Patriots Super Bowl ring

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I don't see how any objective person could know the below facts and still not even QUESTION how the NFL has conducted itself here.

1. The NFL's General Counsel, Jeff Pash, was allowed to edit the "independent" Wells Report before it was released.

2. The NFL sent the Patriots a letter the day after the AFC Championship where they make the entirely false allegation that one of the balls was measured at 10.1 PSI. Not a single reading was this low, and Gardi's letter made it impossible for the Patriots to fight the tampering allegations properly.

3. The NFL repeatedly refused to correct reports that "11/12 balls were deflated by up to 2 lbs", despite the fact that they were the only ones with the correct information. They still have NEVER refuted this report. By comparison, over the weekend there was a rumor that Mike Kensil had been removed from the NFL Operations team page, and the NFL corrected THAT rumor practically within the hour.

4. For months, the NFL refused to give the Patriots information on what the PSI readings had been, leaving them unable to fight false accusations with facts.

5. The NFL refused to address the Patriot's repeated requests to help contain leaks, all of which made the Patriots look bad, and most of which were demonstrably FALSE, despite the Patriots practically begging for help and information that would allow them to protect their brand.


I hope Brady and the NFLPA burn the NFL to the ground over this. And whether you like the Patriots/Brady or not, it should worry every fan of the NFL that this all went down the way it did. Next time it could easily be your favorite team or player being railroaded without any evidence simply to appease public opinion.

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

 

[Oldstyle]

This whole "scandal" is a farce! It turns out that out of the 12 "game balls" that were measured by the NFL...only one of them had a large amount of pressure taken out of it and that's the ball that the Colts had in their possession and turned over to the officials while complaining that the Patriots were "cheating"! The other 11 balls were only slightly under inflated...something that could be explained by temperature changes from inside a warm locker room to outside on a cold, rainy day or that they were measured with the "long, bent needle" that gave a higher reading. So the question I have is this...do you believe that the Patriots would have altered one ball to that extent but not the other 11 balls...and if that makes absolutely no sense at all (which it doesn't) then who let all that air out of the ball the Colts had in their possession?

 

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cheatriot apologists are "doubling-down"

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I don't see how any objective person could know the below facts and still not even QUESTION how the NFL has conducted itself here.

1. The NFL's General Counsel, Jeff Pash, was allowed to edit the "independent" Wells Report before it was released.

2. The NFL sent the Patriots a letter the day after the AFC Championship where they make the entirely false allegation that one of the balls was measured at 10.1 PSI. Not a single reading was this low, and Gardi's letter made it impossible for the Patriots to fight the tampering allegations properly.

3. The NFL repeatedly refused to correct reports that "11/12 balls were deflated by up to 2 lbs", despite the fact that they were the only ones with the correct information. They still have NEVER refuted this report. By comparison, over the weekend there was a rumor that Mike Kensil had been removed from the NFL Operations team page, and the NFL corrected THAT rumor practically within the hour.

4. For months, the NFL refused to give the Patriots information on what the PSI readings had been, leaving them unable to fight false accusations with facts.

5. The NFL refused to address the Patriot's repeated requests to help contain leaks, all of which made the Patriots look bad, and most of which were demonstrably FALSE, despite the Patriots practically begging for help and information that would allow them to protect their brand.


I hope Brady and the NFLPA burn the NFL to the ground over this. And whether you like the Patriots/Brady or not, it should worry every fan of the NFL that this all went down the way it did. Next time it could easily be your favorite team or player being railroaded without any evidence simply to appease public opinion.

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

they dont want to remember any history that exposes them as cheaters.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I am crossing my fingers this turns out to be true.Goddel has way too much power behind his throne.

Insider Buzz Owners Want to Reduce Goodell s Power After Deflategate Debacle Bleacher Report

 

[JimBowie1958]

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

Which proves nothing about the current case, moron.

 

[mack20]

I don't see how any objective person could know the below facts and still not even QUESTION how the NFL has conducted itself here.

1. The NFL's General Counsel, Jeff Pash, was allowed to edit the "independent" Wells Report before it was released.

2. The NFL sent the Patriots a letter the day after the AFC Championship where they make the entirely false allegation that one of the balls was measured at 10.1 PSI. Not a single reading was this low, and Gardi's letter made it impossible for the Patriots to fight the tampering allegations properly.

3. The NFL repeatedly refused to correct reports that "11/12 balls were deflated by up to 2 lbs", despite the fact that they were the only ones with the correct information. They still have NEVER refuted this report. By comparison, over the weekend there was a rumor that Mike Kensil had been removed from the NFL Operations team page, and the NFL corrected THAT rumor practically within the hour.

4. For months, the NFL refused to give the Patriots information on what the PSI readings had been, leaving them unable to fight false accusations with facts.

5. The NFL refused to address the Patriot's repeated requests to help contain leaks, all of which made the Patriots look bad, and most of which were demonstrably FALSE, despite the Patriots practically begging for help and information that would allow them to protect their brand.


I hope Brady and the NFLPA burn the NFL to the ground over this. And whether you like the Patriots/Brady or not, it should worry every fan of the NFL that this all went down the way it did. Next time it could easily be your favorite team or player being railroaded without any evidence simply to appease public opinion.

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

Newsflash, they were punished for taping from the wrong location (NOT taping itself) for 1 half of 1 game in 2007. A violation which had previously been given a slap on the wrist. Not only that, but Belichick immediately took responsibility for it.

Second newsflash, what happened in 2007 has jack shit to do with this and only a complete moron would think it did. So...yeah, I guess that explains your stance on things after all.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

two farts in a row from the trolls.^

 

[Oldstyle]

I'd like one of the Patriot "haters" to explain how having one ball nearly two pounds under inflated and another 11 balls only slightly under inflated would be a competitive advantage to Tom Brady! Why would someone as detail oriented as Brady have one ball out of twelve that was that far off? Game balls get rotated constantly on a rain soaked day like that so that they can be kept as dry as possible. So how would Brady know which ball he was getting...the one that was under inflated by two pounds or the ones that were right at the limit? It's not like he gets to step up to the line and feel the ball to judge it's inflation level. I'm sorry but if you REALLY think about it...it makes no sense at all! What does make sense is that the Colts had possession of the ball that was grossly under inflated and they were the ones who lodged a complaint with the officials. So who was it that stood to gain from forcing Brady to play with balls slightly harder than he preferred? Who wouldn't have had a Patriots game ball in their possession UNTIL their defensive back intercepted a Brady pass in the second quarter and only THEN complained to the referee that the New England Patriot's ball was under inflated? Why did the Colt's defensive back, D. Jackson state that the ball felt fine to him when he intercepted it if it was THAT under inflated yet when the Colt's coaching staff complained to the referee and had them test the ball it was GROSSLY under inflated?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

and still another fart from old FARTSTYLE.

 

[Oldstyle]

I am crossing my fingers this turns out to be true.Goddel has way too much power behind his throne.

Insider Buzz Owners Want to Reduce Goodell s Power After Deflategate Debacle Bleacher Report

Roger fucked over his biggest supporter, Robert Kraft and one of the NFL's marquee players, Tom Brady. Now he pays the price. Stupid, Roger! Really...really...STUPID!

 

[JimBowie1958]

and still another fart from old FARTSTYLE.

Tracking fart counts over the internet?

Well at least you are of *Some* use, lol.

 

[Dot Com]

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

Which proves nothing about the current case, moron.

reduced to name calling so early in the game?

Your concession is

 

[Papageorgio]

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

Which proves nothing about the current case, moron.

reduced to name calling so early in the game?

Your concession is

Pot meet kettle.

 

[mack20]

Looking forward to digging in to the appeal transcript. So far the NFL isn't looking that great, probably why they argued for the record to remain sealed while Brady and the NFLPA wanted it released.

 

[Papageorgio]

The NFL looks like the bully on the block but you never know how judges will rule.

 

[Oldstyle]

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

Which proves nothing about the current case, moron.

reduced to name calling so early in the game?

Your concession is

The Patriots got jobbed back in 2007 and then THAT was used as the excuse to take away draft picks, a million dollars and the services of one of the leagues best quarterbacks for four games this season!

 

[mack20]

A few things so far:
1. Brady insisted on testifying under oath. Even though it wasn't in court I'm under the impression that since it was a sworn deposition he could still be punished for perjury.

2. Brady, under oath(which he requested), categorically denies ever, in his entire career, being either involved in or having knowledge of intentional deflation of footballs.

3. Wells confirms that Brady was never given any indication that not handing over his cell phone would result in punishment. The precedent was a 50k fine. Brady testified that if he had been made aware of the potential for punishment, he would have turned over his phone against the advice of his lawyer.

Honestly, not only do Wells and the NFL come out looking completely inept, I think the NFLPA has a solid case here, even if they're solely arguing the way in which the punishment was meted out and not the supposed infraction itself.

 

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so did he smash his phone? Is that how one typically does things?

 

[Oldstyle]

NEWSFLASH!!!

They were caught cheating in 2007 as well or did you conveniently forget that fact. They have a record of doing it.

Which proves nothing about the current case, moron.

reduced to name calling so early in the game?

Your concession is

So did you want to take a crack at explaining why the only ball that was under inflated beyond what one might expect from changing temperatures is the one ball that the Colts had in THEIR possession? How did THAT ball get to be over two pounds under inflated while every other ball (all 11 of them!) were only slightly under inflated?

Or did you want to run away from that question?