. I didn't realize I could not give my opinion on such.

You can give your opinion all you want. Your opinion makes you sound like a jealous moron. That's MY opinion.

 

[Kanola]

The jealousy is thick in here. ^^^^^

Jealousy over.....?????

Well, you seem to be pretty stuck on the way that Brady looks.

Did you read the thread? His looks are mentioned many times. Even recently. I didn't realize I could not give my opinion on such.

You can give your opinion all you want. Your opinion makes you sound like a jealous moron. That's MY opinion.

I still do not know what I am supposed to be jealous over. As a woman, I appreciate any good looking man, just as any other woman.
The only thing I do not like, is a lie and cheat. I don't care how good they look.

BTW I would not lower myself to name call you, as I do not even know you. But, as you say, we have the right.

 

[Oldstyle]

You don't seem to understand the concept of what evidence is. IF all the evidence that the NFL could possibly uncover was on Brady's phone then they are idiots, and there is not foul because were there a true violation there would be plenty of other evidence aside form what might have been on Brady's phone.

Seriously though. Do you blame him for breaking his phone? Would you hand over your cell phone to your employer? He didn't commit a crime so I don't know what makes them think they are entitled to invade his privacy in that way, especially over something so stupid.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

You don't seem to understand the concept of what evidence is. IF all the evidence that the NFL could possibly uncover was on Brady's phone then they are idiots, and there is not foul because were there a true violation there would be plenty of other evidence aside form what might have been on Brady's phone.

Seriously though. Do you blame him for breaking his phone? Would you hand over your cell phone to your employer? He didn't commit a crime so I don't know what makes them think they are entitled to invade his privacy in that way, especially over something so stupid.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

"...Brady never HAS been an innocent."

I'm curious what you mean by that, Kanola? Do you know something else that Brady is "guilty" of? Or is that just a vague indictment based on your dislike of the Patriots?

Tom Brady has been in the NFL and in the public spotlight for a long, long, long time and he's been nothing but a class act during that time. No drugs. No DUI's. Doesn't beat his wife. Doesn't beat his kids. Doesn't cash in on his celebrity endorsing crap he doesn't use. Always took less money for himself so the Patriots could keep players under the salary cap.

What's pathetic is that the NFL has decided to go after one of the few players it has who doesn't act like a douche when they are off the field. You give the same suspension to Tom Brady (for destroying his phone) that you give to Greg Hardy for beating the shit out of his girlfriend? Really? You give a greater suspension to Brady than you do to Ray Rice? Really?

Roger Goodell is an idiot. Pure and simple.

He is a womanizer. He has children he leaves. But, that doesn't so much matter...after all he is a good looking man, right? If he were ugly I doubt a lot of these statements would be made.
I have been following Brady since the days of Michigan. He is ANYTHING but humble. More like an arrogant a$$.
He loses a game, what does he do? Storms off the field while the other players are congratulating the winning team. I have seen that many times myself.
He is a crybaby, and a poor sport.

If he weren't scared he'd be found out, and he had done nothing wrong, he would have turned the phone over, no problem. See? Turning it over would prove he is innocent, right?

Tom Brady has never been innocent. He is a spoiled brat. BUT, I admit he has helped me win some FF trophies.

Bottom line...cracks me up. People/women defending him because he looks good. Shallow.

He's so not a "womanizer" it's not even funny! He's a happily married family man who by all appearances loves his wife and his kids. As for the children he "leaves"? He used to date Bridget Moynihan before he met his wife...he broke up with her and only then did she discover she was pregnant with his child. Tom Brady has always been there for that child, both financially and in person. Accusing him of being a delinquent father is a total lie. With as many NFL players that DO have children out of wedlock and have to be sued for child support...it's pathetic that the person you feel you need to accuse of that kind of behavior is one of the few star athletes who is a good husband and father.

You should be ashamed of yourself...

 

[Oldstyle]

Unfortunately a very sad development has occurred.


“Gisele is ramping up the social media activity because her marriage is breaking down,” the source said, claiming while out for his birthday dinner, “Tom and Gisele had a massive fight, and she stormed out.”

According to the source, the pair, who wed in 2009, have been “fighting every other day for weeks,” but it was on Tom’s birthday that “things really came to a head” when they “each dredged up every issue with the other that they’d been suppressing.”

The timing of their latest fight comes as the Patriots quarterback’s name has been dragged into Ben Affleck’s nanny cheating scandal. The former caretaker, Christine Ouzounian, was seen wearing what Page Six claimed were Brady’s Superbowl rings on June 27 as the trio flew via private jet to Las Vegas"

Sorry, Oldfartstyle, here is the young lady who now wears Brady's rings. Better luck next time.

Great we have gone tabloid.

Have you ever considered how we got here? I was talking about Brady and the footballs, your com-padre OldsycophantStyle brought in Brady's family and Brady' personal life. This is fair game based on the standard, however low it may be, established by the obsequious Oldstyle.

I brought in Tom Brady's family and personal life? Really? Who's posting pictures of tabloids saying Brady's marriage is on the rocks? Who's posting pictures of the Brady nanny saying she's the other woman? Who posted a picture of Tom Brady dancing while on vacation? Who posted pictures of Robert Kraft and his girlfriend and accused him of cheating on his wife with the new girlfriend while his beloved wife lay dying of cancer? You've been making personal attacks on Brady, Belichick and Kraft for most of this string. It's what you DO! That and make references to male genitalia.

 

[Papageorgio]

one month away till the regular football season starts and Bradys suspension still has not been reversed by any court.My oh my the Brady worshippers like old fartstyle,pooper,,chrissy,and mack must be sweating bullets getting worried and scared.

Just a few days ago the presiding Judge got fed up with it and told Brady and Goodel to work out their differences.

It was also reported yesterday that the first hearing occured a couple days ago with nothing revealed about the decison with a second hearing scheduled on the 21st I believe.The courts are so fucked up,they have trials that sometimes last for years so by the time they rule something,the season will already be overwith and brady will have already served his four game suspension.

If you read the reports coming out of the courtroom...what the judge is "fed up with" is a total lack of evidence from the NFL that Tom Brady actually did something wrong. The judge repeatedly asked the lawyers representing the NFL for "PROOF" that Brady broke the rules...and he was repeatedly told by the NFL's lawyers that they didn't have proof...which means Brady's suspension is based on not on his having done something illegal...but on the NFL's belief that he should have helped them more to find something that he'd done that was illegal.

Why respond to an idiot, he is easily the dumbest poster on this board. He claims to have me on ignore and yet knows when and what I post. He has major mental issues. His IQ is either 9 or 11. Hand job is the board dumb shit.

 

[Papageorgio]

Pointing out the TOTAL lack of direct evidence is not conjecture, dude, you are being an idiot.

Can you prove your statement?

Sure, just read this thread. There is no direct evidence that Brady was directly connected to what happened with the footballs PSI. Like an idiot you call that conjecture. IT makes you look like an idiot because the Wells report states that there is no evidence directly linking Brady also. NO ONE has any such evidence.

Only an idiot would think that to be conjecture when it is simply fact.

Also the judge asked for direct evidence and the NFL said they had none.

The judge at a settlement conference asked for evidence? I can see you have not been to many settlement conferences. Keep on listening to the media hype.

He asked for direct evidence, it was in the story. No one has produced direct evidence, not even in the Wells report did they have direct evidence. That is because there is none.

 

[Alex.]

Unfortunately a very sad development has occurred.


“Gisele is ramping up the social media activity because her marriage is breaking down,” the source said, claiming while out for his birthday dinner, “Tom and Gisele had a massive fight, and she stormed out.”

According to the source, the pair, who wed in 2009, have been “fighting every other day for weeks,” but it was on Tom’s birthday that “things really came to a head” when they “each dredged up every issue with the other that they’d been suppressing.”

The timing of their latest fight comes as the Patriots quarterback’s name has been dragged into Ben Affleck’s nanny cheating scandal. The former caretaker, Christine Ouzounian, was seen wearing what Page Six claimed were Brady’s Superbowl rings on June 27 as the trio flew via private jet to Las Vegas"

Sorry, Oldfartstyle, here is the young lady who now wears Brady's rings. Better luck next time.

Great we have gone tabloid.

Have you ever considered how we got here? I was talking about Brady and the footballs, your com-padre OldsycophantStyle brought in Brady's family and Brady' personal life. This is fair game based on the standard, however low it may be, established by the obsequious Oldstyle.

I brought in Tom Brady's family and personal life? Really? Who's posting pictures of tabloids saying Brady's marriage is on the rocks? Who's posting pictures of the Brady nanny saying she's the other woman? Who posted a picture of Tom Brady dancing while on vacation? Who posted pictures of Robert Kraft and his girlfriend and accused him of cheating on his wife with the new girlfriend while his beloved wife lay dying of cancer? You've been making personal attacks on Brady, Belichick and Kraft for most of this string. It's what you DO! That and make references to male genitalia.

Oldstyle: "I brought in Tom Brady's family and personal life?"

You sure did liar

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[Oldstyle]

Oh for freakin cripe's sakes!!! Doncha people know what it costs to be freakin Thomas Brady???

Do you even guess what he pays to keep a crib like this operational?? The gardener, the pool boys, probably a dozen peeps just to spit and polish. THEN the private jet to fly across the country to get there and the limos and on and on...

Brady HAS to cheat!!! You think you got a mortgage problem? Brady pays more out of his ring pinky than all you pretenders put together. AND he has this super duper model wife that makes more than he does AND the Ho throws it in his face!! Tommy GOTTA cut corners!!! Wouldn't YOU??? Hasn't Brady suffered ENOUGH????

That post was in response to this nonsense from another Patriot hater! It wasn't me bringing Tom Brady's personal life into the discussion...it was me responding to someone who already had and was posting absolutely stupid things like that Brady needed to cheat to support his extravagant lifestyle!

All I did was point out that Tom Brady's wife makes tons more money than he does! Of all the players in the NFL...I can't think of a single other player who needs money less than Tom Brady does.

 

[Oldstyle]

Now did you want me to go back and show all of the personal attacks that you've leveled against Brady and Kraft?