Patriots Super Bowl ring

[Papageorgio]

I address the person from the part of the body where they spout their nonsense. Not my fault you talk through your ass.

You are the one going on about everybody's imagined 'butt hurt' so it is your obsession, not mine, twit.

Exactly. They are the ones who start these threads and whine incessantly about the Patriots. Well, we still have our SB trophy and our rings. We aren't the ones with the hurting butts around here. Let them wallow in their misery over a football. It's really funny when you think about it.

The rings are meaningless compared to how much cheating the Patriots did to get those rings. Brady has shot himself in the foot and his legacy is tarnished forever.

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Yep the National Felons League is still fairly entertaining, but it amounts to simply grown men playing a child's game.

Why do these Cro Magnons get paid so much for doing NOTHING to protect/serve our nation? Meanwhile we have veterans living on the streets and on welfare.

It is a disgrace. Bread and Circuses to distract the masses while the Oligarchs steal our Republic and turn it into a fractured Balkanized wreck sucked out of every dime these parasites can bleed from it.

 

[Papageorgio]

Aren't you the self righteous bull shitter.

Nah just a consumer of the goods and the services that the NFL puts out. I can see that you are in cry baby mode, I will let this one pass. Care to discuss the role of the Commissioner in the NFL together with his powers and responsibilities?

I know what his responsibilities are. Never have questioned them.

Not in any mode pup, not sure why you keep bringing butt hurt and cry baby. I think you protest too much.

We will see where this goes and I'm not sure how it will turn out. Judges aren't dependable. It depends on what the judge will take into consideration and what he wants to let in. The courts will typically side with the players but we never know.

You have been listening to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims by the NFLPA and regurgitating that spew.

And I have read the NFL site listened to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims of the NFL. My opinion is different than yours, I read both sides and formed an opinion from there. Not sure what you have read or listened to, obviously you have a different opinion. I think Brady is being railroaded. List me all the other players in the history of the NFL suspended or fined for obstructing an NFL investigation. Name all the other NFL players that have been fined or suspended for tampering with the equipment. Name all the NFL players that have been fined or suspended by the NFL for tampering with footballs and football tampering has been a staple in the league for decades.

Not saying Brady was right or wrong but the league for some reason has it out for him. Which is where I have the issue.

While I listen to hacks, I know it is their job to generate income they do that by exploiting the issue and the audience it keeps people listening. I do not read the NFL site for helping me decide the issue rather I look at the CBA, it's history and apply the facts that have been provided. The Commissioner was given broad powers in the NFL, any reviews of Commissioner Goodell’s actions are only reviewable to him. It provides no independent review and grants Commissioner Goodell near unlimited power. I would not have agreed to that but Brady sure did when he filed a lawsuit against the NFL.

You are correct, however the CBA also calls for the NFL to have specific penalties for specific infractions. The NFL had no specific penalties for an NFL player inflating or deflating a football. The NFL has no specific penalties for obstruction. The CBA says that you have to have specific penalties, Brady it had none. That violates the CBA and even though Goodell has and should have broad powers, he has limits and guidelines he has to follow, I think he stepped out. I realize you think you have an unbiased superior opinion, but all you have is an opinion and the federal judge will have the only opinion that matters.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Nah just a consumer of the goods and the services that the NFL puts out. I can see that you are in cry baby mode, I will let this one pass. Care to discuss the role of the Commissioner in the NFL together with his powers and responsibilities?

I know what his responsibilities are. Never have questioned them.

Not in any mode pup, not sure why you keep bringing butt hurt and cry baby. I think you protest too much.

We will see where this goes and I'm not sure how it will turn out. Judges aren't dependable. It depends on what the judge will take into consideration and what he wants to let in. The courts will typically side with the players but we never know.

You have been listening to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims by the NFLPA and regurgitating that spew.

And I have read the NFL site listened to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims of the NFL. My opinion is different than yours, I read both sides and formed an opinion from there. Not sure what you have read or listened to, obviously you have a different opinion. I think Brady is being railroaded. List me all the other players in the history of the NFL suspended or fined for obstructing an NFL investigation. Name all the other NFL players that have been fined or suspended for tampering with the equipment. Name all the NFL players that have been fined or suspended by the NFL for tampering with footballs and football tampering has been a staple in the league for decades.

Not saying Brady was right or wrong but the league for some reason has it out for him. Which is where I have the issue.

While I listen to hacks, I know it is their job to generate income they do that by exploiting the issue and the audience it keeps people listening. I do not read the NFL site for helping me decide the issue rather I look at the CBA, it's history and apply the facts that have been provided. The Commissioner was given broad powers in the NFL, any reviews of Commissioner Goodell’s actions are only reviewable to him. It provides no independent review and grants Commissioner Goodell near unlimited power. I would not have agreed to that but Brady sure did when he filed a lawsuit against the NFL.

You are correct, however the CBA also calls for the NFL to have specific penalties for specific infractions. The NFL had no specific penalties for an NFL player inflating or deflating a football. The NFL has no specific penalties for obstruction. The CBA says that you have to have specific penalties, Brady it had none. That violates the CBA and even though Goodell has and should have broad powers, he has limits and guidelines he has to follow, I think he stepped out. I realize you think you have an unbiased superior opinion, but all you have is an opinion and the federal judge will have the only opinion that matters.

What are these pesky facts you keep bringing up? Alex is a wizard and he reshapes Reality to be whatever he wants it to be!

Just because the CBA calls for specific penalties to exist before hitting someone else with them doesn't mean that Goodell has to abide by it! Why he can just make up anything he wants and stick it to the unpopular Brady like any good fascist can do and the libtards will yell approval from the mountain tops.

Here's your Participation Trophy.

/sarc

Goodell is a disgrace and the NFL needs to lose its exemption from our anti-monopoly laws.

 

[Alex.]

You are the one going on about everybody's imagined 'butt hurt' so it is your obsession, not mine, twit.

Exactly. They are the ones who start these threads and whine incessantly about the Patriots. Well, we still have our SB trophy and our rings. We aren't the ones with the hurting butts around here. Let them wallow in their misery over a football. It's really funny when you think about it.

The rings are meaningless compared to how much cheating the Patriots did to get those rings. Brady has shot himself in the foot and his legacy is tarnished forever.

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

 

[Alex.]

I know what his responsibilities are. Never have questioned them.

Not in any mode pup, not sure why you keep bringing butt hurt and cry baby. I think you protest too much.

We will see where this goes and I'm not sure how it will turn out. Judges aren't dependable. It depends on what the judge will take into consideration and what he wants to let in. The courts will typically side with the players but we never know.

You have been listening to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims by the NFLPA and regurgitating that spew.

And I have read the NFL site listened to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims of the NFL. My opinion is different than yours, I read both sides and formed an opinion from there. Not sure what you have read or listened to, obviously you have a different opinion. I think Brady is being railroaded. List me all the other players in the history of the NFL suspended or fined for obstructing an NFL investigation. Name all the other NFL players that have been fined or suspended for tampering with the equipment. Name all the NFL players that have been fined or suspended by the NFL for tampering with footballs and football tampering has been a staple in the league for decades.

Not saying Brady was right or wrong but the league for some reason has it out for him. Which is where I have the issue.

While I listen to hacks, I know it is their job to generate income they do that by exploiting the issue and the audience it keeps people listening. I do not read the NFL site for helping me decide the issue rather I look at the CBA, it's history and apply the facts that have been provided. The Commissioner was given broad powers in the NFL, any reviews of Commissioner Goodell’s actions are only reviewable to him. It provides no independent review and grants Commissioner Goodell near unlimited power. I would not have agreed to that but Brady sure did when he filed a lawsuit against the NFL.

You are correct, however the CBA also calls for the NFL to have specific penalties for specific infractions. The NFL had no specific penalties for an NFL player inflating or deflating a football. The NFL has no specific penalties for obstruction. The CBA says that you have to have specific penalties, Brady it had none. That violates the CBA and even though Goodell has and should have broad powers, he has limits and guidelines he has to follow, I think he stepped out. I realize you think you have an unbiased superior opinion, but all you have is an opinion and the federal judge will have the only opinion that matters.

What are these pesky facts you keep bringing up? Alex is a wizard and he reshapes Reality to be whatever he wants it to be!

Just because the CBA calls for specific penalties to exist before hitting someone else with them doesn't mean that Goodell has to abide by it! Why he can just make up anything he wants and stick it to the unpopular Brady like any good fascist can do and the libtards will yell approval from the mountain tops.

Here's your Participation Trophy.

/sarc

Goodell is a disgrace and the NFL needs to lose its exemption from our anti-monopoly laws.

You are a disgrace but we keep you around for shits and giggles. Now go and have a hair of the dog that bit ya for heaven's sake.

 

[Papageorgio]

Exactly. They are the ones who start these threads and whine incessantly about the Patriots. Well, we still have our SB trophy and our rings. We aren't the ones with the hurting butts around here. Let them wallow in their misery over a football. It's really funny when you think about it.

The rings are meaningless compared to how much cheating the Patriots did to get those rings. Brady has shot himself in the foot and his legacy is tarnished forever.

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

 

[Alex.]

The rings are meaningless compared to how much cheating the Patriots did to get those rings. Brady has shot himself in the foot and his legacy is tarnished forever.

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

You went from the issue at hand to now discussing domestic abuse, philosophy and the value of the social animal in relation to self esteem issues. .

I was having an interesting discussion with you, where has there been a situation such as Brady's that would establish precedent where you feel the Commission should have followed but did not?

 

[JimBowie1958]

You have been listening to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims by the NFLPA and regurgitating that spew.

And I have read the NFL site listened to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims of the NFL. My opinion is different than yours, I read both sides and formed an opinion from there. Not sure what you have read or listened to, obviously you have a different opinion. I think Brady is being railroaded. List me all the other players in the history of the NFL suspended or fined for obstructing an NFL investigation. Name all the other NFL players that have been fined or suspended for tampering with the equipment. Name all the NFL players that have been fined or suspended by the NFL for tampering with footballs and football tampering has been a staple in the league for decades.

Not saying Brady was right or wrong but the league for some reason has it out for him. Which is where I have the issue.

While I listen to hacks, I know it is their job to generate income they do that by exploiting the issue and the audience it keeps people listening. I do not read the NFL site for helping me decide the issue rather I look at the CBA, it's history and apply the facts that have been provided. The Commissioner was given broad powers in the NFL, any reviews of Commissioner Goodell’s actions are only reviewable to him. It provides no independent review and grants Commissioner Goodell near unlimited power. I would not have agreed to that but Brady sure did when he filed a lawsuit against the NFL.

You are correct, however the CBA also calls for the NFL to have specific penalties for specific infractions. The NFL had no specific penalties for an NFL player inflating or deflating a football. The NFL has no specific penalties for obstruction. The CBA says that you have to have specific penalties, Brady it had none. That violates the CBA and even though Goodell has and should have broad powers, he has limits and guidelines he has to follow, I think he stepped out. I realize you think you have an unbiased superior opinion, but all you have is an opinion and the federal judge will have the only opinion that matters.

What are these pesky facts you keep bringing up? Alex is a wizard and he reshapes Reality to be whatever he wants it to be!

Just because the CBA calls for specific penalties to exist before hitting someone else with them doesn't mean that Goodell has to abide by it! Why he can just make up anything he wants and stick it to the unpopular Brady like any good fascist can do and the libtards will yell approval from the mountain tops.

Here's your Participation Trophy.

/sarc

Goodell is a disgrace and the NFL needs to lose its exemption from our anti-monopoly laws.

You are a disgrace but we keep you around for shits and giggles. Now go and have a hair of the dog that bit ya for heaven's sake.

You still present no facts, no reasoning, just mockery and name calling. That is all you've got, dude.

IT is painfully obvious that you are out of your depth and were it not for your complete lack of shame you would have left this thread a long time ago.

 

[Alex.]

And I have read the NFL site listened to talk show personalities and reading the biased claims of the NFL. My opinion is different than yours, I read both sides and formed an opinion from there. Not sure what you have read or listened to, obviously you have a different opinion. I think Brady is being railroaded. List me all the other players in the history of the NFL suspended or fined for obstructing an NFL investigation. Name all the other NFL players that have been fined or suspended for tampering with the equipment. Name all the NFL players that have been fined or suspended by the NFL for tampering with footballs and football tampering has been a staple in the league for decades.

Not saying Brady was right or wrong but the league for some reason has it out for him. Which is where I have the issue.

While I listen to hacks, I know it is their job to generate income they do that by exploiting the issue and the audience it keeps people listening. I do not read the NFL site for helping me decide the issue rather I look at the CBA, it's history and apply the facts that have been provided. The Commissioner was given broad powers in the NFL, any reviews of Commissioner Goodell’s actions are only reviewable to him. It provides no independent review and grants Commissioner Goodell near unlimited power. I would not have agreed to that but Brady sure did when he filed a lawsuit against the NFL.

You are correct, however the CBA also calls for the NFL to have specific penalties for specific infractions. The NFL had no specific penalties for an NFL player inflating or deflating a football. The NFL has no specific penalties for obstruction. The CBA says that you have to have specific penalties, Brady it had none. That violates the CBA and even though Goodell has and should have broad powers, he has limits and guidelines he has to follow, I think he stepped out. I realize you think you have an unbiased superior opinion, but all you have is an opinion and the federal judge will have the only opinion that matters.

What are these pesky facts you keep bringing up? Alex is a wizard and he reshapes Reality to be whatever he wants it to be!

Just because the CBA calls for specific penalties to exist before hitting someone else with them doesn't mean that Goodell has to abide by it! Why he can just make up anything he wants and stick it to the unpopular Brady like any good fascist can do and the libtards will yell approval from the mountain tops.

Here's your Participation Trophy.

/sarc

Goodell is a disgrace and the NFL needs to lose its exemption from our anti-monopoly laws.

You are a disgrace but we keep you around for shits and giggles. Now go and have a hair of the dog that bit ya for heaven's sake.

You still present no facts, no reasoning, just mockery and name calling. That is all you've got, dude.

IT is painfully obvious that you are out of your depth and were it not for your complete lack of shame you would have left this thread a long time ago.

Of course I have presented facts and attempted to engage you in a discussion, you response was to call me a NAZI. That is truly weird.

 

[JimBowie1958]

While I listen to hacks, I know it is their job to generate income they do that by exploiting the issue and the audience it keeps people listening. I do not read the NFL site for helping me decide the issue rather I look at the CBA, it's history and apply the facts that have been provided. The Commissioner was given broad powers in the NFL, any reviews of Commissioner Goodell’s actions are only reviewable to him. It provides no independent review and grants Commissioner Goodell near unlimited power. I would not have agreed to that but Brady sure did when he filed a lawsuit against the NFL.

You are correct, however the CBA also calls for the NFL to have specific penalties for specific infractions. The NFL had no specific penalties for an NFL player inflating or deflating a football. The NFL has no specific penalties for obstruction. The CBA says that you have to have specific penalties, Brady it had none. That violates the CBA and even though Goodell has and should have broad powers, he has limits and guidelines he has to follow, I think he stepped out. I realize you think you have an unbiased superior opinion, but all you have is an opinion and the federal judge will have the only opinion that matters.

What are these pesky facts you keep bringing up? Alex is a wizard and he reshapes Reality to be whatever he wants it to be!

Just because the CBA calls for specific penalties to exist before hitting someone else with them doesn't mean that Goodell has to abide by it! Why he can just make up anything he wants and stick it to the unpopular Brady like any good fascist can do and the libtards will yell approval from the mountain tops.

Here's your Participation Trophy.

/sarc

Goodell is a disgrace and the NFL needs to lose its exemption from our anti-monopoly laws.

You are a disgrace but we keep you around for shits and giggles. Now go and have a hair of the dog that bit ya for heaven's sake.

You still present no facts, no reasoning, just mockery and name calling. That is all you've got, dude.

IT is painfully obvious that you are out of your depth and were it not for your complete lack of shame you would have left this thread a long time ago.

Of course I have presented facts and attempted to engage you in a discussion, you response was to call me a NAZI. That is truly weird.

You have not presented any facts that are relevant to the case that Brady is in.

What facts prove Brady guilty of tampering with the footballs?

 

[Alex.]

You are correct, however the CBA also calls for the NFL to have specific penalties for specific infractions. The NFL had no specific penalties for an NFL player inflating or deflating a football. The NFL has no specific penalties for obstruction. The CBA says that you have to have specific penalties, Brady it had none. That violates the CBA and even though Goodell has and should have broad powers, he has limits and guidelines he has to follow, I think he stepped out. I realize you think you have an unbiased superior opinion, but all you have is an opinion and the federal judge will have the only opinion that matters.

What are these pesky facts you keep bringing up? Alex is a wizard and he reshapes Reality to be whatever he wants it to be!

Just because the CBA calls for specific penalties to exist before hitting someone else with them doesn't mean that Goodell has to abide by it! Why he can just make up anything he wants and stick it to the unpopular Brady like any good fascist can do and the libtards will yell approval from the mountain tops.

Here's your Participation Trophy.

/sarc

Goodell is a disgrace and the NFL needs to lose its exemption from our anti-monopoly laws.

You are a disgrace but we keep you around for shits and giggles. Now go and have a hair of the dog that bit ya for heaven's sake.

You still present no facts, no reasoning, just mockery and name calling. That is all you've got, dude.

IT is painfully obvious that you are out of your depth and were it not for your complete lack of shame you would have left this thread a long time ago.

Of course I have presented facts and attempted to engage you in a discussion, you response was to call me a NAZI. That is truly weird.

You have not presented any facts that are relevant to the case that Brady is in.

What facts prove Brady guilty of tampering with the footballs?

Guilt is a standard used in a criminal trial not in the arbitration that Brady agreed to in the CBA.

 

[Dot Com]

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

You went from the issue at hand to now discussing domestic abuse, philosophy and the value of the social animal in relation to self esteem issues. .

I was having an interesting discussion with you, where has there been a situation such as Brady's that would establish precedent where you feel the Commission should have followed but did not?

Thats our Papageorgio

 

[Papageorgio]

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

You went from the issue at hand to now discussing domestic abuse, philosophy and the value of the social animal in relation to self esteem issues. .

I was having an interesting discussion with you, where has there been a situation such as Brady's that would establish precedent where you feel the Commission should have followed but did not?

I'm sorry I didn't take your name calling as a discussion.
You spoke of popularity, integrity of the game. The abuse issues have hurt the integrity of the game and yet we see two cases where Goodell was reeled in by the federal courts. I expect the same to happen.

 

[Papageorgio]

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

You went from the issue at hand to now discussing domestic abuse, philosophy and the value of the social animal in relation to self esteem issues. .

I was having an interesting discussion with you, where has there been a situation such as Brady's that would establish precedent where you feel the Commission should have followed but did not?

Thats our Papageorgio

The ******* little ***** that adds nothing to any thread spews a bunch of shit. How surprising.

 

[Alex.]

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

You went from the issue at hand to now discussing domestic abuse, philosophy and the value of the social animal in relation to self esteem issues. .

I was having an interesting discussion with you, where has there been a situation such as Brady's that would establish precedent where you feel the Commission should have followed but did not?

I'm sorry I didn't take your name calling as a discussion.
You spoke of popularity, integrity of the game. The abuse issues have hurt the integrity of the game and yet we see two cases where Goodell was reeled in by the federal courts. I expect the same to happen.

Maybe he should be reeled in but that is what the players voted for. This is bigger than Brady and bigger than Goodell.

 

[Papageorgio]

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

You went from the issue at hand to now discussing domestic abuse, philosophy and the value of the social animal in relation to self esteem issues. .

I was having an interesting discussion with you, where has there been a situation such as Brady's that would establish precedent where you feel the Commission should have followed but did not?

I'm sorry I didn't take your name calling as a discussion.
You spoke of popularity, integrity of the game. The abuse issues have hurt the integrity of the game and yet we see two cases where Goodell was reeled in by the federal courts. I expect the same to happen.

Maybe he should be reeled in but that is what the players voted for. This is bigger than Brady and bigger than Goodell.

Ok

 

[ChrisL]

The rings are meaningless compared to how much cheating the Patriots did to get those rings. Brady has shot himself in the foot and his legacy is tarnished forever.

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

I know, but this was a slightly deflated football. Lol. So much more serious than beating your wife.

 

[ChrisL]

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Yep the National Felons League is still fairly entertaining, but it amounts to simply grown men playing a child's game.

Why do these Cro Magnons get paid so much for doing NOTHING to protect/serve our nation? Meanwhile we have veterans living on the streets and on welfare.

It is a disgrace. Bread and Circuses to distract the masses while the Oligarchs steal our Republic and turn it into a fractured Balkanized wreck sucked out of every dime these parasites can bleed from it.

Good point, but it's because of paying fans. The NFL makes a KILLING. Unfortunately, the military doesn't have many fans willing to pay to see them work.

 

[Alex.]

Only in your opinion, again, your opinion is just as useless as mine or anyone else. Big scheme, next decade this is forgotten and Brady will always be mentioned with Montana, Manning, Marino and others.

I was watching Mike and Mike and several players said Brady will go down as a great QB. Montana had his receivers use stick'um, no one today cares that he did.

Each person who holds an opinion is a preferential source of income for the NFL, so you may consider yourself useless, me I am careful where I spend my money. This whole process has hurt the NFL, they are a business and the product does not look so good unless you like cheating and lying to be the standard by which a player is held in high esteem.

The product will produce record attendance, it will produce record ticket sales, record TV ratings, record merchandise sales, this year.

I am long past as are most NFL fans, of holding the players in high esteem. Many are or were gang members. Many beat their wives, commit crimes and do drugs. They aren't any better than you or I. They are just people and some not very nice.

The whole idea that you are careful where you spend your money, is insinuating that I am not, which you have no clue how or what I spend my money on. I will tell you this, I don't buy NFL jerseys, I have a Raiders glass, blanket, slippers, key chain and mug, none of which I bought, they were gifts. My opinion of the NFL has changed and with the Rice, Hardy and Peterson issues. Brady not so much. Just my opinion and you have yours, you and your opinion is no better than mine, in spite what you try to infer.

Better opinion? Your self esteem is not my concern.


The success of the NFL is based on each individual fan/consumer of the goods or services offered and success is contingent upon each individual making a choice to support the NFL through purchasing the goods or services. Each time the NFL or player for the NFL does something that harms the brand it potentially jeopardizes the success of the NFL in the long run.

No self esteem issue Alex. I have an opinion as do you, you aren't any better than I am. We are all equal, just stating a fact of life.

Domestic abuse seems to be the big issue in the NFL and they way the NFL has handled itself is probably the biggest concern over the last year. The NFL has been very inconsistent in its handling of domestic abuse issues. That has led to the Rice and Peterson suspensions being lifted.

I know, but this was a slightly deflated football. Lol. So much more serious than beating your wife.

Two separate issues one addresses a criminal act reflects on the game and one that speaks to the rules and integrity of the game itself.