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[Alex.]

He did not cooperate that is how he failed to defend himself.

How did he fail to cooperate exactly?

Patriots apos Tom Brady defends himself criticizes NFL in Facebook post - LA Times

I know this is his own words, ut he explains how he did cooperate:

"To try and reconcile the record and fully cooperate with the investigation after I was disciplined in May, we turned over detailed pages of cell phone records and all of the emails that Mr. Wells requested. We even contacted the phone company to see if there was any possible way we could retrieve any/all of the actual text messages from my old phone. In short, we exhausted every possibility to give the NFL everything we could and offered to go thru the identity for every text and phone call during the relevant time. Regardless, the NFL knows that Mr. Wells already had ALL relevant communications with Patriots personnel that either Mr. Wells saw or that I was questioned about in my appeal hearing. There is no “smoking gun” and this controversy is manufactured to distract from the fact they have zero evidence of wrongdoing."

So the guy who did got suspended cries he did no wrong. If this were not Brady would you be saying the same thing?

No.If it was another quarterback he did not worship,then he knows just as well as we do he would not be defending him like all cheatriot apologists do.if this was someone else,the cheatriot apologists would be all over this..you think they would be defending Peyton Manning if this was HIM? I dont think so.excellent point.

I don't care who the team is, it could be Wilson or Romo. Violating the CBA is wrong. If you want it written in the rules write it in, otherwise this should not be an issue.

Would you feel different if it were any other team or QB?

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

Hate you? no.

 

[Papageorgio]

So the guy who did got suspended cries he did no wrong. If this were not Brady would you be saying the same thing?

No.If it was another quarterback he did not worship,then he knows just as well as we do he would not be defending him like all cheatriot apologists do.if this was someone else,the cheatriot apologists would be all over this..you think they would be defending Peyton Manning if this was HIM? I dont think so.excellent point.

I don't care who the team is, it could be Wilson or Romo. Violating the CBA is wrong. If you want it written in the rules write it in, otherwise this should not be an issue.

Would you feel different if it were any other team or QB?

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

I'm not a Patriots fan, I rate them with Seattle and Dallas as my least liked teams.

Fair is fair however and the NFL has violated the CBA. I think Brady knew the air pressure was let out and I think it was by his direction, however there is no direct proof and they punishment is a violation of the CBA.

Rules are rules.

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

He did not cooperate that is how he failed to defend himself.

How did he fail to cooperate exactly?

Patriots apos Tom Brady defends himself criticizes NFL in Facebook post - LA Times

I know this is his own words, ut he explains how he did cooperate:

"To try and reconcile the record and fully cooperate with the investigation after I was disciplined in May, we turned over detailed pages of cell phone records and all of the emails that Mr. Wells requested. We even contacted the phone company to see if there was any possible way we could retrieve any/all of the actual text messages from my old phone. In short, we exhausted every possibility to give the NFL everything we could and offered to go thru the identity for every text and phone call during the relevant time. Regardless, the NFL knows that Mr. Wells already had ALL relevant communications with Patriots personnel that either Mr. Wells saw or that I was questioned about in my appeal hearing. There is no “smoking gun” and this controversy is manufactured to distract from the fact they have zero evidence of wrongdoing."

So the guy who did got suspended cries he did no wrong. If this were not Brady would you be saying the same thing?

No.If it was another quarterback he did not worship,then he knows just as well as we do he would not be defending him like all cheatriot apologists do.if this was someone else,the cheatriot apologists would be all over this..you think they would be defending Peyton Manning if this was HIM? I dont think so.excellent point.

I don't care who the team is, it could be Wilson or Romo. Violating the CBA is wrong. If you want it written in the rules write it in, otherwise this should not be an issue.

Would you feel different if it were any other team or QB?

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

hey sock,you cheatriot apologists crack me up to know end in your desperation ramblings with the old hate thing.thats funny you claim I hate the cheats when as i have said a million times before in the past,the chargers being my favorite team the past 20 years,i have always been an AFC guy so except for the last superbowl,the previous five times before that,i rooted for the cheats to win.

In fact i was depressed about a week the first time they lost to the giants because i wanted them to have a perfect season since i would someday want to see a perfect undefeated season sometime in my life since i was not around the year the dolphins did it in 72,not only that,i wanted to throw a party when they beat the st louis lambs team in st louis the fact i have always rooted for the team that plays them to win each week the last 20 years after they left LA but yet according to your rants and ramblings,i hate them.

better get off the crack your smoking jim.

seeing your avatar,you are obviously a boston guy who refuses to see their wrongdoing so your hopeless.

heck the way you live in denial with your ramblings and the way you grasp at straws living in a fantasyland they are not cheaters,you probably think oswald shot JFK as well i would not be surprised.

like all cheatriot apologists,you lost your credibility there claiming i hate the cheats as you did when you said there is no evidence,keep only seeing what you want to see and live in denial since that makes you sleep better at night.Its tiresome repeating the same thing over and over that myself,alex and many others have debunked that they are not cheaters and there is no evidence.

so since you just repeat the same old lies over and over again that have been countered throughout this whole thread and you wont even take the time to read them and have nothing NEW to say,im done with your ramblings.

maybe someone else will bother with you.

 

[Papageorgio]

How did he fail to cooperate exactly?

Patriots apos Tom Brady defends himself criticizes NFL in Facebook post - LA Times

I know this is his own words, ut he explains how he did cooperate:

"To try and reconcile the record and fully cooperate with the investigation after I was disciplined in May, we turned over detailed pages of cell phone records and all of the emails that Mr. Wells requested. We even contacted the phone company to see if there was any possible way we could retrieve any/all of the actual text messages from my old phone. In short, we exhausted every possibility to give the NFL everything we could and offered to go thru the identity for every text and phone call during the relevant time. Regardless, the NFL knows that Mr. Wells already had ALL relevant communications with Patriots personnel that either Mr. Wells saw or that I was questioned about in my appeal hearing. There is no “smoking gun” and this controversy is manufactured to distract from the fact they have zero evidence of wrongdoing."

So the guy who did got suspended cries he did no wrong. If this were not Brady would you be saying the same thing?

No.If it was another quarterback he did not worship,then he knows just as well as we do he would not be defending him like all cheatriot apologists do.if this was someone else,the cheatriot apologists would be all over this..you think they would be defending Peyton Manning if this was HIM? I dont think so.excellent point.

I don't care who the team is, it could be Wilson or Romo. Violating the CBA is wrong. If you want it written in the rules write it in, otherwise this should not be an issue.

Would you feel different if it were any other team or QB?

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

hey sock,you cheatriot apologists crack me up to know end in your desperation ramblings with the old hate thing.thats funny you claim I hate the cheats when as i have said a million times before in the past,the chargers being my favorite team the past 20 years,i have always been an AFC guy so except for the last superbowl,the previous five times before that,i rooted for the cheats to win.

In fact i was depressed about a week the first time they lost to the giants because i wanted them to have a perfect season since i would someday want to see a perfect undefeated season sometime in my life since i was not around the year the dolphins did it in 72,not only that,i wanted to throw a party when they beat the st louis lambs team in st louis the fact i have always rooted for the team that plays them to win each week the last 20 years after they left LA but yet according to your rants and ramblings,i hate them.

better get off the crack your smoking jim.

seeing your avatar,you are obviously a boston guy who refuses to see their wrongdoing so your hopeless.

heck the way you live in denial with your ramblings and the way you grasp at straws living in a fantasyland they are not cheaters,you probably think oswald shot JFK.

More bullshit lies from hand job, all he can do is troll.

 

[Alex.]

No.If it was another quarterback he did not worship,then he knows just as well as we do he would not be defending him like all cheatriot apologists do.if this was someone else,the cheatriot apologists would be all over this..you think they would be defending Peyton Manning if this was HIM? I dont think so.excellent point.

I don't care who the team is, it could be Wilson or Romo. Violating the CBA is wrong. If you want it written in the rules write it in, otherwise this should not be an issue.

Would you feel different if it were any other team or QB?

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

I'm not a Patriots fan, I rate them with Seattle and Dallas as my least liked teams.

Fair is fair however and the NFL has violated the CBA. I think Brady knew the air pressure was let out and I think it was by his direction, however there is no direct proof and they punishment is a violation of the CBA.

Rules are rules.

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I don't care who the team is, it could be Wilson or Romo. Violating the CBA is wrong. If you want it written in the rules write it in, otherwise this should not be an issue.

Would you feel different if it were any other team or QB?

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

I'm not a Patriots fan, I rate them with Seattle and Dallas as my least liked teams.

Fair is fair however and the NFL has violated the CBA. I think Brady knew the air pressure was let out and I think it was by his direction, however there is no direct proof and they punishment is a violation of the CBA.

Rules are rules.

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

yeah the cheatriot apologists are so butthurt their heros have been exposed its beyond pitiful.

 

[Papageorgio]

I don't care who the team is, it could be Wilson or Romo. Violating the CBA is wrong. If you want it written in the rules write it in, otherwise this should not be an issue.

Would you feel different if it were any other team or QB?

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

I'm not a Patriots fan, I rate them with Seattle and Dallas as my least liked teams.

Fair is fair however and the NFL has violated the CBA. I think Brady knew the air pressure was let out and I think it was by his direction, however there is no direct proof and they punishment is a violation of the CBA.

Rules are rules.

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

Proven wrong? Bullshit! There is no precedent for obstruction, no one has ever been suspended nor is there a penalty, fine or suspension of obstruction a violation of the CBA. There is no precedent for fining or suspending a player for tampering with equipment, it is not covered in the CBA and further no penalty is listed whatsoever for tampering with the footballs in the players CBA. Brady was not informed of the suspension for not turning over his phone, the NFL under the CBA, the NFL must inform the player of a punishment before they can impose a punishment.

Three violations that you can try however have not explained away.

The only way that this doesn't get reduced is that the Commissioner is given wide latitude as a commissioner. However the CBA has been violated. No player has been suspended or fined for what Brady has done and it is not covered under the current CBA. Also the NFL is now putting into place checks and balances for PSI, which could further the NFLPA's position.

No butt hurt Alex, nothing at stake, the whole idea that you keep bringing that up over and over tells everyone here that this bugs you a lot.

The NFL will go on and my Raiders will go 4-12 this year. Another playoff and another Super Bowl will be played, that is what I'm looking forward to. As long as the Hawks, Cowboys, Patriots and Giants don't make the Super Bowl, I'll be happy.

 

[Papageorgio]

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

I'm not a Patriots fan, I rate them with Seattle and Dallas as my least liked teams.

Fair is fair however and the NFL has violated the CBA. I think Brady knew the air pressure was let out and I think it was by his direction, however there is no direct proof and they punishment is a violation of the CBA.

Rules are rules.

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

yeah the cheatriot apologists are so butthurt their heros have been exposed its beyond pitiful.

That you think there is cheating after you claimed the NFL is all set up makes you look like a board dumbshit hand job. Thanks for proving your stupidity.

 

[Hawkeye2j]

Please send me your cellphones.You have to promise not to delete anything. Just send them, and by the way — I'm going to cherry-pick the most embarrassing things I can find, and twist out of context, and print them on the front page.No? You won't? Frankly, I don't blame you.Obviously, Brady felt the same — his lawyer early on said the NFL would never get the phone, nor was there a legal obligation to hand it over.

 

[Alex.]

Of course they wouldn't. They hate us cause they ain't us

I'm not a Patriots fan, I rate them with Seattle and Dallas as my least liked teams.

Fair is fair however and the NFL has violated the CBA. I think Brady knew the air pressure was let out and I think it was by his direction, however there is no direct proof and they punishment is a violation of the CBA.

Rules are rules.

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

Proven wrong? Bullshit! There is no precedent for obstruction, no one has ever been suspended nor is there a penalty, fine or suspension of obstruction a violation of the CBA. There is no precedent for fining or suspending a player for tampering with equipment, it is not covered in the CBA and further no penalty is listed whatsoever for tampering with the footballs in the players CBA. Brady was not informed of the suspension for not turning over his phone, the NFL under the CBA, the NFL must inform the player of a punishment before they can impose a punishment.

Three violations that you can try however have not explained away.

The only way that this doesn't get reduced is that the Commissioner is given wide latitude as a commissioner. However the CBA has been violated. No player has been suspended or fined for what Brady has done and it is not covered under the current CBA. Also the NFL is now putting into place checks and balances for PSI, which could further the NFLPA's position.

No butt hurt Alex, nothing at stake, the whole idea that you keep bringing that up over and over tells everyone here that this bugs you a lot.

The NFL will go on and my Raiders will go 4-12 this year. Another playoff and another Super Bowl will be played, that is what I'm looking forward to. As long as the Hawks, Cowboys, Patriots and Giants don't make the Super Bowl, I'll be happy.

You are arguing in a vacuum. You have zero basis for making your claims.


Yep I would say butt hurt.

 

[Papageorgio]

I'm not a Patriots fan, I rate them with Seattle and Dallas as my least liked teams.

Fair is fair however and the NFL has violated the CBA. I think Brady knew the air pressure was let out and I think it was by his direction, however there is no direct proof and they punishment is a violation of the CBA.

Rules are rules.

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

Proven wrong? Bullshit! There is no precedent for obstruction, no one has ever been suspended nor is there a penalty, fine or suspension of obstruction a violation of the CBA. There is no precedent for fining or suspending a player for tampering with equipment, it is not covered in the CBA and further no penalty is listed whatsoever for tampering with the footballs in the players CBA. Brady was not informed of the suspension for not turning over his phone, the NFL under the CBA, the NFL must inform the player of a punishment before they can impose a punishment.

Three violations that you can try however have not explained away.

The only way that this doesn't get reduced is that the Commissioner is given wide latitude as a commissioner. However the CBA has been violated. No player has been suspended or fined for what Brady has done and it is not covered under the current CBA. Also the NFL is now putting into place checks and balances for PSI, which could further the NFLPA's position.

No butt hurt Alex, nothing at stake, the whole idea that you keep bringing that up over and over tells everyone here that this bugs you a lot.

The NFL will go on and my Raiders will go 4-12 this year. Another playoff and another Super Bowl will be played, that is what I'm looking forward to. As long as the Hawks, Cowboys, Patriots and Giants don't make the Super Bowl, I'll be happy.

You are arguing in a vacuum. You have zero basis for making your claims.


Yep I would say butt hurt.

Funny how that is how the NFLPA is going to argue. But what the hell an asshole like yourself knows all. Again, your obsession over butt hurt tells us all you have nothing, you can't refute, you can't prove. You have nothing. Nice job.

 

[Alex.]

What rule(s) are you referring to?

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

Proven wrong? Bullshit! There is no precedent for obstruction, no one has ever been suspended nor is there a penalty, fine or suspension of obstruction a violation of the CBA. There is no precedent for fining or suspending a player for tampering with equipment, it is not covered in the CBA and further no penalty is listed whatsoever for tampering with the footballs in the players CBA. Brady was not informed of the suspension for not turning over his phone, the NFL under the CBA, the NFL must inform the player of a punishment before they can impose a punishment.

Three violations that you can try however have not explained away.

The only way that this doesn't get reduced is that the Commissioner is given wide latitude as a commissioner. However the CBA has been violated. No player has been suspended or fined for what Brady has done and it is not covered under the current CBA. Also the NFL is now putting into place checks and balances for PSI, which could further the NFLPA's position.

No butt hurt Alex, nothing at stake, the whole idea that you keep bringing that up over and over tells everyone here that this bugs you a lot.

The NFL will go on and my Raiders will go 4-12 this year. Another playoff and another Super Bowl will be played, that is what I'm looking forward to. As long as the Hawks, Cowboys, Patriots and Giants don't make the Super Bowl, I'll be happy.

You are arguing in a vacuum. You have zero basis for making your claims.


Yep I would say butt hurt.

Funny how that is how the NFLPA is going to argue. But what the hell an asshole like yourself knows all. Again, your obsession over butt hurt tells us all you have nothing, you can't refute, you can't prove. You have nothing. Nice job.

You can keep calling me names and look like a fool or cite some authority and we can discuss this. So far you have nothing to validate your claims.

 

[Papageorgio]

I have posted the CBA violations they were agreed to by the players and the NFL agreed to them. You can find in this thread. I don't need to repeat it.

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

Proven wrong? Bullshit! There is no precedent for obstruction, no one has ever been suspended nor is there a penalty, fine or suspension of obstruction a violation of the CBA. There is no precedent for fining or suspending a player for tampering with equipment, it is not covered in the CBA and further no penalty is listed whatsoever for tampering with the footballs in the players CBA. Brady was not informed of the suspension for not turning over his phone, the NFL under the CBA, the NFL must inform the player of a punishment before they can impose a punishment.

Three violations that you can try however have not explained away.

The only way that this doesn't get reduced is that the Commissioner is given wide latitude as a commissioner. However the CBA has been violated. No player has been suspended or fined for what Brady has done and it is not covered under the current CBA. Also the NFL is now putting into place checks and balances for PSI, which could further the NFLPA's position.

No butt hurt Alex, nothing at stake, the whole idea that you keep bringing that up over and over tells everyone here that this bugs you a lot.

The NFL will go on and my Raiders will go 4-12 this year. Another playoff and another Super Bowl will be played, that is what I'm looking forward to. As long as the Hawks, Cowboys, Patriots and Giants don't make the Super Bowl, I'll be happy.

You are arguing in a vacuum. You have zero basis for making your claims.


Yep I would say butt hurt.

Funny how that is how the NFLPA is going to argue. But what the hell an asshole like yourself knows all. Again, your obsession over butt hurt tells us all you have nothing, you can't refute, you can't prove. You have nothing. Nice job.

You can keep calling me names and look like a fool or cite some authority and we can discuss this. So far you have nothing to validate your claims.

Alex, I have posted links. You can google and see what I am saying is correct,. It's up to you I don't really care. If you want to discuss it fine, if you want to keep up with the playing dumb, fine.

I have done a lot of reading and watching the sports shows. I have listened to players, former team presidents, coaches and on and on. Who will win, I have no clue. Both have cases, however the CBA was indeed violated. Like it or not.

Here you go another link.

NFLPA - NFLPA Statement on Tom Brady s Four-Game Suspension

 

[Alex.]

"Tom Brady doesn’t care. The New England Patriots don’t care.

Brady may ultimately be remembered as football’s greatest quarterback ever. But he will also be remembered as a whiner. He’s the spoiled jerk who struck out at Wiffle ball during sixth-grade recess but refused to give the next kid the bat. In trying to protect his reputation, Brady is making himself look worse. Like a crying baby.

I’d hate to sit next to Brady on an airplane. All that caterwauling would ruin your trip.

Brady says there’s no evidence. Sure, not anymore. You destroyed your cell phone.

But there’s still evidence: That equipment flunky known as the “Deflator.” All those text messages. The PSI levels of the footballs used in the AFC Championship Game.

Deny, deny, deny. Patriots owner Robert Kraft thought he made a deal for Brady by accepting punishment for his team. You can even plea-bargain in sports.

Kraft’s notion that the NFL is trying to smear Brady is ludicrous. Brady is (was) football’s most popular player. What’s accomplished by railroading Brady? Who benefits by that conspiracy? Certainly not the NFL or Commissioner Roger Goodell."

Madden Ben Roethlisberger unlike Tom Brady put team first when suspended - Timesonline.com Mark Madden

The author really put this whole situation in a nutshell. Kraft did what was good for the NFL, he has no reason to apologize for anything many others before him put the good of the NFL before themselves they are the true leaders and the reason why we have this sport to enjoy.

No matter what Brady will always be remembered for being a selfish crybaby. He dug himself in deep with his self serving nonsense no court in this world can rehabilitate the image that Brady has worked so hard to destroy.

 

[Alex.]

You mean those? Your position was proven to be without merit yet you foist the same stuff here and expect people to agree with you.

Your butt-hurt is so obvious.

Proven wrong? Bullshit! There is no precedent for obstruction, no one has ever been suspended nor is there a penalty, fine or suspension of obstruction a violation of the CBA. There is no precedent for fining or suspending a player for tampering with equipment, it is not covered in the CBA and further no penalty is listed whatsoever for tampering with the footballs in the players CBA. Brady was not informed of the suspension for not turning over his phone, the NFL under the CBA, the NFL must inform the player of a punishment before they can impose a punishment.

Three violations that you can try however have not explained away.

The only way that this doesn't get reduced is that the Commissioner is given wide latitude as a commissioner. However the CBA has been violated. No player has been suspended or fined for what Brady has done and it is not covered under the current CBA. Also the NFL is now putting into place checks and balances for PSI, which could further the NFLPA's position.

No butt hurt Alex, nothing at stake, the whole idea that you keep bringing that up over and over tells everyone here that this bugs you a lot.

The NFL will go on and my Raiders will go 4-12 this year. Another playoff and another Super Bowl will be played, that is what I'm looking forward to. As long as the Hawks, Cowboys, Patriots and Giants don't make the Super Bowl, I'll be happy.

You are arguing in a vacuum. You have zero basis for making your claims.


Yep I would say butt hurt.

Funny how that is how the NFLPA is going to argue. But what the hell an asshole like yourself knows all. Again, your obsession over butt hurt tells us all you have nothing, you can't refute, you can't prove. You have nothing. Nice job.

You can keep calling me names and look like a fool or cite some authority and we can discuss this. So far you have nothing to validate your claims.

Alex, I have posted links. You can google and see what I am saying is correct,. It's up to you I don't really care. If you want to discuss it fine, if you want to keep up with the playing dumb, fine.

I have done a lot of reading and watching the sports shows. I have listened to players, former team presidents, coaches and on and on. Who will win, I have no clue. Both have cases, however the CBA was indeed violated. Like it or not.

Here you go another link.

NFLPA - NFLPA Statement on Tom Brady s Four-Game Suspension

You still have not established the CBA was violated.

 

[Papageorgio]

Proven wrong? Bullshit! There is no precedent for obstruction, no one has ever been suspended nor is there a penalty, fine or suspension of obstruction a violation of the CBA. There is no precedent for fining or suspending a player for tampering with equipment, it is not covered in the CBA and further no penalty is listed whatsoever for tampering with the footballs in the players CBA. Brady was not informed of the suspension for not turning over his phone, the NFL under the CBA, the NFL must inform the player of a punishment before they can impose a punishment.

Three violations that you can try however have not explained away.

The only way that this doesn't get reduced is that the Commissioner is given wide latitude as a commissioner. However the CBA has been violated. No player has been suspended or fined for what Brady has done and it is not covered under the current CBA. Also the NFL is now putting into place checks and balances for PSI, which could further the NFLPA's position.

No butt hurt Alex, nothing at stake, the whole idea that you keep bringing that up over and over tells everyone here that this bugs you a lot.

The NFL will go on and my Raiders will go 4-12 this year. Another playoff and another Super Bowl will be played, that is what I'm looking forward to. As long as the Hawks, Cowboys, Patriots and Giants don't make the Super Bowl, I'll be happy.

You are arguing in a vacuum. You have zero basis for making your claims.


Yep I would say butt hurt.

Funny how that is how the NFLPA is going to argue. But what the hell an asshole like yourself knows all. Again, your obsession over butt hurt tells us all you have nothing, you can't refute, you can't prove. You have nothing. Nice job.

You can keep calling me names and look like a fool or cite some authority and we can discuss this. So far you have nothing to validate your claims.

Alex, I have posted links. You can google and see what I am saying is correct,. It's up to you I don't really care. If you want to discuss it fine, if you want to keep up with the playing dumb, fine.

I have done a lot of reading and watching the sports shows. I have listened to players, former team presidents, coaches and on and on. Who will win, I have no clue. Both have cases, however the CBA was indeed violated. Like it or not.

Here you go another link.

NFLPA - NFLPA Statement on Tom Brady s Four-Game Suspension

You still have not established the CBA was violated.

I stated the reasons why I think it was violated and you have the right to disagree. Which you have. Your opinion is no better than mine at this point.

 

[ChrisL]

"NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady's Deflate-Gate Suspension"

The NFL on Tuesday upheld its four-game suspension of Tom Brady, the star quarterback of the New England Patriots — and said he had his phone destroyed just before he met with Deflate-Gate investigators.

"Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs," the NFL said in announcing the ruling."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady s Deflate-Gate Suspension - NBC News



Tom Brady is nothing but a cheater and a liar.

OldStyle Papageorgio & ChrisL, what say you?

I just can't wait until Brady starts playing and we kick all your all arses. Lol.

 

[Papageorgio]

"NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady's Deflate-Gate Suspension"

The NFL on Tuesday upheld its four-game suspension of Tom Brady, the star quarterback of the New England Patriots — and said he had his phone destroyed just before he met with Deflate-Gate investigators.

"Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs," the NFL said in announcing the ruling."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady s Deflate-Gate Suspension - NBC News



Tom Brady is nothing but a cheater and a liar.

OldStyle Papageorgio & ChrisL, what say you?

I just can't wait until Brady starts playing and we kick all your all arses. Lol.

I hope they lose, I don't want them back in the Super Bowl, I am not a New England fan at all.

 

[ChrisL]

"NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady's Deflate-Gate Suspension"

The NFL on Tuesday upheld its four-game suspension of Tom Brady, the star quarterback of the New England Patriots — and said he had his phone destroyed just before he met with Deflate-Gate investigators.

"Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs," the NFL said in announcing the ruling."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady s Deflate-Gate Suspension - NBC News



Tom Brady is nothing but a cheater and a liar.

OldStyle Papageorgio & ChrisL, what say you?

I just can't wait until Brady starts playing and we kick all your all arses. Lol.

I hope they lose, I don't want them back in the Super Bowl, I am not a New England fan at all.

It's going to be an interesting year!

 

[Papageorgio]

"NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady's Deflate-Gate Suspension"

The NFL on Tuesday upheld its four-game suspension of Tom Brady, the star quarterback of the New England Patriots — and said he had his phone destroyed just before he met with Deflate-Gate investigators.

"Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs," the NFL said in announcing the ruling."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Upholds Tom Brady s Deflate-Gate Suspension - NBC News



Tom Brady is nothing but a cheater and a liar.

OldStyle Papageorgio & ChrisL, what say you?

I just can't wait until Brady starts playing and we kick all your all arses. Lol.

I hope they lose, I don't want them back in the Super Bowl, I am not a New England fan at all.

It's going to be an interesting year!

The NFL is always interesting and unless it is my team, I don't like dynasties.