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[Kanola]

Seriously though. Do you blame him for breaking his phone? Would you hand over your cell phone to your employer? He didn't commit a crime so I don't know what makes them think they are entitled to invade his privacy in that way, especially over something so stupid.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

Seriously though. Do you blame him for breaking his phone? Would you hand over your cell phone to your employer? He didn't commit a crime so I don't know what makes them think they are entitled to invade his privacy in that way, especially over something so stupid.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

"...Brady never HAS been an innocent."

I'm curious what you mean by that, Kanola? Do you know something else that Brady is "guilty" of? Or is that just a vague indictment based on your dislike of the Patriots?

Tom Brady has been in the NFL and in the public spotlight for a long, long, long time and he's been nothing but a class act during that time. No drugs. No DUI's. Doesn't beat his wife. Doesn't beat his kids. Doesn't cash in on his celebrity endorsing crap he doesn't use. Always took less money for himself so the Patriots could keep players under the salary cap.

What's pathetic is that the NFL has decided to go after one of the few players it has who doesn't act like a douche when they are off the field. You give the same suspension to Tom Brady (for destroying his phone) that you give to Greg Hardy for beating the shit out of his girlfriend? Really? You give a greater suspension to Brady than you do to Ray Rice? Really?

Roger Goodell is an idiot. Pure and simple.

He is a womanizer. He has children he leaves. But, that doesn't so much matter...after all he is a good looking man, right? If he were ugly I doubt a lot of these statements would be made.
I have been following Brady since the days of Michigan. He is ANYTHING but humble. More like an arrogant a$$.
He loses a game, what does he do? Storms off the field while the other players are congratulating the winning team. I have seen that many times myself.
He is a crybaby, and a poor sport.

If he weren't scared he'd be found out, and he had done nothing wrong, he would have turned the phone over, no problem. See? Turning it over would prove he is innocent, right?

Tom Brady has never been innocent. He is a spoiled brat. BUT, I admit he has helped me win some FF trophies.

Bottom line...cracks me up. People/women defending him because he looks good. Shallow.

Dont know about any of that...Hes actually not...looks like a fugly low budget 70s porn star. lol I think HE knows his time might be up.

New season is coming. I may not know as much about the game (history) and players as everyone else...but its still fun to watch.
Denver vs Seattle...19 13 were losing...but its raining, cold ( for the day) and football is on. ..... but you probably hate Seattle too lol oh well

No way! I do not hate Seattle at all. Actually I hate no team or player.
I may take a strong stand, but it doesn't mean hate.
I DO hate the actions of some though. Brady being one.
Oh and LOL @ you and fugly porn star. Kinda on spot.


OTOH It does make me laugh to watch all these lovers and defenders. If nothing whatsoever had not happened, we wouldn't even be having this conversation, kwim?

 

[Kanola]

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

"...Brady never HAS been an innocent."

I'm curious what you mean by that, Kanola? Do you know something else that Brady is "guilty" of? Or is that just a vague indictment based on your dislike of the Patriots?

Tom Brady has been in the NFL and in the public spotlight for a long, long, long time and he's been nothing but a class act during that time. No drugs. No DUI's. Doesn't beat his wife. Doesn't beat his kids. Doesn't cash in on his celebrity endorsing crap he doesn't use. Always took less money for himself so the Patriots could keep players under the salary cap.

What's pathetic is that the NFL has decided to go after one of the few players it has who doesn't act like a douche when they are off the field. You give the same suspension to Tom Brady (for destroying his phone) that you give to Greg Hardy for beating the shit out of his girlfriend? Really? You give a greater suspension to Brady than you do to Ray Rice? Really?

Roger Goodell is an idiot. Pure and simple.

He is a womanizer. He has children he leaves. But, that doesn't so much matter...after all he is a good looking man, right? If he were ugly I doubt a lot of these statements would be made.
I have been following Brady since the days of Michigan. He is ANYTHING but humble. More like an arrogant a$$.
He loses a game, what does he do? Storms off the field while the other players are congratulating the winning team. I have seen that many times myself.
He is a crybaby, and a poor sport.

If he weren't scared he'd be found out, and he had done nothing wrong, he would have turned the phone over, no problem. See? Turning it over would prove he is innocent, right?

Tom Brady has never been innocent. He is a spoiled brat. BUT, I admit he has helped me win some FF trophies.

Bottom line...cracks me up. People/women defending him because he looks good. Shallow.

Dont know about any of that...Hes actually not...looks like a fugly low budget 70s porn star. lol I think HE knows his time might be up.

New season is coming. I may not know as much about the game (history) and players as everyone else...but its still fun to watch.
Denver vs Seattle...19 13 were losing...but its raining, cold ( for the day) and football is on. ..... but you probably hate Seattle too lol oh well

His time is up? The guy just won MVP of the Super Bowl!
Are you here attempting to prove how little you know about the game of football? Because if that IS the case then you're off to a kick ass start!

WOW You big tough guy.....and we are skeered!

 

[featherlite]

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

I think Brady ws in the habit of destroying old phones so that they couldn't fall into the hands of sports obsessed fans and journalists.

The guy has the right to protect his privacy from the less disciplined fans, and I doubt that he is the only sports super star that destroys old phones.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

"...Brady never HAS been an innocent."

I'm curious what you mean by that, Kanola? Do you know something else that Brady is "guilty" of? Or is that just a vague indictment based on your dislike of the Patriots?

Tom Brady has been in the NFL and in the public spotlight for a long, long, long time and he's been nothing but a class act during that time. No drugs. No DUI's. Doesn't beat his wife. Doesn't beat his kids. Doesn't cash in on his celebrity endorsing crap he doesn't use. Always took less money for himself so the Patriots could keep players under the salary cap.

What's pathetic is that the NFL has decided to go after one of the few players it has who doesn't act like a douche when they are off the field. You give the same suspension to Tom Brady (for destroying his phone) that you give to Greg Hardy for beating the shit out of his girlfriend? Really? You give a greater suspension to Brady than you do to Ray Rice? Really?

Roger Goodell is an idiot. Pure and simple.

He is a womanizer. He has children he leaves. But, that doesn't so much matter...after all he is a good looking man, right? If he were ugly I doubt a lot of these statements would be made.
I have been following Brady since the days of Michigan. He is ANYTHING but humble. More like an arrogant a$$.
He loses a game, what does he do? Storms off the field while the other players are congratulating the winning team. I have seen that many times myself.
He is a crybaby, and a poor sport.

If he weren't scared he'd be found out, and he had done nothing wrong, he would have turned the phone over, no problem. See? Turning it over would prove he is innocent, right?

Tom Brady has never been innocent. He is a spoiled brat. BUT, I admit he has helped me win some FF trophies.

Bottom line...cracks me up. People/women defending him because he looks good. Shallow.

Dont know about any of that...Hes actually not...looks like a fugly low budget 70s porn star. lol I think HE knows his time might be up.

New season is coming. I may not know as much about the game (history) and players as everyone else...but its still fun to watch.
Denver vs Seattle...19 13 were losing...but its raining, cold ( for the day) and football is on. ..... but you probably hate Seattle too lol oh well

No way! I do not hate Seattle at all. Actually I hate no team or player.
I may take a strong stand, but it doesn't mean hate.
I DO hate the actions of some though. Brady being one.
Oh and LOL @ you and fugly porn star. Kinda on spot.


OTOH It does make me laugh to watch all these lovers and defenders. If nothing whatsoever had not happened, we wouldn't even be having this conversation, kwim?

...just passing the time with nonsense.

 

[featherlite]

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

That would possibly be true, except other old phones of his have been found. They were not destroyed. So right there is a lie by Brady, and kind of shoots that argument in the foot. Sounds like he destroyed ONE phone.
I have no dog in this fight, and only Brady truly knows the truth, but something certainly is amiss with this.
IMO there is no true argument. SOMETHING has taken place, and Brady never HAS been an innocent.

"...Brady never HAS been an innocent."

I'm curious what you mean by that, Kanola? Do you know something else that Brady is "guilty" of? Or is that just a vague indictment based on your dislike of the Patriots?

Tom Brady has been in the NFL and in the public spotlight for a long, long, long time and he's been nothing but a class act during that time. No drugs. No DUI's. Doesn't beat his wife. Doesn't beat his kids. Doesn't cash in on his celebrity endorsing crap he doesn't use. Always took less money for himself so the Patriots could keep players under the salary cap.

What's pathetic is that the NFL has decided to go after one of the few players it has who doesn't act like a douche when they are off the field. You give the same suspension to Tom Brady (for destroying his phone) that you give to Greg Hardy for beating the shit out of his girlfriend? Really? You give a greater suspension to Brady than you do to Ray Rice? Really?

Roger Goodell is an idiot. Pure and simple.

He is a womanizer. He has children he leaves. But, that doesn't so much matter...after all he is a good looking man, right? If he were ugly I doubt a lot of these statements would be made.
I have been following Brady since the days of Michigan. He is ANYTHING but humble. More like an arrogant a$$.
He loses a game, what does he do? Storms off the field while the other players are congratulating the winning team. I have seen that many times myself.
He is a crybaby, and a poor sport.

If he weren't scared he'd be found out, and he had done nothing wrong, he would have turned the phone over, no problem. See? Turning it over would prove he is innocent, right?

Tom Brady has never been innocent. He is a spoiled brat. BUT, I admit he has helped me win some FF trophies.

Bottom line...cracks me up. People/women defending him because he looks good. Shallow.

Dont know about any of that...Hes actually not...looks like a fugly low budget 70s porn star. lol I think HE knows his time might be up.

New season is coming. I may not know as much about the game (history) and players as everyone else...but its still fun to watch.
Denver vs Seattle...19 13 were losing...but its raining, cold ( for the day) and football is on. ..... but you probably hate Seattle too lol oh well

His time is up? The guy just won MVP of the Super Bowl!
Are you here attempting to prove how little you know about the game of football? Because if that IS the case then you're off to a kick ass start!

WOW You big tough guy.....and we are skeered!

creepy mouth for football nonsense there kanola. lol

 

[Kanola]

"...Brady never HAS been an innocent."

I'm curious what you mean by that, Kanola? Do you know something else that Brady is "guilty" of? Or is that just a vague indictment based on your dislike of the Patriots?

Tom Brady has been in the NFL and in the public spotlight for a long, long, long time and he's been nothing but a class act during that time. No drugs. No DUI's. Doesn't beat his wife. Doesn't beat his kids. Doesn't cash in on his celebrity endorsing crap he doesn't use. Always took less money for himself so the Patriots could keep players under the salary cap.

What's pathetic is that the NFL has decided to go after one of the few players it has who doesn't act like a douche when they are off the field. You give the same suspension to Tom Brady (for destroying his phone) that you give to Greg Hardy for beating the shit out of his girlfriend? Really? You give a greater suspension to Brady than you do to Ray Rice? Really?

Roger Goodell is an idiot. Pure and simple.

He is a womanizer. He has children he leaves. But, that doesn't so much matter...after all he is a good looking man, right? If he were ugly I doubt a lot of these statements would be made.
I have been following Brady since the days of Michigan. He is ANYTHING but humble. More like an arrogant a$$.
He loses a game, what does he do? Storms off the field while the other players are congratulating the winning team. I have seen that many times myself.
He is a crybaby, and a poor sport.

If he weren't scared he'd be found out, and he had done nothing wrong, he would have turned the phone over, no problem. See? Turning it over would prove he is innocent, right?

Tom Brady has never been innocent. He is a spoiled brat. BUT, I admit he has helped me win some FF trophies.

Bottom line...cracks me up. People/women defending him because he looks good. Shallow.

Dont know about any of that...Hes actually not...looks like a fugly low budget 70s porn star. lol I think HE knows his time might be up.

New season is coming. I may not know as much about the game (history) and players as everyone else...but its still fun to watch.
Denver vs Seattle...19 13 were losing...but its raining, cold ( for the day) and football is on. ..... but you probably hate Seattle too lol oh well

His time is up? The guy just won MVP of the Super Bowl!
Are you here attempting to prove how little you know about the game of football? Because if that IS the case then you're off to a kick ass start!

WOW You big tough guy.....and we are skeered!

creepy mouth for football nonsense there kanola. lol

Just talking to the big tough guy.

 

[Papageorgio]

Alex - shut the **** up already.

Brady destroyed his phone which may very well have had the direct evidence the judge was asking for.

The NFL claims Brady broke his phone, also the NFL said they did not want the phone. Just give them the relevant phone numbers. So why does the NFL care what was done with the phone.

Both sides are lying, I find neither side credible.

 

[Oldstyle]

Alex - shut the **** up already.

Brady destroyed his phone which may very well have had the direct evidence the judge was asking for.

It also may very well have had any number of things totally unrelated to football. That's your problem, Phallics...you have zero direct evidence that the Patriots deliberately deflated footballs below the league minimum! You have zero evidence that Tom Brady ordered someone to deflate footballs below the league minimum!

What you HAVE is one ball that was substantially deflated...BUT THAT WAS THE BALL THAT THE COLTS HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION!!! Who's to say that it may very well have been the Colts who deflated that ball? There is fully as much evidence THAT took place as there is that the Patriots and Brady deflated that ball! So why aren't the Colts under investigation?

Not my problem at all I am discussing the issue in the OP, you are fixated on other things and claim to have special powers such as being able to ascertain Brady's intentions because you know him so well as a result of watching him play ball.

So the issue in the OP is Tom Brady's "affair" with his nanny? Bob Kraft cheating on his wife while she lies dying? How silly Tom Brady looks when he tries to dance? Bob Kraft's crooked teeth? You're so full of shit, Phallics...

You're an obsessive. You're obsessed with Tom Brady. You're obsessed with the Patriots. You're obsessed with me. Who puts two misquotes of someone else on the bottom of every post they make? Who does that? Someone who's got issues?

 

[Oldstyle]

Also the judge asked for direct evidence and the NFL said they had none.

The judge at a settlement conference asked for evidence? I can see you have not been to many settlement conferences. Keep on listening to the media hype.

He asked for direct evidence, it was in the story. No one has produced direct evidence, not even in the Wells report did they have direct evidence. That is because there is none.

LOL the Judge's role in this aspect of the proceedings is what exactly? Is he a finder of fact or there to compel each side to settle the issues?

So do you know of any direct evidence that links Brady with deflating footballs?

Brady destroyed evidence and refused to cooperate that makes the direct evidence which he was supposed to provide unavailable. Further is that the standard which the NFL was supposed to use or was it a preponderance of the evidence?

What direct evidence? Did it ever dawn on you that there is none? Ted Wells spent MILLIONS investigating this and at the end of the day the best he could come up with is that Tom Brady might have known about something that somebody else might have done. That isn't evidence...that's wishful thinking. This entire deflategate thing is a joke. It always was and it just gets more absurd the longer Roger Goodell lets it go on. If he wasn't such a complete moron he'd realize that. He spouts off about "the good of the league" when he's done more damage to the NFL with his rulings than a million under inflated footballs ever could.

 

[Alex.]

Alex - shut the **** up already.

Brady destroyed his phone which may very well have had the direct evidence the judge was asking for.

It also may very well have had any number of things totally unrelated to football. That's your problem, Phallics...you have zero direct evidence that the Patriots deliberately deflated footballs below the league minimum! You have zero evidence that Tom Brady ordered someone to deflate footballs below the league minimum!

What you HAVE is one ball that was substantially deflated...BUT THAT WAS THE BALL THAT THE COLTS HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION!!! Who's to say that it may very well have been the Colts who deflated that ball? There is fully as much evidence THAT took place as there is that the Patriots and Brady deflated that ball! So why aren't the Colts under investigation?

Not my problem at all I am discussing the issue in the OP, you are fixated on other things and claim to have special powers such as being able to ascertain Brady's intentions because you know him so well as a result of watching him play ball.

So the issue in the OP is Tom Brady's "affair" with his nanny? Bob Kraft cheating on his wife while she lies dying? How silly Tom Brady looks when he tries to dance? Bob Kraft's crooked teeth? You're so full of shit, Phallics...

You're an obsessive. You're obsessed with Tom Brady. You're obsessed with the Patriots. You're obsessed with me. Who puts two misquotes of someone else on the bottom of every post they make? Who does that? Someone who's got issues?

You are a sorry tool and simpleton. You are easily played and manipulated. A stooge for some public figure who could care less whether you are dead or alive let alone the mother of one of his children. This is what you introduced to this thread when you brought in Brady's family.

 

[Alex.]

The judge at a settlement conference asked for evidence? I can see you have not been to many settlement conferences. Keep on listening to the media hype.

He asked for direct evidence, it was in the story. No one has produced direct evidence, not even in the Wells report did they have direct evidence. That is because there is none.

LOL the Judge's role in this aspect of the proceedings is what exactly? Is he a finder of fact or there to compel each side to settle the issues?

So do you know of any direct evidence that links Brady with deflating footballs?

Brady destroyed evidence and refused to cooperate that makes the direct evidence which he was supposed to provide unavailable. Further is that the standard which the NFL was supposed to use or was it a preponderance of the evidence?

What direct evidence? Did it ever dawn on you that there is none? Ted Wells spent MILLIONS investigating this and at the end of the day the best he could come up with is that Tom Brady might have known about something that somebody else might have done. That isn't evidence...that's wishful thinking. This entire deflategate thing is a joke. It always was and it just gets more absurd the longer Roger Goodell lets it go on. If he wasn't such a complete moron he'd realize that. He spouts off about "the good of the league" when he's done more damage to the NFL with his rulings than a million under inflated footballs ever could.

Brady destroyed his phone when it and lied about it. Brady did not cooperate. Direct evidence?

"Based on the extensive record developed in the investigation and detailed in the Wells report, and after full consideration of this matter by the Commissioner and the Football Operations department, we have determined that the Patriots have violated the NFL's Policy on Integrity of the Game and Enforcement of Competitive Rules, as well as the Official Playing Rules and the established guidelines for the preparation of game footballs set forth in the NFL's Game Operations Policy Manual for Member Clubs. In making this determination, we have accepted the findings contained in the comprehensive report independently prepared by Mr. Wells and his colleagues.

"In determining that a violation occurred, we applied the standard of proof stated in the Integrity of the Game Policy: namely, preponderance of the evidence, meaning that 'as a whole, the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.' This is a well-recognized legal standard, which is applied in courts and workplaces every day throughout the country. The evidence gathered during the investigation and reviewed in the report more than satisfy this standard and demonstrate an ongoing plan by at least certain Patriots' employees to deflate footballs, to do so in a secretive manner after the game officials have certified the footballs as suitable for play, and to hide these activities even from their own supervisors."

NFL releases statement on Patriots violations - NFL.com

 

[Alex.]

Alex - shut the **** up already.

Brady destroyed his phone which may very well have had the direct evidence the judge was asking for.

The NFL claims Brady broke his phone, also the NFL said they did not want the phone. Just give them the relevant phone numbers. So why does the NFL care what was done with the phone.

Both sides are lying, I find neither side credible.

I look at the standard applied by the NFL and am satisfied they have met their burden. Brady is a liar and a con artist. I liked Brady before this, an underdog who worked hard to achieve greatness. Now he is just a 6th round draft pick who manipulated and broke the rules to get ahead. No more than a man who was ruled by his character defects to get ahead and could not give one **** about the institution or the people he crapped on.

 

[Oldstyle]

Alex - shut the **** up already.

Brady destroyed his phone which may very well have had the direct evidence the judge was asking for.

It also may very well have had any number of things totally unrelated to football. That's your problem, Phallics...you have zero direct evidence that the Patriots deliberately deflated footballs below the league minimum! You have zero evidence that Tom Brady ordered someone to deflate footballs below the league minimum!

What you HAVE is one ball that was substantially deflated...BUT THAT WAS THE BALL THAT THE COLTS HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION!!! Who's to say that it may very well have been the Colts who deflated that ball? There is fully as much evidence THAT took place as there is that the Patriots and Brady deflated that ball! So why aren't the Colts under investigation?

Not my problem at all I am discussing the issue in the OP, you are fixated on other things and claim to have special powers such as being able to ascertain Brady's intentions because you know him so well as a result of watching him play ball.

So the issue in the OP is Tom Brady's "affair" with his nanny? Bob Kraft cheating on his wife while she lies dying? How silly Tom Brady looks when he tries to dance? Bob Kraft's crooked teeth? You're so full of shit, Phallics...

You're an obsessive. You're obsessed with Tom Brady. You're obsessed with the Patriots. You're obsessed with me. Who puts two misquotes of someone else on the bottom of every post they make? Who does that? Someone who's got issues?

You are a sorry tool and simpleton. You are easily played and manipulated. A stooge for some public figure who could care less whether you are dead or alive let alone the mother of one of his children. This is what you introduced to this thread when you brought in Brady's family.

You think I'm the mother of Brady's children? What the hell are you babbling about? You seem to think that simple fairness makes me a "stooge". I think that anyone who believes Tom Brady deserves the same suspension as Greg Hardy is the simpleton.

As for the message that the NFL put out? Why is it that they claim that a preponderance of the evidence shows the Patriots knowingly deflated footballs to illegal levels...yet when the judge who is looking at this case asks them to provide direct evidence that took place...THEY HAVE NOTHING?

Are you so blinded by your hatred of all things Patriot that you can't see what's obvious?

 

[Oldstyle]

And since Tom Brady won numerous Super Bowls BEFORE teams were allowed to provide their own game balls...and kicked the tar out of the Colts with balls that were regulation as well as beat a heavily favored Seahawks team with regulation balls...it's laughable that you think he only succeeded because he cheated.

 

[Alex.]

Brady destroyed his phone which may very well have had the direct evidence the judge was asking for.

It also may very well have had any number of things totally unrelated to football. That's your problem, Phallics...you have zero direct evidence that the Patriots deliberately deflated footballs below the league minimum! You have zero evidence that Tom Brady ordered someone to deflate footballs below the league minimum!

What you HAVE is one ball that was substantially deflated...BUT THAT WAS THE BALL THAT THE COLTS HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION!!! Who's to say that it may very well have been the Colts who deflated that ball? There is fully as much evidence THAT took place as there is that the Patriots and Brady deflated that ball! So why aren't the Colts under investigation?

Not my problem at all I am discussing the issue in the OP, you are fixated on other things and claim to have special powers such as being able to ascertain Brady's intentions because you know him so well as a result of watching him play ball.

So the issue in the OP is Tom Brady's "affair" with his nanny? Bob Kraft cheating on his wife while she lies dying? How silly Tom Brady looks when he tries to dance? Bob Kraft's crooked teeth? You're so full of shit, Phallics...

You're an obsessive. You're obsessed with Tom Brady. You're obsessed with the Patriots. You're obsessed with me. Who puts two misquotes of someone else on the bottom of every post they make? Who does that? Someone who's got issues?

You are a sorry tool and simpleton. You are easily played and manipulated. A stooge for some public figure who could care less whether you are dead or alive let alone the mother of one of his children. This is what you introduced to this thread when you brought in Brady's family.

You think I'm the mother of Brady's children? What the hell are you babbling about? You seem to think that simple fairness makes me a "stooge". I think that anyone who believes Tom Brady deserves the same suspension as Greg Hardy is the simpleton.

As for the message that the NFL put out? Why is it that they claim that a preponderance of the evidence shows the Patriots knowingly deflated footballs to illegal levels...yet when the judge who is looking at this case asks them to provide direct evidence that took place...THEY HAVE NOTHING?

Are you so blinded by your hatred of all things Patriot that you can't see what's obvious?

No, however, I think you should join your dominatrix "turkey neck" and go to a rehab to get sober.

 

[Oldstyle]

Who really cares about the good of the NFL? Tom Brady who's put his heart and soul into the game for 15 years or a commissioner like Roger Goodell who's handling of the Ray Rice, Adrian Petersen and Greg Hardy cases have revealed that he is more worried about public opinion than the good of the game?

 

[Oldstyle]

It also may very well have had any number of things totally unrelated to football. That's your problem, Phallics...you have zero direct evidence that the Patriots deliberately deflated footballs below the league minimum! You have zero evidence that Tom Brady ordered someone to deflate footballs below the league minimum!

What you HAVE is one ball that was substantially deflated...BUT THAT WAS THE BALL THAT THE COLTS HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION!!! Who's to say that it may very well have been the Colts who deflated that ball? There is fully as much evidence THAT took place as there is that the Patriots and Brady deflated that ball! So why aren't the Colts under investigation?

Not my problem at all I am discussing the issue in the OP, you are fixated on other things and claim to have special powers such as being able to ascertain Brady's intentions because you know him so well as a result of watching him play ball.

So the issue in the OP is Tom Brady's "affair" with his nanny? Bob Kraft cheating on his wife while she lies dying? How silly Tom Brady looks when he tries to dance? Bob Kraft's crooked teeth? You're so full of shit, Phallics...

You're an obsessive. You're obsessed with Tom Brady. You're obsessed with the Patriots. You're obsessed with me. Who puts two misquotes of someone else on the bottom of every post they make? Who does that? Someone who's got issues?

You are a sorry tool and simpleton. You are easily played and manipulated. A stooge for some public figure who could care less whether you are dead or alive let alone the mother of one of his children. This is what you introduced to this thread when you brought in Brady's family.

You think I'm the mother of Brady's children? What the hell are you babbling about? You seem to think that simple fairness makes me a "stooge". I think that anyone who believes Tom Brady deserves the same suspension as Greg Hardy is the simpleton.

As for the message that the NFL put out? Why is it that they claim that a preponderance of the evidence shows the Patriots knowingly deflated footballs to illegal levels...yet when the judge who is looking at this case asks them to provide direct evidence that took place...THEY HAVE NOTHING?

Are you so blinded by your hatred of all things Patriot that you can't see what's obvious?

No, however, I think you should join your dominatrix "turkey neck" and go to a rehab to get sober.

Now you've gotten a little "dominatrix" fantasy going with the rest of your day dreams about Tom Brady's package? You might want to think about putting a little salt peter in with your morning breakfast, Phallics...you're getting all hot and bothered again!

 

[Alex.]

And since Tom Brady won numerous Super Bowls BEFORE teams were allowed to provide their own game balls...and kicked the tar out of the Colts with balls that were regulation as well as beat a heavily favored Seahawks team with regulation balls...it's laughable that you think he only succeeded because he cheated.

It is more then balls, look at the history and culture of cheating of the Patriots Brady not only approved of this by conduct but he benefited as a result.

 

[Oldstyle]

Tom Brady's packageTom Brady's jockstrapTom Brady's package

Why do I get the feeling that the above is about all that's running through your warped little mind?

 

[Alex.]

Who really cares about the good of the NFL? Tom Brady who's put his heart and soul into the game for 15 years or a commissioner like Roger Goodell who's handling of the Ray Rice, Adrian Petersen and Greg Hardy cases have revealed that he is more worried about public opinion than the good of the game?

Oldstyle: "Who really cares about the good of the NFL?"<<<<<

Out of all the moronic statements and inane posts you have made this one truly addresses why you will never be more than a maiden in waiting for Tom Brady defending his defenseless actions and justifying everything he and the Patriots have done no matter how much they cheat and lie.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Brady destroyed evidence and refused to cooperate that makes the direct evidence which he was supposed to provide unavailable. Further is that the standard which the NFL was supposed to use or was it a preponderance of the evidence?

So you admit you have no evidence, only excuses for why you don't have evidence, lol.

You are truly a moron.